RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Andrej]

12 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Im not, but ok.

 

I like flips AJ. I have always used flips to both get invested and to update/compare reads and theories. Do you know how hard it is to do that when the game is filled with people who cant die? It really doesnt make a person want to care much.

 

There’s more than one way to shake out a game than flips. Yeah, that’s sucked obviously but you haven’t been doing much investigating beyond that. I wish I could ISO just to prove the point but I have been waiting days to see what you’d bring to the table on your own.

 

Lets take BG for instance. He’s outed 3P, great. There’s still a Mafia to hunt. You’re not doing that.

[Andrej]

23 minutes ago, Hallia said:

Mmmmm, I don't have a strong feeling either way about len - but unfeeling comfortable following aj and Nyn

 

I'll vote when I get off bc I forgot color rip

 

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@Hallia - you don't have to color, as long as you bold.

 

I'll get an updated VC in a few. Just leaving the hospital. My son had a rock lodged in his ear. They got it though, so we are all good. Going to lunch then taking him back to daycare and heading back to work. 

[Lenlo]

47 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

There’s more than one way to shake out a game than flips. Yeah, that’s sucked obviously but you haven’t been doing much investigating beyond that. I wish I could ISO just to prove the point but I have been waiting days to see what you’d bring to the table on your own.

 

Lets take BG for instance. He’s outed 3P, great. There’s still a Mafia to hunt. You’re not doing that.

Because theres nothing really to go on.

Kat is lolcatting, no info on that push.

Shad/Duk3, Shad was clearly the townier one so I can hardly fault anyone for lynching Duk3 when it was a forced thunderdome.

Ed was inactive D1 and came back in with a wolfy nothing, so I cant fault people lynching that.

The only real lynch I can judge is BG, the outted non-town who is apparently being defended.

 

There hasnt been a useful flip in days and you people spend so much time arguing with each other about random crap that I understand why no one wants to read it. I dont want to read it. DPR clearly doesnt/isn't reading it. Krak, the IC, hasnt been seen in days.

 

Are you really going to claim that investment, in this particular game of all things, is a useful metric? Did you see what Duk3 was doing before he got lynched? Is that investment?

[Andrej]

Duk3 was making reads and pushing suspects. DPR has been making reads and covering the whole field. Krak processes info and adjusts reads pretty much every time he’s here. You not so much. You’ve been on this BG lynch for two days and I have zero clue about where you are with anyone else because you’re not doing anything but throwing down votes and peacing out again after making a comment or two that doesn’t progress the game in any real meaningful manner. 

 

There is more to go on than what you’re underselling. You got complacent letting EP clutter the thread. The Gladiator event got you through half of the Day and I imagine when you hopped on that BG wagon you figured that’d be the lynch as well.

[Lenlo]

Yes, I hope BG would be the lynch, because BG lied. Outted non-town, who said after 1 night they could confirm themselves as town. That never happened. Why is letting an outted non-town live up for discussion?

 

Shoot me or lynch me tomorrow, but dont pretend this is about hunting wolves when you defending the outted non-town.

 

Also what you call complacent I call uninterested. I got bored watching EP clutter the thread with nonsense. As did most people.

[Leyrann]

Alright I was unsure about Len and I'm kind of thinking that AJ might be taking too much of a leader role (almost bavarian fire drilling it), but I don't like Len's responses, in particular because he missed things like Krak coming in and because he apparently doesn't want to look for mafia elsewhere.

 

Other updates, I'm liking DPR far more after those last few posts, that reminded me of how he played in the games I played with him in the past. Nyn looked better in the last few posts, but still I want to see more engagement with the game there. Want more from Arie and Hallia. Starting to get annoyed by Ed's lack of content but I kind of feel like that might be a PR.

 

Vote: Lenlo

[Leyrann]

I will admit I am not sure where my vote was previously.

[Andrej]

You’re making excuses. EP doesn’t hinder you from putting forth an effort. Plenty of people have expressed annoyance there but are still contributing and playing the field. Your scope has been the lynch of the day and that’s what outed you.

 

BG will have his time. His action went through at the very least before the NAs were undone. His claim makes sense with what’s happened so far and he is clearly not being backed by anyone before now because he’s an easy lynch for both Town and Mafia to get on. 

 

You're not even trying to process and adjustwith new info. 

[Nynaeve]

2 minutes ago, Leyrann said:

I will admit I am not sure where my vote was previously.

 

Werent you biting me?

[Nynaeve]

Voting

 

Lol autocorrect

[Lenlo]

31 minutes ago, Andrej said:

You’re making excuses. EP doesn’t hinder you from putting forth an effort. Plenty of people have expressed annoyance there but are still contributing and playing the field. Your scope has been the lynch of the day and that’s what outed you.

 

BG will have his time. His action went through at the very least before the NAs were undone. His claim makes sense with what’s happened so far and he is clearly not being backed by anyone before now because he’s an easy lynch for both Town and Mafia to get on. 

 

You're not even trying to process and adjustwith new info. 

