GOD COMPLEX Game Over

[Clovdyx]

2 minutes ago, Hallia said:

This was in response to I think Wifi's vote on her, which I am in agreement, it made no sense.

 

1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Maybe.  I'm not really sure tbh.  I think Hallia was really the only one sort of pushing there.  Chris pointed out some questionable things, and WiFi had him as her second highest scum read as a gut read but hasn't really done anything to push it.

 

I'll be honest... I have absolutely no idea how to take her completely ignoring Zander when Hallia and I were voting there - not questioning or really even acknowledging my vote, despite being her #2 candidate, only to vote Nyn for the reasons she did.  I know she had already said that Nyn was her biggest scumread, but that was something else.

[Andrej]

Well I think this has been productive. Not sure how much new info the Night will bring but I feel pretty good with directions to move in next.

 

im going to bed cause the kids aren’t into that sleeping in thing

 

im glad to be back and playing again ❤️

[Zander?]

5 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

 

Bold is probably the key here.  It's not that she was just suspicious of me - it's that she had been on me consistently since pretty much the start of the game, and she's done minimal exploration outside of that.  Prior to a few hours ago, I think the only reads she gave were Kat and me.  Voting Illian unnecessarily wasn't going to do Mafia!BFG any favors.

 

If she needed it for her own survival, that's a different story.

 

My issue is she focus this game has been on you.  She had maybe 2 other fluffy light reads.

 

Town!BFG has a broader scope of players then that imo.  Am I wrong iyo?

[Zander?]

4 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

 

Probably not.  I think he's tunneling BFG over the ~wrong reasons, but there's a pretty decent chance he's right about her anyway, and his reaction to me isn't really any different than how he's handled Cory before when he was wrong.  Or probably me, if I've ever been wrong before in a mafia game.

 

Which I haven't.

 

its prolly somewhat unfair but certain players like yourself i hold in very high regard and yes when they're wrong or "wrong" my suss gross a lot.

[Zander?]

9 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Chris, what's your take on Zander?  Is he just being Zander?

 

 

wutido.gif?!??!!?

 

 

9 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

thread needs more @dicetosser1 tbh.  As someone who was actively pushing the illian lynch at one point, I'd like this take on EoD.

 

first time those words have ever been uttered....lololololol

[Zander?]

8 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

 

That's fair.  What do you think about WiFi following Zander's lead on it?  I'm not sure I'd be so trusting of my second strongest scum read?  Or maybe her read on him changed.  idk.  I kind of give up on the whole thing tbh.  

 

If it were anyone but Wifi I'd be calling for her head....its still not a great look.  But again gotta weigh it against the player not the action in general. 

 

Wifi's confidence is the one thing Im having trouble wrapping my head around.

[TrippedOnReality]

1 hour ago, Zanatron said:

 

My issue is she focus this game has been on you.  She had maybe 2 other fluffy light reads.

 

Town!BFG has a broader scope of players then that imo.  Am I wrong iyo?

No one is arguing she can’t be mafia. We were talking about why she wouldn’t vote Illian there if she were mafia, since Dice was trying to argue that he expected her to vote Illian if she were mafia. 

[Zander?]

6 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

 

She feels kind of alone?  I mean, BFG could have been distancing from Nyn, but I don't think she pushes Nyn to two votes when she's a counter wagon and we know Illian's town.  So I think Nyn/BFG is less likely.  Zander has been pushing Nyn in like 70% of his scum teams so I don't think Nyn is probably teamed there.  I don't think Nyn is teamed with WiFi mostly based on her confusing comment on "I think Nyn subtly suggesting that she's scum and giving up, so we should totally vote her here"  I'd have to look at like Iron/Nyn or Dice/Nyn as options.

 

I had Chris/Nyn as unlikely teamed with a bunch of question marks, but that was from like 3 days ago so I'm not entirely sure where my head was at when I was thinking that. 

 

I don't think there is anything preventing Nyn/Hallia or Nyn/AJ? 

 

But I don't think Nyn/Hallia/BFG works?  It could be Hallia with either, but Nyn with BFG doesn't make sense to me.

 

@Clovdyx

 

Whats Scum!BFG's view on bussing and how does she tend to approach her teammates?

[TrippedOnReality]

43 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

If it were anyone but Wifi I'd be calling for her head....its still not a great look.  But again gotta weigh it against the player not the action in general. 

 

Wifi's confidence is the one thing Im having trouble wrapping my head around.

 

I mean, fine. I guess. Just, I have no idea how to get a read on someone who doesn’t seem to take into consideration the read she had on the people she’s interacting with and whose thought process I can’t follow. 

