How different is too different?

[Elder_Haman]

  On 5/24/2025 at 7:57 PM, HeronMarkedBlade said:

And the long nightmare that was this adaptation is finally ended!

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Celebrating people being out of work. Classy. 

[HeronMarkedBlade]

  On 5/24/2025 at 8:16 PM, Elder_Haman said:

Celebrating people being out of work. Classy. 

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Man, don’t come at me with that BS. If Judkins wanted people to watch he should’ve made a faithful adaptation. 
 

these aren’t minimum wage employees. They made hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars for their work. 
 

 

[Elder_Haman]

  On 5/24/2025 at 8:23 PM, HeronMarkedBlade said:

They made hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars for their work.

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I’m sure the camera, lighting, sound, fx people, makeup and costume designers, etc. will be surprised to learn that they made so much!! I’m sure that will be comforting as they try to find more work. 

[HeronMarkedBlade]

  On 5/24/2025 at 8:52 PM, Elder_Haman said:

I’m sure the camera, lighting, sound, fx people, makeup and costume designers, etc. will be surprised to learn that they made so much!! I’m sure that will be comforting as they try to find more work. 

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They will move on to something else just like every other time a series or movie finishes shooting. That’s how the business works.

[Elder_Haman]

  On 5/24/2025 at 10:32 PM, HeronMarkedBlade said:

They will move on to something else just like every other time a series or movie finishes shooting. That’s how the business works.

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I’m sure it’s not at all stressful for those people who make, on average, less than $50k. Especially since the film and television business is famously doing so well right now. 
 

Talk about tone deaf. 

[SinisterDeath]

Here's some fun for you all.

Dragonmount has been around since 1998.

 

That's nearly ~27 years Dragonmount has been a Wheel of Time Fansite folks.

 

Here's some numbers for you to think about.

Starting from 2006, until today.

Note, Robert Jordan Died, September 16th, 2007.

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Book 12, The Gathering Storm, came out on October 27th, 2009.
Book 13, Towers of Midnight, came out on November 2nd, 2010.
Book 14, A Memory of Light, came out on January 8th, 2013.
The TV show was formally announced April 28th, 2016.
Production began in the Fall of 2019.

It wrapped up in May 2021, and it first aired on Prime, on November 19th, 2021.
Season 2's first episode aired September 1st, 2023.
Season 3's first episode aired in March 2025.

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For many of us who have been here for years. 
Dragonmount is a community of Wheel of Time fans... and it stands out when people come out of nowhere, ignoring all the work we've put in on our Forum Rules & Guidelines, and completely bypass the Introduction Forum as a way to introduce themselves to the greater community.
 

[Samt]

  On 5/24/2025 at 10:55 PM, Elder_Haman said:

I’m sure it’s not at all stressful for those people who make, on average, less than $50k. Especially since the film and television business is famously doing so well right now. 
 

Talk about tone deaf. 

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It’s a pretty underhanded non-sequitur to make this about jobs. Not liking a product always has implications for the job security of people that make it.  If Rafe wanted to give his people job security, he should have made a better product.  It’s not the job of the audience to watch a boring show because we feel bad for the poor people working on the product.

 

And frankly, that was the problem with the show.  I didn’t dislike it.  It was just boring.  And as someone who was actually interested the whole way through the slog, I don’t think it’s a superhuman feat to make something interesting.

[Elder_Haman]

  On 5/25/2025 at 5:02 AM, Samt said:

It’s a pretty underhanded non-sequitur to make this about jobs.

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No. It most certainly is not.

 

  On 5/25/2025 at 5:02 AM, Samt said:

Not liking a product always has implications for the job security of people that make it.

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That is definitely true.

 

  On 5/25/2025 at 5:02 AM, Samt said:

It’s not the job of the audience to watch a boring show because we feel bad for the poor people working on the product.

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Again, this is 100% true.

 

But that isn't the point. The point is that celebrating an outcome that costs many people their jobs is ghoulish and gross.

 

One can be critical of the show and even supportive of the cancellation and still maintain a modicum of class. Metaphorically jumping up and down with delight because the show was cancelled is simply low class.

[Maximillion]

  On 5/25/2025 at 7:54 PM, Elder_Haman said:

No. It most certainly is not.

 

That is definitely true.

 

Again, this is 100% true.

 

But that isn't the point. The point is that celebrating an outcome that costs many people their jobs is ghoulish and gross.

 

One can be critical of the show and even supportive of the cancellation and still maintain a modicum of class. Metaphorically jumping up and down with delight because the show was cancelled is simply low class.

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I don't think that is the driver - celebration.

Many book fans were and are very angry with Rafe Judkins and his team for what they produced with a beloved franchise.

I don't see many celebrating the cancellation as such, maybe you do.

I guess people who are not sad at all that it's been cancelled because they didn't want the story destroyed anymore (in their opinion)  can be galling to people who just wanted the show to continue and like it.

 

Personally I wanted it to continue but with Judkins and his team removed.

 

But it is not to be.

 

The best part of the entire effort were the Origin stories IMO.

They should make the whole story like that - maybe in the future!

 

 

[Elder_Haman]

  On 5/25/2025 at 8:29 PM, Maximillion said:

I don't see many celebrating the cancellation as such, maybe you do.

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I do. It’s not as bad here as it is elsewhere, but there are a few. 
 

And again, there is nothing wrong with not liking the show. There’s nothing inherently wrong with agreeing that the show should be cancelled. 
 

There is a certain cadre of smug, self-satisfied folks that are taking joy in the fact that the show was cancelled and seem to delight in rubbing people’s noses in it. That bothers and irritates me. 

[Pukel-man]

  On 5/25/2025 at 8:37 PM, Elder_Haman said:

I do. It’s not as bad here as it is elsewhere, but there are a few. 
 

And again, there is nothing wrong with not liking the show. There’s nothing inherently wrong with agreeing that the show should be cancelled. 
 

There is a certain cadre of smug, self-satisfied folks that are taking joy in the fact that the show was cancelled and seem to delight in rubbing people’s noses in it. That bothers and irritates me. 

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That's a reflection of your fandom of the show, more than anything else, IMO. Stop liking what I don't like!  It's just opinions on the internet.