No Frills Newbie Mafia--Game OVER!

[Myndrunner]

Luthine, what is your opinion on all of this?  Right now, we have a three way tie with two folks not even voting yet.  Although I remain convinced that JLM is Mafia, I am considering changing my vote......

 

....why shouldn't I join Moggy and GV's vote for you?

[loki redfern]

um yes she has actually been laying pretty low, but what JML said is right, this is basically the endgame i think, and if we get this wrong we have to rely on the healer protecting the right person tonight

 

um im going to [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow], so i can take a step back, we really need to get this right

[Myndrunner]

Hmmm.....interesting.  There is one more piece of evidence that confirms to me that JLM is Mafia.....but I can't lynch her all by my onesy, now can I?  That little nugget of info shall have to wait until it be her turn to walk the gallows.....but I must give her a sigh of relief now....

 

[glow=red,2,300]UNVOTE[/glow]

 

So, Loki.....why do you suppose GV and Moggy have this vendetta against Luthine?  JLM, how do you feel about popping off Luthine this round, since she seems to have a target on her head?

 

Luthine, why should we lynch someone besides you today?

[JenLenaMom]

I would definitely like to hear what she has to say.  Has she even been on today?  Right now I don't see enough reason to change my vote.  someone convince me this isn't just random. 

[Myndrunner]

What about you, Nae-Nae?  Why are you sticking with Loki?  Although his logic may appear myndless at first, let us step back and look at the facts.....if he is mafia, he is one of three and would have bandwagoned by now....but he hasn't. 

 

So, Nae....why Loki?

[loki redfern]

so now its basically between me and luthine? id really rather not have to vote her out of self presevation, um so , could the really luthine please stand up, and er say something

 

and what made you think more of Jmum again gogo?

 

gahhhhhhh *goes crazy from the million pm hes sending*

*already was crazy so nobody notices*

[Myndrunner]

JL-Mamma reeks of Mafia for the following reasons:

 

1) She was already determined who to go after next without waiting to see if she was even going to wake up the next day.....indicating that she already knew she would last the night because she be Mafia. 

 

2) Everyone should know my role by now if they have been paying attention, and JLM may be mafia, but she is no slouch....at least, not here.  It would be smarter to NIGHT KILL me instead of lynching me, so when she figured out what my role is, she backed off me and decided to go after Loki instead....leaving me open for a night kill.  I just hope the healer, whoever he is, chooses me tonight to protect!  Trying to lead a lynch against me would only incriminate her more.

 

3) Her replies to my accusations would have been taken less seriously if she wasn't Mafia.  She quickly tried to rationalize why she recanted her vote on me and went after Loki; and she didn't give a convincing argument for why she was sure she would survive the night.  The lady doth protest too much.

 

So, looking back on the patterns, It also begins to shine some light on who her two cohorts are.

 

Which is why we all need to hear from Luthine.......and why we shouldn't vote her?

 

 

[Loreina]

From Mynd:

2) Everyone should know my role by now if they have been paying attention, and JLM may be mafia, but she is no slouch....at least, not here.  It would be smarter to NIGHT KILL me instead of lynching me, so when she figured out what my role is, she backed off me and decided to go after Loki instead....leaving me open for a night kill.  I just hope the healer, whoever he is, chooses me tonight to protect!  Trying to lead a lynch against me would only incriminate her more.

 

???  The only innocent role left is Healer, so what the heck is this supposed to mean? The Finder is dead! It wouldn't be smarter to "NIGHT KILL" you, because usually the Healer protects himself unless and until the Finder reveals. And there's no way you could have known that Clim was the Finder.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Mynd[/glow] I think you're Mafia.

 

[Luthine]

Luthine, why should we lynch someone besides you today?

Errm and I ask you, why do you want to lynch me?

Apart from resounding inactivity on my behalf (and for that, I plead guilty as charged, my stupid finals kinda got in the way) I don't see against what I'd have to defend myself. (I'm not gonna repeat what's already been said about the Dae NK since we could wifom the crap out of it and that would lead nowhere)

 

From what I've (quickly) read, I'd say either JLM or Mynd is mafia but others have made their fair share of confusing posts >_>

I'll comeback tomorrow with (hopefully) useful stuff and arguments to back up my theories, right now my bed awaits :P

 

When's the deadline?