"His claim makes sense", since when does 3rd party turning town make sense? I myself have made this exact claim, lied through my teeth, for a win.

 

His claim makes 0 sense and he hasnt backed any of it up. 

 

Whatever. Been up sense 5am, im not dealing with this

 

Unvote: Vote: Len

 

When I flip town, lynch/shoot BG, when he flips not-town, think about lynching/shooting AJ.

[Shad_]

2 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

k. done with you, and if Shad keeps pushing this drama I'm done with him as well.

 

I've literally had her on ignore since D1 mate.  She still has an alignment.

[Andrej]

6 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

"His claim makes sense", since when does 3rd party turning town make sense? I myself have made this exact claim, lied through my teeth, for a win.

 

His claim makes 0 sense and he hasnt backed any of it up. 

 

Whatever. Been up sense 5am, im not dealing with this

 

Unvote: Vote: Len

 

When I flip town, lynch/shoot BG, when he flips not-town, think about lynching/shooting AJ.

 

He didn’t claim to have turned Town. He claimed to be unaligned with the ability to take someone’s opposite alignment when he kills them. Hence the Sooh kill last Night. That’s not any sort of proof?

 

It’s like you’re not even reading or are just intentionally being thick skulled because it’s easier to repeat your out dated reads than to adjust accordingly.

[Andrej]

Like we all know BG is not Town. He’s not living to the end of this game. There’s still Mafia to hunt.

 

you have zero other reads and go with the self voting option?

 

Regardless of your alignment I hoped for more from you. If you’re Town you had the keys to the Ferrari D1 and decided to stay in bed instead.

[Andrej]

58 minutes ago, Leyrann said:

Alright I was unsure about Len and I'm kind of thinking that AJ might be taking too much of a leader role (almost bavarian fire drilling it), but I don't like Len's responses, in particular because he missed things like Krak coming in and because he apparently doesn't want to look for mafia elsewhere.

 

Other updates, I'm liking DPR far more after those last few posts, that reminded me of how he played in the games I played with him in the past. Nyn looked better in the last few posts, but still I want to see more engagement with the game there. Want more from Arie and Hallia. Starting to get annoyed by Ed's lack of content but I kind of feel like that might be a PR.

 

Vote: Lenlo

 

This guy needs to get nuked too.

[Leyrann]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

This guy needs to get nuked too.

 

Okay, whatever you say.

 

Interested in the why though.

[Lenlo]

What ive come to realize AJ, which I have suspected for awhile now, is I no longer have the time, energy or interest in Mafia. Its simply not fun anymore, which makes engaging and caring all the more difficult. Throw in the... oddities for lack of a better word and its hard to want to check the thread.

 

*shrug*

 

23 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

He didn’t claim to have turned Town. He claimed to be unaligned with the ability to take someone’s opposite alignment when he kills them. Hence the Sooh kill last Night. That’s not any sort of proof?

Also, no, its not. Sorry I don't trust outted 3ps regardless of what they claim. His end-claim was "I am/will be town tomorrow and it will be confirmed". Its not confirmed and I still dont think hes town.

[Andrej]

I’m sorry to hear that Len, genuinely dude.

 

Lets lynch BG and be done with it then. Maybe tomorrow can be a different Day. He said he would turn the opposite alignment of whoever he killed, so he shot Sooh thinking she’d flip Mafia and he would become Town. That’s the crux of it. The shot went thru but someone reversed the NKs or I’d be dead too.

 

I don’t particularly trust many atp and Ley makes me especially jumpy.

 

Vote: BG

[Andrej]

16 minutes ago, Leyrann said:

Okay, whatever you say.

 

Interested in the why though.

 

You’re playing follow the leader with whatever wagon is biggest.

[Leyrann]

9 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

You’re playing follow the leader with whatever wagon is biggest.

 

That's why I voted BG...

 

Oh, wait, I refused that the entire day.

[Leyrann]

And I may be remembering wrong (the game is going pretty fast and I only barely caught up) but I'm pretty sure I didn't have it on the big train D1 either.

 

So yeah, selective memory much?

[Andrej]

3 minutes ago, Leyrann said:

And I may be remembering wrong (the game is going pretty fast and I only barely caught up) but I'm pretty sure I didn't have it on the big train D1 either.

 

So yeah, selective memory much?

 

You literally went from Nyn to Len in the past 12 hours. But yeah, I’m making that up.

[Leyrann]

3 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

You literally went from Nyn to Len in the past 12 hours. But yeah, I’m making that up.

 

Yes I did.

 

Part of that is me not liking Len in the discussion today, and liking the posts Nyn made (though, once again, I want to see more there, much more), part of it is wanting to get that huge train that we've been talking about, see if that helps in getting the lynch through.

 

So if you think there's something wrong with that, please explain me because I'm not seeing it.

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Vote Count 3.4

 

BG: DPR, AJ

DPR: Eddie, EP

No Lynch: BG

Nyn: Shad,

Lenlo: Nyn, Nyn, Ley, Lenlo

 

Not voting (4/13): Kat, Hally, ArieSooh, Krak

 

 

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