The Mafia Parable: Basic Game OVER

[Nynaeve]

 

As many times as we have been Hydra together, I'm confident in my read.

Have you two been hyraed as mafia recently? I remember despos abba game, but that was three years ago.

 

...aaaand now I feel old

 

 

We were town. We got NKed. We subbed back into a scum slot and I left her to play that role solo.

[RandA lThor]

Shitsure - I don't have anyone I think is guaranteed scum, or even LIKELY to be. I have a few people I feel pretty strongly aren't (Verb, Rand) and a few I'm less confident on (Nyn, Ben, maybe LZM?).

 

Everyone else is fair game at this point.

 

 

@ben and @hallia who are your top scumspect if any?

At the moment I'd say -

 

Nyn is. Because I've played many games with her, and her tone is dead on her scum one where's she is largely facetious, and kinda snappy. When she's town she tends to be more serious irt game play. That's my gut feels atm.

I don't remember the last time I played eith Nyn as scum, but this seems awful. Where have you seen her be that way in past scum games? And when hasn't she been snippy as town?

 

I remember one game she was heavily suspected as scum (and she was), because she was being too friendly and fun. She wasn't being aggressive. I'm not prepared to say that she's a raging psychopath as town and Mother Theresa as scum, but snippy and sarcastic is not a scumtell for her at all IMO

 

I agree with this strongly honestly, Nyn is always like this, and if she wasn't I'd be very confused 

 

 

 

 

 

Caught up, or at least read up. Massive head ache this morning.

 

Still not liking Adella's posting, and her explaining better than Hallia is only a very minor point in her favor I feel, because I think she would be good at explaining herself even as scum.

Feeling pretty good about LZM and Nyn so far. Probably also Verb. Neutral on pretty much everyone else, though I will say that that mess which was a DPR post above here in blue is making me think he's towny.

Unfortunately this makes me feel even less good about Sooh. I want you to be town so bad! Idk if that is happening here...

 

 

Felt the same way. TownSooh provides teh reasons, no? 

 

 

 

So, something I've been thinking about. With this setup, town can essentially win in one night if the vigs don't crossfire and all hit scum. While that is not likely, especially N1, I'd like to submit the POTENTIAL IDEA that maybe if a vig plans on taking a shot on any given night, they call it out as to not cross shots with another vig.

 

Just a thought, and not something I'm saying we need to do......but I'd like to discuss the potential pitfalls and merits.

That's an awesome way to get the Vigs killed or for mafia to cover their tracks by claiming vig.

 

 

Once a vig shoots, they are VT anyway.  I'm saying call your shots so we don't have vig #1 and vig #2 both shooting the same person.  If that person was mafia, then we wasted a vig shot.  If there were 2 townies, then I'd agree calling the shot was a bad idea as we then effectively save a townie by allowing a vig to make a mistake and not get penalized for it.

 

C'mon folks, look deeper into the idea.

 

 

Remember how you almost lost last game for Town? Yeah, let's not do a mass Vig reveal on D1. Kthanx.

 

 

Please read the posts, Wes.  You're harping on INCORRECT INFORMATION.  Good God I even bolded it for you.  Like, I know you want to just tunnel on me and refute every post I make, but please just read posts before firing back.  I said "if a vig plans on taking a shot, call your shot so other vigs don't cross-fire".

 

I then asked for discussion on the pros and cons - I did not say we should do this.  Again, I spelled that out as well.

 

At this point, your entire premise this game is borderline absurd.  Stop cherry picking what you want out of my posts and read the whole damn thing.  And last game?  You, a VT, tunneled on my Miller claim all game.  Town believed me, you didn't, and you made it a distraction the entire time......so much so that we needed to lynch you just to stop the madness.  Then Nyn and I proceeded to just win the game.

 

 

 

Look, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to question why you're encouraging vig talk on D1. You can say it's to prevent crossfire, but are you really that concerned with everybody shooting N1? Seems like they'd want to wait until they had at least a little info to go on before wasting those shots?  On the other hand, by getting the conversation going, it turns into a fishing expedition and a sharp eye might be able to pick a vig off. If that vig holsters, we'll lose the shot. 

 

Me, I'm for trusting the shooters. Everybody here knows how to play the game. 

 

And I'll bet that even you can admit that the setup last game was one of the scum heaviest ever. Miller is a great claim to hide under as scum and by endgame, there was no reason whatsoever to think that a Miller was included. 

 

Tbf DPR, he encouraged discussion, and strictly said its not something we should do yet, and said it was a potential idea, and said it was just a thought, like idk how he could've been clearer about his intentions.

 

I do agree with you that starting talking about who might have vig shots, etc. is too risky to do rn

 

As many times as we have been Hydra together, I'm confident in my read.

 

I don't see it Hally, and tbh Clov and Verbal not seeing it make me feel even stronger about that.

 

 

 

As many times as we have been Hydra together, I'm confident in my read.

Have you two been hyraed as mafia recently? I remember despos abba game, but that was three years ago.

 

...aaaand now I feel old

 

 

Omg omg, no wait I think I remember that game too!  And lol RIP, this is like the only time I can ever say I feel old :P

[Clovdyx]

 

 

As many times as we have been Hydra together, I'm confident in my read.

Have you two been hyraed as mafia recently? I remember despos abba game, but that was three years ago.

 

...aaaand now I feel old

We were town. We got NKed. We subbed back into a scum slot and I left her to play that role solo.

Did you not sub back in? I know I copped her after you left but was thinking you both came back in briefly before she went solo.

