The Stand Mafia [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN AND NOTBOB WIN!

[DPR]

4 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

no one said I didn't. then again, no one said I did. Like I said take it as you will.

 

Okay

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

55 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

 

lol

 

I knew I could count on you.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

48 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

1. Ninja was just used in the last game. It's fresh on everyone's mind. It's a great role to bring up if you want to claim Watcher and not have to produce results. 

 

2. We do have a dead Bus Driver and you have claimed that you are basically the Cop, so in that light a Town Watcher does make sense.

 

3. You are focused way to much on 1 player. Read the Krak posts I posted the link for and see what you see. Look at what NB is posting. As long as we look at the game from a big perspective and don't go diving into rabbit holes, we'll have this thing wrapped up in no time. 

 

I'm glad you realize I'm the voice of reason in all this.

[DPR]

5 minutes ago, 鲍勃不是我的名字 said:

 

I'm glad you realize I'm the voice of reason in all this.

 

You get points for showing up.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

40 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

1. wut?

 

2. So what? You've made your point - it's on the evidence table. We'll all look at it and if everyone decides that's the way to go, he'll swing tomorrow. You've done all you need to do here.

 

LOL - you ask folks to do that all the time. But it was just D1 when you were willing to die to protect Marsh, so that does kind of lessen the quality of the oath. And the Masons are already "effectively double voters" unless you 're drinking some of NB's Koolaid. 

 

NB's current koolaid.  Jealous?

 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

1 minute ago, DPR said:

 

You get points for showing up.

 

Wouldn't miss it!

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

27 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

Yes. But it's because you most likely have a driver's license and if the above is really what you see, then we should all be scared. 

 

 

 

Usually when I'm confused I check my premise.  I'd suggest the same to you.  Cause at least I can read.

 

Miss you Pengu.

[DPR]

10 minutes ago, 鲍勃不是我的名字 said:

 

Usually when I'm confused I check my premise.  I'd suggest the same to you.  Cause at least I can read.

 

Miss you Pengu.

 

Oh joy.

[Andrej]

Man, what a day. It would be that I get switched to Day crew at the start of the hottest part of summer

 

Need to get caught up but it shouldn’t take too long

[Gabriel Kross]

3 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Man, what a day. It would be that I get switched to Day crew at the start of the hottest part of summer

 

Need to get caught up but it shouldn’t take too long

Hopefully, by the time you're caught up you'll see the need to vote marsh

[Krakalakachkn]

Back and stuff.

[Krakalakachkn]

Anyone feel like filling me in?

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Krakalakachkn said:

Back and stuff.

wanna lynch Marsh?

[Gabriel Kross]

2 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

not at all. I think looking at aj was the proper mafia move if this had had standard roles like doc/cop AJ is generally known as a strong town player. He would likely draw the town attention during the night. the redirect was the key point to this. To figure out whether they caught the cop they needed to potentially sacrifice a member. At this point, Pengu was a goon which is the only reason I can think of for them burning execution day 1. if they had caught the cop, someone would have gone headfirst after Pengu AND would have shown up on Marsh's read list. Ironically, the first part did happen the second part not so much. This left the team scrambling. Pengu then distances from Marsh pretty hard and Leelou 180s her read on Pengu suddenly after I backed Pengu into a corner. Makes Leelou look less mafia and pulls Marsh out of the limelight forcing all attention on to Pengu. Pengu was a diversionary tactic that they set up to buy time.

Then it returns to Marsh so readily accepting the Ninja suggestion from Darthe. Ninja is a severly obscure role. While I know of it, I've never seen it actually put into a game.

Then there is a bit of gaming the mod. It's a low blow I know, but the information was given to me freely.
I complained about my role becoming useless when I confirmed that my role would only work on cop views. I was told that multiple roles became useless after Hallia's death. I suspect bus driver was one, and watcher the other. This brings me to the biggest tell of all that Marsh is mafia, he said he asked whether he would see bus driver's targets and claimed Songstress was evasive. Now, that did not match up with the interactions I had with Songstress, so here is completely lying.

Back to why watcher becomes useless w/o Hallia's role. The only Night action flip we've seen from mafia is bus driver. Sure we know there is a kill, but there is always a kill. Marsh already made the slip that he can't see the bus driver during his reveal. So the odds that Town has a watcher ONLY to watch for the kill is completely bizarre. the odds of catching the kill in a game like this is nearly impossible. It is more likely that it was mafia watcher as a counterpoint to town mechanics.

 

So either Marsh lied completely about being a Watcher or the role belongs to the Mafia team and Marsh is mafia.

@Krakalakachkn here is my current suspect for the last mafia

[Krakalakachkn]

gotcha thanks

[Krakalakachkn]

What players are seeing the most pressure atm?

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Krakalakachkn said:

gotcha thanks

what are your thoughts on my read?

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Krakalakachkn said:

What players are seeing the most pressure atm?

I think the only possible options that anyone is considering is you, NB, and Marsh. Though I'm sure I'm right on Marsh.
 

[Krakalakachkn]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

what are your thoughts on my read?

 

Lemme catch up first, I wanna get my head back in the game after 3 days of nothing but disc

[Andrej]

8 hours ago, Cory Caboose said:

Guessing the AJ <--> Penguins n1 might have been Leelou's bus drive?

 

I think you set EP off with post lol

 

It does give some weight to the idea that Marsh watched Penguins knowing whatever town role that visited me would be seen on Penguins.

 

Kat’s follow up after seems to explain Z’s posts at the start of D2 assuming he tried to guard Hallia

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Krakalakachkn said:

Lemme catch up first, I wanna get my head back in the game after 3 days of nothing but disc

 

Have fun

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

I think you set EP off with post lol

 

It does give some weight to the idea that Marsh watched Penguins knowing whatever town role that visited me would be seen on Penguins.

 

Kat’s follow up after seems to explain Z’s posts at the start of D2 assuming he tried to guard Hallia

no, I had been thinking about it for awhile before that. I had assumed at the initial reveal that it was coincidence that Marsh got redirected. Once you get to my long post on my response to Kat you'll understand my full mindset.

[Krakalakachkn]

4 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

I think the only possible options that anyone is considering is you, NB, and Marsh. Though I'm sure I'm right on Marsh.
 

 

yeah I can understand the case on me. Despite how my D1 vote makes me look I'm happy I read Leelou correctly and was turning on Dice before my LoA over the weekend. 

[Katiora]

4 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

I think you set EP off with post lol

 

It does give some weight to the idea that Marsh watched Penguins knowing whatever town role that visited me would be seen on Penguins.

 

Kat’s follow up after seems to explain Z’s posts at the start of D2 assuming he tried to guard Hallia

Actually I think he tried to vig you. 

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Katiora said:

Actually I think he tried to vig you. 

hmmmm