[GAME OVER - TOWN WINS] Dragon and Swift

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

1 hour ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

I think Leelou's death was the Mafia

I think it is a bit sus that Peace was all over Leelou, posting his "references" for later when he had admonished Gud for not sending them to herself in a PM. Adding in the whole "distancing" nonsense, I would suggest that this is an attempt of Peace to pretend someone is trying to frame him while also getting rid of someone that wasn't impressed with him. Of course, it could be that he is being framed but I don't buy that for a second.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Teph (7) -  Ithi, berf, Heavy, Sin, Lee, Shad, Turin

Heavy (5) - dice, Tarthe/Digs, Teph, Gud, peace,

 

So, Darthe, Gud and Peace are looking suspicious. Gud has a claim that is not CCd. Shad, Turin not looking great. Obviously no one else is cleared but feel good about Leelou and Ithi. No wait, Shad was voting Berf, that makes a difference. And Turin on Sinister. Lee was first on Teph but then had a moment. Sinister far enough down the line to look ok, I think. Maybe?

 

Gud and Ithi saying they sent their roles to Dice. Thanks for that based on the wagonomics but second vote is always mafia? I could get behind that. 

 

Gud claimed I was "pushy" because I was giving her some really good ingame advice for either alignment. Defended Teph because she knows how he thinks. Alrighty. Anyone want to CC her, now would be a good time, Darthe and Peace not included.

 

Darthe and Peace need to go. That may solve the game but hopefully we'll find out on the way. 

 

Oh and if someone has a gun, shoot Ed. Thanks.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Anyone have any thoughts on the Siren? Something is troubling me, but not sure I can quite get my head around it. But I can sort of feel the edges of something ominous, if you know what I mean.

 

Anyway, I'm off to bed to think about it. Sirens and feeling things, I mean. 

[Gudrean]

41 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

 

So, Darthe, Gud and Peace are looking suspicious. Gud has a claim that is not CCd. Shad, Turin not looking great.

 

Gud claimed I was "pushy" because I was giving her some really good ingame advice for either alignment. Defended Teph because she knows how he thinks. Alrighty. Anyone want to CC her, now would be a good time, Darthe and Peace not included.

 

 

 

  On 5/30/2025 at 10:40 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

It would be nice if Gud came out of her cave of secrets and voted too.

 

With reasons.

 

And Eddie...  lmao

I am currently trying to catch up, on pg 30. Been out food shopping all morning. I don't know why everyone thinks I'm in a cave or whatever. Just wasn't ready to die for what I knew yet. Here's my secrets: I viewed Darth N0, said he was town and then a 🦆 killed him!

Passed the parcel and here we are. Now I'm gonna get back to reading. 😋

 

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 7:55 PM, dicetosser1 said:

Gud   Scum. Agree with PEace that stowing her thoughts the way she did seems like trying to get people to jump on it but with a built in "i didnt mean them to do that built in"  She feels like she is purposefully aiming at ithi.

fwiw I think Ithi is town 

How Rude! You are definitely not getting another xmas card this year!

 

 

DICE, COP AND DOC, HAS BEEN KILLED. 

 

 

This is about as CC'd as it gets

[berf]

I'll be able to dedicate some time to this tonight.

 

I feel good about the Teph lynch, SD still seems sus but that might be old data/misinterpreted vibes. 

 

Turin vs SD has me thinking Turin town SD mafia which tracks with the vibes I've gotten til this point. But that's an interesting and good pair to pit against each other - That is of course if Darthe's claim is to be believed, which, it probably can. That slot needs attention from myself before I'm ready to lean either way, but very bold mafia moves if so.

 

Leelou and dice - leelou was the NK? We don't have like flavour confirmation or anything RE mafia NKs vs random other murders?

 

Dice wasn't looking great but dying holding cop and doc is... Something. 

 

And someone (SD?) asked me about dice claiming he caught a slip from someone and I have to revisit that. 

 

Until tonight xo

[ed2funy]

6 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

He's ALIVE!

 

FLASH! OOOOH-OOOOW! HE'LL SAVE EVERYONE OF US!

lol sorry 

[ed2funy]

6 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

And talking of that, @ed2funy, we need to have a talk.

Hiiiii. 

[ed2funy]

6 hours ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Welcome back Heavy.

 

I asked DPR about what happens to parcels if you die. He said if you've already passed them on, then they don't get lost when you die. 

 

I think Dice tried to interact with whoever kills you if you interact with them. I can't remember the name of the role.