 

 

[Myndrunner]

From Mynd:

2) Everyone should know my role by now if they have been paying attention, and JLM may be mafia, but she is no slouch....at least, not here.  It would be smarter to NIGHT KILL me instead of lynching me, so when she figured out what my role is, she backed off me and decided to go after Loki instead....leaving me open for a night kill.  I just hope the healer, whoever he is, chooses me tonight to protect!  Trying to lead a lynch against me would only incriminate her more.

 

???  The only innocent role left is Healer, so what the heck is this supposed to mean? The Finder is dead! It wouldn't be smarter to "NIGHT KILL" you, because usually the Healer protects himself unless and until the Finder reveals. And there's no way you could have known that Clim was the Finder.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Mynd[/glow] I think you're Mafia.

 

 

Um.....didn't FDM say he was the finder when they announced him DEAD?!?  I'll chalk up your vote for me as being tired...I was looking for a reason NOT to vote for you and you replied by VOTING ME?  You are either Mafia or.....well, lets just say you are Mafia.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Luthine[/glow]

[JenLenaMom]

Mynd are you claiming your the hearler?  if so just come out and say it, otherwise it just looks fishy :-\

 

and that was Lorei that voted for you not Luthine.

[Moghedian]

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow] until Mynd responds. There are a lot of people who have been acting strangely though... :-\

[Myndrunner]

Now, I KNOW JLM is Mafia....tis not cricket to blatantly admit your role to the public....I shall not grant you THAT satisfaction....but nice try.  Now, what did I do with my little black medical bag?  Ah yes, tis over here....*walks over to get it*

 

[glow=red,2,300]

UNVOTE[/glow]  Apologies my dear Luthine, I mis-read who was choosing me....hey, both of you have L's in your names anyway....*shrugs*

 

So the soup thickens....er, the plot....Moggy, let's hear your thoughts....who are you thinking is what here? 

 

[Loreina]

From Mynd:

I just hope the healer, whoever he is, chooses me tonight to protect!

 

That's exactly what I'm talking about! He's dropping hints all over the place about being roled, but Far announced that Clim was the Finder when he was NK'd. The only innocent role left is Healer. Far named the game "No Frills", and she didn't mention any other roles. And here he is asking the Healer to protect him. If he's an innocent, he should stop confusing the rest of us innocents. We need a Mafia lynch or the game is over.

 

Not only that, but there's no logic in that item #2. If he were Healer, getting us to lynch him would be the only way to get rid of him, because the Healer always heals himself unless and until the Finder reveals. In this case, there's simply no way he could have known Clim was the Finder at that time. So if he were Healer, he'd be protecting himself from being NK'd. The Mafia would suspect that sort of action and would not even consider wasting a Night Kill on someone they thought was the Healer.

 

And, at this point, the Healer could openly declare his role, not hint at it, because the Finder's dead. Who's left to protect? Just roleless innocents, of which the Healer is one. If he were innocent, why would he make himself look so guilty? No logic to it, unless it's a Mafia trick.

[Naeann]

Because I don't trust Loki as far as I can throw him.  I think He and Mynd are acting the most fishy.  I'm trying to determine who else smells off.  *sniffs everyone*

[Moghedian]

*Smells off*

*Removes the piece of mouldy cheddar that was under her coat*

Better?  ;)

 

 

Everyone think about others in the game and what they have been doing that is suspicious. For this reason I'm going to vote [glow=red,2,300]Mynd[/glow] for his constant vote-changing, statements about who is guilty with no real evidence and because he drugged Loreina last night. (The last one was a joke  ;))

 

Loki (2): Naeann, JLM

Luthine (1): Graendal’s Fav,

Mynd(2): Loreina, Moghedian

 

Not voting: Loki, Mynd, Luthine

[JenLenaMom]

well at this point, Mog I think we need to get behind one person, if we can get a majority we can end this day quicker and give the mafia less time to wiggle off the hook, uh out of the noose.  While I agree Mynd is likely mafia, I still feel loki is most likely at this point.  We can get Mynd tomorrow.

[Myndrunner]

Acting fishy? Have you READ anything I wrote, or are you just content to ride the bandwagon?

