You're In Good Hands: The Beau Tomteer Law Firm Mafia GAME THREAD

[Cass]

@Lenlo

And maybe even put together a full case on AJ, as you see it now,  with quotes and your interpretations/ considerations?

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Lenlo (1) - Leno

Cass (1) - Cass

 

Not Voting (6) - AJ, Darc, Illian, Kat Nyn, Cass

 

Deadline Dec 14th @ 12 PMPM EST

[Lenlo]

2 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

@Lenlo, tbf your hyper-insistence on AJ is/has been wigging me out since it started. 

 

I feel like the strength of your push/tunnel is disproportionate to the initial comment/reaction of his, and I haven't seen much consideration from you that you could be wrong,  which is concerning. 

 

I'm sorry if it turns out you're Town and right and we're all lagging, but can you pleeeeaaaaaaase go re-look everyone else too?

 

This is no longer about just his initial comment Cass, we moved beyond that a loooooooong time ago. I did consider if I could be wrong, but after the Penguin lynch? And now this one? I don't think I am. And this is not the phase in the game to start doubting my strongest reads.

 

I have already looked at everyone else recently as well. I made a list not but a few pages ago. AJ is my #1, then Kat, Then Nyn.

[Lenlo]

2 minutes ago, Cass said:

@Lenlo

And maybe even put together a full case on AJ, as you see it now,  with quotes and your interpretations/ considerations?

You mean like the giant catchup post I did a few days ago? ?

 

Ill look into it at work tomorrow, but I am not dropping this because you think its annoying. Your going to have to give me something better to get me to move from my #1 lynch. No one has proven to me why AJ is town yet. Your all just going "that one comment isn't worth all this" when we moved past the one comment a long time ago. No one is even backing up their town read of AJ, just going along with it. I get that hes a strong player, I do. But if hes that strong, why is he not dead yet? Why have the wolves not shot him like they did Clov?

 

Answer some of those while I get you your post.

[Illian Tear]

Accuse: Darc

 

*red text because I'm on mobile* 

Vote: Lenlo

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Lenlo (1) - Leno

Cass (1) - Cass

 

Not Voting (6) - AJ, Darc, Illian, Kat Nyn, Cass

 

Deadline Dec 14th @ 12 PMPM EST

[Andrej]

11 hours ago, Lenlo said:

So, is this where I push AJ and Kat again? AJ voted no on Hallia, the only lynched wolf. Kat abstained. Both have voted yes on both of the Town Lynches.

 

You’re gonna need to do better.

[Andrej]

7 hours ago, Illian Tear said:

I'm guessing either Darc or Aj is wolf.

 

This is based on what exactly?

[Andrej]

7 hours ago, Cass said:

Morning, 

 

I'm at work with sporadic down time and access but will be free tonight with computer access to ISO etc. 

 

If anyone wants to pull out the 65789 AJ posts and stick them together I'did then, I'd appreciate it.

 

Currently my PoE is still

 

Kat/Nyn/    AJ/Lenlo

 

 

@Illian Tear have you seen anything else wrt Darc that makes you think she's a wolf?

 

 

Let's have a go at majority votes/ trains.

 

Accuse: Kat 

 

If you're Town we really need you to get digging pls

 

Happy to Vote: Cass[/colour] for now too.

 

Are those grouped or is the spacing just weird in the middle?

 

If grouped, why Kat/Nyn & AJ/Len? And if in order can you give cliff notes why you have people where they are?

[Andrej]

7 hours ago, Lenlo said:

Accuse: AJ

All day every day. At this point if he is a wolf we can't leave him around and up in the air. We have to resolve him.

 

See thing is, I find the fight against him funny. Wolves would jump on the chance to lynch a town AJ, then lynch town me the next day using that flip as leverage to prove I am a wolf. They would atleast humor it. That absolutely no one is even considering it, fighting it that hard? To me that speaks of being on the right track and wolves steering away from the train to give it as little support and attention as possible.

 

Cass already debunked how this is a fallacy, but disregarding that there are more villagers alive than wolves, why would the scum (allowing you not to be included in this scenario) want to push me knowing it would make them obvious? It’s not like people suddenly reversing reads on players isn’t noticeable and I am reputably very hard to mislynch. You’re trying to set this fearmongering narrative and you’re going to fail.

 

hard.

[Andrej]

4 hours ago, Lenlo said:

 

This is no longer about just his initial comment Cass, we moved beyond that a loooooooong time ago. I did consider if I could be wrong, but after the Penguin lynch? And now this one? I don't think I am. And this is not the phase in the game to start doubting my strongest reads.

 

I have already looked at everyone else recently as well. I made a list not but a few pages ago. AJ is my #1, then Kat, Then Nyn.

 

? ?

 

funny how the two people you have the most team equity with are ranked behind me, and I have been the main focus of your attention for the majority of the game.

 

4 hours ago, Lenlo said:

You mean like the giant catchup post I did a few days ago? ?