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

No one is arguing she can’t be mafia. We were talking about why she wouldn’t vote Illian there if she were mafia, since Dice was trying to argue that he expected her to vote Illian if she were mafia. 

 

I know no one was arguing it.  I'm simply stating how I'm viewing it.

[TrippedOnReality]

Chris kind of answered that after I posted, so keep reading. It was not exactly about bussing, but it was his take on what I said. 

[Zander?]

6 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

 

The only part of this I'd really disagree with is ruling out Zander/Nyn, based on the fact he's been naming her.  Zander is a notoriously hard busser and has had scumgames where he's spent more time pushing his teammates than the entirety of town.  He's gotten better about it - he mostly avoided discussing him teammate in that one game I played with him, and I did brutally threaten him when we were teammates - but he's absolutely not going to shy away from naming his teammates as potential mafia, especially if it's somebody that isn't getting much towncred.

 

I don't think he's ever teamed with BFG, and he's probably not with Hallia, but I think that has more to do with her -> than <- him.  

 

Whats your reasoning irt this?!?!?!

[TrippedOnReality]

4 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

I know no one was arguing it.  I'm simply stating how I'm viewing it.

 

That’s fair. It just seem based on what you said that you thought people weren’t reading her as scum, which is kind of the opposite of what was happening. 

[Zander?]

6 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Although Kat's gif game was on point for a bit, so there was that.

 

[TrippedOnReality]

I expect it from you Zander.  I was not expecting from Kat as much. 

[Zander?]

6 hours ago, Andrej said:

I haven’t really considered Zander much tbh. Am I wrong in doing that

 

Its alarming to me both you felt the need to say this and that Town!AJ hasnt considered it.  I know you just got here but Im use to us having at least one strong exchange at both Town to figure eachother out obv I know you just got here but ya this comment feel;s weird and off to me.

 

And its strange because Ive actually been pretty ok with what Ive seen from you thus far tho admittedly a small sample size.

 

 

[Zander?]

6 hours ago, Hallia said:

It's against the grain for me, lead wagon of what...one person??  Maybe two?  Not exactly a gigantic wagon, you seem to be over exaggerating a lot of stuff this game.

 

Even at 2 it was tied for top wagon, see its this kind of false/weak/stretching things youre trying to force a Scum read on me.  SO Im gonna try to approach this from a different angle.

 

Please explain in some detail the differences your seeing in this game irt me then in games where you knew I was Town?

[Zander?]

7 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

 

Probably not.  I think he's tunneling BFG over the ~wrong reasons, but there's a pretty decent chance he's right about her anyway, and his reaction to me isn't really any different than how he's handled Cory before when he was wrong.  Or probably me, if I've ever been wrong before in a mafia game.

 

Which I haven't.

 

LAL?!?!?!?!!?!?

 

lolololololololol

[Zander?]

7 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Maybe.  I'm not really sure tbh.  I think Hallia was really the only one sort of pushing there.  Chris pointed out some questionable things, and WiFi had him as her second highest scum read as a gut read but hasn't really done anything to push it.

 

@Wildfire Sedai

 

Whats your current read on me and why?

[Zander?]

7 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

 

 

I'll be honest... I have absolutely no idea how to take her completely ignoring Zander when Hallia and I were voting there - not questioning or really even acknowledging my vote, despite being her #2 candidate, only to vote Nyn for the reasons she did.  I know she had already said that Nyn was her biggest scumread, but that was something else.

 

@everyone

 

If Wifi is Scum who makes the most sense as her partner and why?

[Zander?]

6 hours ago, Andrej said:

Well I think this has been productive. Not sure how much new info the Night will bring but I feel pretty good with directions to move in next.

 

im going to bed cause the kids aren’t into that sleeping in thing

 

im glad to be back and playing again ❤️

 

 

Good to have you back boo!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ 

 

Hope the kids feel better too!!!!!!

[Zander?]

24 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

 

I mean, fine. I guess. Just, I have no idea how to get a read on someone who doesn’t seem to take into consideration the read she had on the people she’s interacting with and whose thought process I can’t follow. 

 

It takes all kinds to play this great game of Mafia!!!!!

[TrippedOnReality]

Just now, Zanatron said:

 

It takes all kinds to play this great game of Mafia!!!!!

I don’t care that she has a different play style. I care that I don’t know how to read her. She’s not the first person I’ve struggled to read, she won’t be the last.  :shrugs:

[Zander?]

14 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

I expect it from you Zander.  I was not expecting from Kat as much. 

 

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

I don’t care that she has a different play style. I care that I don’t know how to read her. She’s not the first person I’ve struggled to read, she won’t be the last.  :shrugs:

 

I cant read her either really just go off of stuff I remember and her personality.