 

I think Leelou's death was the Mafia

 

I was the Traffic Anaylist last night and 9 actions were used. Thank you all for listening to me and not sending me anything. I appreciate it 🙂

I swear I saw you tease it before. And didn’t someone just talk about siren. 
is that the right role? 

[ed2funy]

3 hours ago, Gudrean said:

 

  On 5/30/2025 at 10:40 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

It would be nice if Gud came out of her cave of secrets and voted too.

 

With reasons.

 

And Eddie...  lmao

I am currently trying to catch up, on pg 30. Been out food shopping all morning. I don't know why everyone thinks I'm in a cave or whatever. Just wasn't ready to die for what I knew yet. Here's my secrets: I viewed Darth N0, said he was town and then a 🦆 killed him!

Passed the parcel and here we are. Now I'm gonna get back to reading. 😋

 

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 7:55 PM, dicetosser1 said:

Gud   Scum. Agree with PEace that stowing her thoughts the way she did seems like trying to get people to jump on it but with a built in "i didnt mean them to do that built in"  She feels like she is purposefully aiming at ithi.

fwiw I think Ithi is town 

How Rude! You are definitely not getting another xmas card this year!

 

 

DICE, COP AND DOC, HAS BEEN KILLED. 

 

 

This is about as CC'd as it gets

this is a mess of a quote but just at the end… how is that a CC when some roles pass on? 

[Darthe]

6 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Well, I am pretty sus about Turin's paper thin case on me yesterday, almost as sus as I am about Darthe's flyby "I've not read the thread" vote on me that made me a competing train. 

 

So not sure I believe Darthe at all. But still the gladiatorial games would be fun. No wait, that is nude mud wrestling. Same difference I suppose.

This is a wolf post.  

This is a wolf.  

[Darthe]

5 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

@Darthe and I just saw this on the first page.

Yeah, I'm confirmed to have used it. Whether you think that makes me town or not is up to you all.  

Unless someone wants to make the argument that I claimed a role the same time it was used on a whim?

[Darthe]

3 hours ago, Gudrean said:

 

  On 5/30/2025 at 10:40 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

It would be nice if Gud came out of her cave of secrets and voted too.

 

With reasons.

 

And Eddie...  lmao

I am currently trying to catch up, on pg 30. Been out food shopping all morning. I don't know why everyone thinks I'm in a cave or whatever. Just wasn't ready to die for what I knew yet. Here's my secrets: I viewed Darth N0, said he was town and then a 🦆 killed him!

Passed the parcel and here we are. Now I'm gonna get back to reading. 😋

 

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 7:55 PM, dicetosser1 said:

Gud   Scum. Agree with PEace that stowing her thoughts the way she did seems like trying to get people to jump on it but with a built in "i didnt mean them to do that built in"  She feels like she is purposefully aiming at ithi.

fwiw I think Ithi is town 

How Rude! You are definitely not getting another xmas card this year!

 

 

DICE, COP AND DOC, HAS BEEN KILLED. 

 

 

This is about as CC'd as it gets

Please stop calling things rude and memeing your way through this game.  It's incredibly tedious to parse out and doesn't help town.

[Darthe]

7 hours ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Welcome back Heavy.

 

I asked DPR about what happens to parcels if you die. He said if you've already passed them on, then they don't get lost when you die. 

 

I think Dice tried to interact with whoever kills you if you interact with them. I can't remember the name of the role.

 

I think Leelou's death was the Mafia

 

I was the Traffic Anaylist last night and 9 actions were used. Thank you all for listening to me and not sending me anything. I appreciate it 🙂

I agree Leelou was probably a mafia kill, and a fairly safe one at that.  Those sorts of things are always of interest to me, particularly in a game like this one where the wolves likely have a good bit more insight than we do.  

Nine is crazy btw, ty for that.  Dice could only use one of his two, right?

We know 2 kill actions, assume Dice used one, mine makes four.  Curious to figure out more there.  

And if anyone is confused about it, this is a very townie post from Ithi.  Not out of her range, but it's strongly in the "good vibes" territory.  

Given my info Ithi, who do you think is the wolf between Turin/SD and what's your confidence?

[Darthe]

7 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Well, I am pretty sus about Turin's paper thin case on me yesterday, almost as sus as I am about Darthe's flyby "I've not read the thread" vote on me that made me a competing train. 

 

So not sure I believe Darthe at all. But still the gladiatorial games would be fun. No wait, that is nude mud wrestling. Same difference I suppose.

 

5 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

I have my suspicions that I wasn't bus drived last night, but I can't guarantee Turin wasn't.

