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Guest Far Dareis Mai

Can I be one of those people who sits on the fence until the winner is clearly seen, and then toss my vote in on the winning side? It makes life just so much more convenient... ;)

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*chuckle* Some people do get rather worked up about the little tomato.

 

Here's the situation... there are two classifications for the tomato: botanical, and culinary.

 

Per the scientific botanical definition of fruit, a tomato is one: "the ripened ovary of a flower together with any accessory parts associated with it", (CRC Dictionary of Agricultural Sciences) [ Link ]

 

There is no scientific botanical definition of "vegetable". There is, however, a culinary (having to do with cooking) definition: any plant whose fruit, seeds, roots, tubers, bulbs, stems, leaves, or flower parts are used as food, as the tomato, bean, beet, potato, onion, asparagus, spinach, or cauliflower (Dictionary.com) [ Link ]. The etymology noted about halfway down the entry there notes its origin as "1582, originally any plant, from vegetable (adj.); specific sense of "plant cultivated for food, edible herb or root" is first recorded 1767."

 

Note that the definition of vegetable also covers fruits! They are not mutually exclusive! The Wikipedia entry for vegetable [ Link ] describes the issue well from the start:

 

Vegetable generally refers to an edible part of a plant. The definition is traditional rather than scientific and is somewhat arbitrary and subjective. All parts of herbaceous plants eaten as food by humans, whole or in part, are normally considered vegetables. Mushrooms, though belonging to the biological kingdom Fungi, are also commonly considered vegetables. In general, vegetables are thought of as being savory, and not sweet, although there are many exceptions. Nuts, grains, herbs, spices and culinary fruits are normally not considered vegetables.

 

Since "vegetable" is not a botanical term, there is no contradiction in referring to a plant part as a fruit while also being considered a vegetable. Given this general rule of thumb, vegetables can also include leaves (lettuce), stems (asparagus), roots (carrots), flowers (broccoli), bulbs (garlic), seeds (peas and beans) and botanical fruits such as cucumbers, squash, pumpkins, and capsicums (bell peppers). Botanically, fruits are reproductive organs (ripened ovaries containing one or many seeds), while vegetables are vegetative organs which sustain the plant.

 

The question "is it a fruit, or is it a vegetable?" has even found its way into the United States Supreme Court, which ruled unanimously in Nix v. Hedden, 1893, that a tomato is a vegetable for the purposes of 1883 Tariff Act, although botanically, a tomato is a fruit.

 

Got it now? Scientifically, it's a fruit, because scientifically, there is no such thing as a vegetable!

 

However, traditionally, and culinarily, if it's sweet, it's a fruit, and if it's not sweet, it's a vegetable.

 

Most accurate assessment: it's both, because both terms are far too general and widely defined to be mutually exclusive.

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