 

I'm figuring this thing out for us.  Trust me, voting me is definitely hazardous to your health. We want a mafia kill this time...and lynching me would be as bad as lynching the Healer. 

 

Loki....I have it on good authority that you are innocent....so since we are getting picked on here, let's go for the likely kill.  I am VERY sure that JLM is mafia....so I'm going back to JLM.

[glow=red,2,300]

JenLenaMom[/glow]

[Moghedian]

Loki (2): Naeann, JLM

Luthine (1): Graendal's Fav,

Mynd(2): Loreina, Moghedian

JLM (1): Mynd

 

Not voting: Loki, Luthine

 

(Just thought I'd keep this updated)  ;)

 

JLM, you seem very determined that we should vote Loki rather than Mynd going so far as to say

We can get Mynd tomorrow.

You said this in full knowledge that if we fail in getting a mafia today and the mafia NK successfully tonight we lose. This furthers my suspicions about Mynd and now you. However if you can give me a decent case against Loki I will reconsider.

 

 

[Naeann]

Mynd.. what good authority do you have that Loki is innocent?  You aren't the finder... so unless you are mafia.. you have no way of knowing Loki's role.

 

You keep talking heath and healer.  Spit it out if you're the healer or your gonna get your butt lynched for being fishy.  Im not riding a bandwagon.. I havent changed my vote in case you weren't paying attention hun.

 

Since we have no finder for the healer to protect it won't hurt anyone to reveal and just keep protecting yourself.

[Myndrunner]

FINE!!! FINE!!!! I'm the BLOODY HEALER!!!! *rubs vics vapo rub all over his body* and I am protecting myself from all of you knucklehead Mafia!!!! Every night, I am healing myself....so don't even try it! 

[Moghedian]

Mynd now that you've said that I would suggest that you heal someone else tonight because I assume the mafia would not try to NK you.

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow]

 

Loki (2): Naeann, JLM

Luthine (1): Graendal's Fav,

Mynd(1): Loreina

JLM (1): Mynd

 

Not voting: Loki, Luthine, Moghedian

[Myndrunner]

No way!! They are gunning for me now....got a big KILL ME sign on my back now!!! I'm going into hiding now....im GHOST! I'm GONE!!! It's game over man!  GAME OVER!!!  *rubs more Vics all over his body*

 

We should lynch JLM....she's MAFIA!

[Loreina]

If you want us to vote for JLM now, you are going to have to do a lot better than your last posted reasons, cause they didn't make any sense. You still smell like Mafia to me. Innocents, and Healers especially, don't get other innocents lynched the way you got Verbal lynched. You kept saying "I KNOW" this and "I KNOW" that, making some people think you might be the Finder. Then after you're proven wrong, you try to switch over to the Healer role. But you're still going "I KNOW" etc.  You don't "KNOW" anything, (unless you're Mafia), and the reasoning you use has holes you could drive a truck through. *shakes head*

I want to know who this "good authority" is who told you Loki is innocent. We aren't supposed to be communicating with anyone about this game outside of this thread.  I don't know if you are Mafia or not. But you are definitely acting like Mafia.

 

Moggy, who would you suggest he heal? He doesn't know who's who. He might pick one of the Mafia, leaving himself open to NK for no reason. *shrugs* Not a good idea, not that it matters much, because if we don't lynch a Mafia, who gets NK'd will be irrelevant.

 

Now all we need is for another Mafia to counterclaim Healer, and the Mafia trick will be complete. The odds of our getting a Mafia lynch are not good.

 

Day will end Wednesday at 9:30pm EDT. 

With 8 players, it takes 5 to lynch. All the Mafia are still alive (and there are at least three of them in most games of 12).

Loki (2): Naeann, JLM

Luthine (1): Graendal's Fav,

Mynd(1): Loreina

JLM (1): Mynd

 

Not voting: Loki, Luthine, Moghedian

 

*sighs* I have to do some more digging before I unvote. *mutters* I still say he's Mafia.

 

 

[Graendals favourite]

*muses*

At this critical juncture, we have more information now, but it is all mixed up. How to see order within disorder? Is there a pattern?

 

I think I will unvote later, but I am not sure whom I would vote in her stead. On the other hand, I do think some of the mafia must have hidden in inactivity, or there would be more signs.