 

If you're telling the truth about being a mentalist and you weren't hit with a bus driver... Then Turin's a wolf.

 

4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Teph (7) -  Ithi, berf, Heavy, Sin, Lee, Shad, Turin

Heavy (5) - dice, Tarthe/Digs, Teph, Gud, peace,

 

So, Darthe, Gud and Peace are looking suspicious. Gud has a claim that is not CCd. Shad, Turin not looking great. Obviously no one else is cleared but feel good about Leelou and Ithi. No wait, Shad was voting Berf, that makes a difference. And Turin on Sinister. Lee was first on Teph but then had a moment. Sinister far enough down the line to look ok, I think. Maybe?

 

Gud and Ithi saying they sent their roles to Dice. Thanks for that based on the wagonomics but second vote is always mafia? I could get behind that. 

 

Gud claimed I was "pushy" because I was giving her some really good ingame advice for either alignment. Defended Teph because she knows how he thinks. Alrighty. Anyone want to CC her, now would be a good time, Darthe and Peace not included.

 

Darthe and Peace need to go. That may solve the game but hopefully we'll find out on the way. 

 

Oh and if someone has a gun, shoot Ed. Thanks.

 

4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Anyone have any thoughts on the Siren? Something is troubling me, but not sure I can quite get my head around it. But I can sort of feel the edges of something ominous, if you know what I mean.

 

Anyway, I'm off to bed to think about it. Sirens and feeling things, I mean. 

These four posts together almost 100% sell me on SD/Heavy being a team.  The only thing holding me back from shipping it is that SD highlighted the role as used up in the OP.

[Darthe]

1 hour ago, berf said:

I'll be able to dedicate some time to this tonight.

 

I feel good about the Teph lynch, SD still seems sus but that might be old data/misinterpreted vibes. 

 

Turin vs SD has me thinking Turin town SD mafia which tracks with the vibes I've gotten til this point. But that's an interesting and good pair to pit against each other - That is of course if Darthe's claim is to be believed, which, it probably can. That slot needs attention from myself before I'm ready to lean either way, but very bold mafia moves if so.

 

Leelou and dice - leelou was the NK? We don't have like flavour confirmation or anything RE mafia NKs vs random other murders?

 

Dice wasn't looking great but dying holding cop and doc is... Something. 

 

And someone (SD?) asked me about dice claiming he caught a slip from someone and I have to revisit that. 

 

Until tonight xo

I picked these two based on a post of berf's from yesterday, as I said.   Seeing the internal consistency here is a nice reinforcement though, and unforced on his part.  Very natural posting, which to me says town.  

It was a greedy move, but I've got a core here.

(myself), Berf, Ithi, the good guy between Turin (probably) and SD are clean
Ed could be a deep wolf but I doubt it
Peace I mostly am reading from Ithi interactions
Gud/shad I don't have good takes on
Wolves in (probably SD between turin/SD), Heavy.

^We lynch bottom up and we win this game.

[Darthe]

38 minutes ago, ed2funy said:

Hiiiii. 

OK Ed, you're here and you've got good tone, but I need you to feed me boo.  Can't ride along for three consecutive games man, it's not good practice.  

So gimme something.  Hot takes.  Reads.  Favorite scene from TNG.  Just feed me bby.  

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

So Darthe no explanation for your fly by vote? What a bunch of garbage reads. 

 

Don't trust your claim about Turin and SD. 

 

I thought you were a good player? How come you are so off the pace? Overnight I was actually softening on you, thinking maybe this just all comes down to your towering self belief in that you seriously think you can spot a wolf in one post from a player that has literally never been a wolf. 

 

But this garbage you have spewed into the thread, sounding like you are in charge? Yeah, softening reversed. 

 

But are you mafia or the sump, just out of curiosity? 

 

Darthe, Peace, and given Darthe's ramblings I worry about Turin/Sinister. 

 

What a disappointment to wake and see this polluting the thread. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

3 hours ago, Darthe said:

Please stop calling things rude and memeing your way through this game.  It's incredibly tedious to parse out and doesn't help town.

How rude. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

6 hours ago, Gudrean said:

 

  On 5/30/2025 at 10:40 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

It would be nice if Gud came out of her cave of secrets and voted too.

 

With reasons.

 

And Eddie...  lmao

I am currently trying to catch up, on pg 30. Been out food shopping all morning. I don't know why everyone thinks I'm in a cave or whatever. Just wasn't ready to die for what I knew yet. Here's my secrets: I viewed Darth N0, said he was town and then a 🦆 killed him!