 

Ill look into it at work tomorrow, but I am not dropping this because you think its annoying. Your going to have to give me something better to get me to move from my #1 lynch. No one has proven to me why AJ is town yet. Your all just going "that one comment isn't worth all this" when we moved past the one comment a long time ago. No one is even backing up their town read of AJ, just going along with it. I get that hes a strong player, I do. But if hes that strong, why is he not dead yet? Why have the wolves not shot him like they did Clov?

 

Answer some of those while I get you your post.

 

This can literally be said about anymore. What proves you as Town? Why haven’t you been killed yet?

 

This is a convenient narrative to abuse when the fact of the matter is that scum have been shooting anyone elected and not just making strong player kills. But obviously that hurts your position so I don’t expect you to acknowledge that.

[Andrej]

Also hello. Sorry for missing the weekend but the trip was very fun and it had been hectic coming back home and getting things back in order.

 

I’m good to go now.

[Lenlo]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

? ?

 

funny how the two people you have the most team equity with are ranked behind me, and I have been the main focus of your attention for the majority of the game.

Its as if I am consistent in my reads, and your team equity crap is unfounded

[Lenlo]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

This can literally be said about anymore. What proves you as Town? Why haven’t you been killed yet?

 

This is a convenient narrative to abuse when the fact of the matter is that scum have been shooting anyone elected and not just making strong player kills. But obviously that hurts your position so I don’t expect you to acknowledge that.

I'm also not a well known, typically assumed skilled, town player. I never get NKed, cause more often than not I am wrong and suck. Thats common knowledge.

 

Your not. How many of your town games do you live to D3 in AJ? D4?

[Lenlo]

Yes, they shot the elected, because those are generally consensus town players. Who else would we trust with that? 

[Lenlo]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Also hello. Sorry for missing the weekend but the trip was very fun and it had been hectic coming back home and getting things back in order.

 

I’m good to go now.

Hope it was a good trip buddy. Anniversaries are important

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Its as if I am consistent in my reads, and your team equity crap is unfounded

 

More like unable to progress.

 

Is it? Lol. You’ve been chirping about me for Days now while you’re keeping Kat/Nyn just above the danger zone with no real effort in those directions. It’s classic partner placement.

[Lenlo]

Because Kat and Nyn havn't said anything? What is there to progress on in that direction when there is no activity AJ?

 

As for chirping about you, its as if your my number 1 read and no one is even caring to look at you. Hoy doy, I wonder why I care about you so much?

[Lenlo]

Your talking like your not the one to have lynched 2 townies in a row, and avoided being on the only wolf lynch. At least Nyn was actually on a wolf lynch

[Andrej]

3 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

I'm also not a well known, typically assumed skilled, town player. I never get NKed, cause more often than not I am wrong and suck. Thats common knowledge.

 

Your not. How many of your town games do you live to D3 in AJ? D4?

 

Plenty of them. All depends on who is in the game, how it develops and if I’m hitting the mark or not. You, have left me alive as scum before to take advantage of built in thread narratives - so I find this question both irrelevant and also disingenuous coming from you.

[Lenlo]

Just now, Andrej said:

 

Plenty of them. All depends on who is in the game, how it develops and if I’m hitting the mark or not. You, have left me alive as scum before to take advantage of built in thread narratives - so I find this question both irrelevant and also disingenuous coming from you.

I remember none of that, so I will have to take your word for it.

[Andrej]

7 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Yes, they shot the elected, because those are generally consensus town players. Who else would we trust with that? 

 

Right. So how does that fit into your “he’s alive must be scum” story?

[Andrej]

Just now, Lenlo said:

I remember none of that, so I will have to take your word for it.

 

Shad’s big tournament game where the scum got to pick who was knocked out and reshuffle the brackets after D1. I was against BFG D1 (both Town) and people were scared we were scum together. You paired us (again!) and won that game. We had it out the last two phases.

 

you seriously don’t remember?

[Andrej]

5 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Because Kat and Nyn havn't said anything? What is there to progress on in that direction when there is no activity AJ?

 

As for chirping about you, its as if your my number 1 read and no one is even caring to look at you. Hoy doy, I wonder why I care about you so much?

 

Kat has posted. Nyn hasn’t said much, yeah, but that in itself says a lot imo.

 

There are two answers to that:

 

1) you are scum and fighting with me keeps you busy and keeps attention focused on you/me and no one agrees with you

 

2) you are Town and fighting with me keeps the focus elsewhere even if it never resolves itself and therefore it is more beneficial to let us go at it. Or no one agrees with you

[Lenlo]

5 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Shad’s big tournament game where the scum got to pick who was knocked out and reshuffle the brackets after D1. I was against BFG D1 (both Town) and people were scared we were scum together. You paired us (again!) and won that game. We had it out the last two phases.

 

you seriously don’t remember?

No, I dont. Well, vaguely maybe? I havnt played in awhile and even when I was active, I was bad at remember games after they were over.

 

As for no one agreeing with me, doesn't mean I'm not right. People didn't believe me in Ragnarok, but that one worked out.