Passed the parcel and here we are. Now I'm gonna get back to reading. 😋

 

 

  On 5/29/2025 at 7:55 PM, dicetosser1 said:

Gud   Scum. Agree with PEace that stowing her thoughts the way she did seems like trying to get people to jump on it but with a built in "i didnt mean them to do that built in"  She feels like she is purposefully aiming at ithi.

fwiw I think Ithi is town 

How Rude! You are definitely not getting another xmas card this year!

 

 

DICE, COP AND DOC, HAS BEEN KILLED. 

 

 

This is about as CC'd as it gets

I don't understand what you mean, Gud. Dice was confirmed cop N1. What are you claiming? 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Dice wasn't holding anything when he died or the roles would have been lost.

 

That post of DPRs means he just had them at some point.

 

I think Teph was Mafia and so I'm still very concerned about Peace who voted Heavy and wouldn't move his vote when Heavy claimed Apportioner. That gives an extra Day of life... which I believe is a pro Town role. Also I don't think Peace has said much since all that happened, apart from getting snarky with me during the Night... so I think he's laying low.

 

Heavy was confirmed Apportioner and so I don't know why people now have him on the Mafia team.

 

Peace also decided that Heavy had been his 2nd highest Mafia lean with very little evidence to show that had been his thought... apart from linking him lightly with Leelou. Leelou was the Governor another usually pro Town role.

 

But if people are thinking that the Mafia team would be given two roles that can keep players alive... okay?

 

I'm not the Siren. I had the Doc parcel on Night 0 and I did pass it to Dice. If Gud had Cop night zero she also passed hers to Dice... but he'd already passed them along before he died so they were not lost.

 

I would say that I'd have to have Sinister as the bad Guy between Turin and Sinister. Sinister spent most of Day 1 being purely interested in defending himself rather than looking for Mafia.

 

The only thing I have on Turin is being 2nd vote on Sinister. Turin did Hammer Teph... and he could have let it go random.

 

Has Ed explained why he killed Heavy yet?

 

I do believe that Darthe was Apportioner though, so I think we have to resolve Turin and Sinister.

 

But please I don't think Heavy was or is Mafia. Ed killed a claimed life giving role and Peace is ugh.

[Ithillian Turambar]

5 hours ago, ed2funy said:

I swear I saw you tease it before. And didn’t someone just talk about siren. 
is that the right role? 

Tease?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Wait I'm getting the stupid names of roles muddled up.

 

Darthe was the dude that can tell if people have different alignments. 

 

Heavy was Apportioner. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

6 hours ago, Darthe said:

This is a wolf post.  

This is a wolf.  

These are not raisins. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

I was getting confused a bit about the Mentalist. Not a pass the parcel role. Definitely not a mafia role, they know who is who. 

 

So anyone else claiming? 

 

Though the trouble is if someone used the role and died, we wouldn't know that. How quick was Darthe's claim? Not sure I like that. But even if genuinely the Mentalist, Darthe can be the Symp. 

 

Darthe hasn't explained his flyby vote on me making me a competing train to Teph. He has not given a single reason for continuing his attack on me "this is a wolf" hardly counts as anything meaningful. 

 

I'm suspicious that he is cool with Peace, I'm totally with Ithi on that. 

 

Darthe says he is cool with the elimination of Teph retroactively, but his actions were to do a flyby vote to get a counter train going and then dip. Doesn't seem like Darthe was particularly keen on eliminating Teph in practice. 

 

Turin's case on me was really worrying. I appear a lot in his notes when his notes consisted of some really early interactions and me calling Ithi aggressive (my bad btw, the word I was looking for was fierce, sorry about that). I can see why Darthe, if somehow genuine could view Sinister and Turin, but it also feels off. That could be just my suspicions of Darthe and Turin speaking. 

 

Also still sus of berf. He seems to have flown under the radar a bit since he was an early train option that derailed on favour of me and Teph. Worth keeping an eye on I think. 

 

Would like to hear something more substantial from Ed. Sorry is a good start though, lol. Ed said he wasn't caught up in the thread. From the OP the Gunsmith's guns only last a day but why fire if you aren't caught up? Why shoot but not vote? 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

2 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Though the trouble is if someone used the role and died, we wouldn't know that. How quick was Darthe's claim? Not sure I like that. But even if genuinely the Mentalist, Darthe can be the Symp. 

No wait. I was going to ask mod confirmation but I don't think there are enough dead people to make this a possibility. 

 

@DPR though just as a point of interest, if Dice for example had used an ability before dying, would that appear in the death report? If you are OK with saying of course, hypothetically, not confirming anything.