[Hallia]

 

As many times as we have been Hydra together, I'm confident in my read.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and if you're town? Then you have clearly learned nothing via hydraing with me.

I believe I am, so we're at an impasse. I have every idea of what I'm talking about.

[Nynaeve]

 

 

 

As many times as we have been Hydra together, I'm confident in my read.

Have you two been hyraed as mafia recently? I remember despos abba game, but that was three years ago.

 

...aaaand now I feel old

We were town. We got NKed. We subbed back into a scum slot and I left her to play that role solo.

Did you not sub back in? I know I copped her after you left but was thinking you both came back in briefly before she went solo.

 

 

I just remember I didn't really want to sub back in in the first place... was also down cause a lot of my reads were wrong and I didn't want to keep playing. I don't remember if I actually posted much or not.

[DPR]

DPR - I don't understand how your point about Rand is scummy at all. I've played with the guy, so it's not like he hasn't been around for a decade, and even if he had...so what?

 

 

To keep everything in context, It's D1 and I don't think anyone is claiming to be certain about anything at this point. 

 

Rand pinged me with his chat - it struck me as having a nervous tone and I didn't buy his claim that he forgot DM's rules. Just seemed like a weird thing to say, like scum trying to fit in, so I mentioned it. 

 

At this point, he's in my top 3 for scum. We'll see what happens when the info starts coming in. 

[Hallia]

You have town read me every single game we've played together, regardless of your alignment and I think it's pretty obvious why you're choosing to scum read me this game.

Probably because I feel you're scum in this game.

[Nynaeve]

 

 

As many times as we have been Hydra together, I'm confident in my read.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and if you're town? Then you have clearly learned nothing via hydraing with me.

I believe I am, so we're at an impasse. I have every idea of what I'm talking about.

 

 

Keep spinning. Atp I don't even care what your alignment is, cause I'd be happy to see you out of the game either way.

[Clovdyx]

I'm pretty sure you weren't in that game, Rand. Nyn, hallia, verb, me...think that's it from this line up.

[Nynaeve]

 

You have town read me every single game we've played together, regardless of your alignment and I think it's pretty obvious why you're choosing to scum read me this game.

Probably because I feel you're scum in this game.

 

 

probably cause you ARE scum.

[Nynaeve]

notice that she wasn't bothered by me or breathed a word on me up until I started pushing her.

[Nynaeve]

Also you're effectively going on ignore. Goodbye.

[Nynaeve]

I'm pretty sure you weren't in that game, Rand. Nyn, hallia, verb, me...think that's it from this line up.

 

Longest game in the history of DM

[Nynaeve]

or at least it felt that way lol

[Clovdyx]

 

DPR - I don't understand how your point about Rand is scummy at all. I've played with the guy, so it's not like he hasn't been around for a decade, and even if he had...so what?

 

To keep everything in context, It's D1 and I don't think anyone is claiming to be certain about anything at this point.

 

Rand pinged me with his chat - it struck me as having a nervous tone and I didn't buy his claim that he forgot DM's rules. Just seemed like a weird thing to say, like scum trying to fit in, so I mentioned it.

 

At this point, he's in my top 3 for scum. We'll see what happens when the info starts coming in.

I meant town clearing vs. Scum hunting. Speaking personally, I don't see how someone can do one and not yhe other, but that's a dead horse atp... I just don't see it meaning anything for his alignment

[Hallia]

Productive.

[Hallia]

 

 

You have town read me every single game we've played together, regardless of your alignment and I think it's pretty obvious why you're choosing to scum read me this game.

Probably because I feel you're scum in this game.

probably cause you ARE scum.

I'm town this game. Sorreh

[Nynaeve]

Sooh where did ya go???

[Sooh]

 

Caught up, or at least read up. Massive head ache this morning.

 

Still not liking Adella's posting, and her explaining better than Hallia is only a very minor point in her favor I feel, because I think she would be good at explaining herself even as scum.

Feeling pretty good about LZM and Nyn so far. Probably also Verb. Neutral on pretty much everyone else, though I will say that that mess which was a DPR post above here in blue is making me think he's towny.

Unfortunately this makes me feel even less good about Sooh. I want you to be town so bad! Idk if that is happening here...

 

You WANT me to be town?

 

Which part makes you feel not good about me?

[Clovdyx]

notice that she wasn't bothered by me or breathed a word on me up until I started pushing her.

I FEEL this is incorrect, but I'm on my phone with a needle in my vein. I'll try toremember to check when i get home

[Nynaeve]

 

notice that she wasn't bothered by me or breathed a word on me up until I started pushing her.

I FEEL this is incorrect, but I'm on my phone with a needle in my vein. I'll try toremember to check when i get home

 

 

go ahead

[Clovdyx]

Hi Sooh <3

[Sooh]

 

 

So, something I've been thinking about. With this setup, town can essentially win in one night if the vigs don't crossfire and all hit scum. While that is not likely, especially N1, I'd like to submit the POTENTIAL IDEA that maybe if a vig plans on taking a shot on any given night, they call it out as to not cross shots with another vig.

 

Just a thought, and not something I'm saying we need to do......but I'd like to discuss the potential pitfalls and merits.

That's an awesome way to get the Vigs killed or for mafia to cover their tracks by claiming vig.

 

 

Once a vig shoots, they are VT anyway.  I'm saying call your shots so we don't have vig #1 and vig #2 both shooting the same person.  If that person was mafia, then we wasted a vig shot.  If there were 2 townies, then I'd agree calling the shot was a bad idea as we then effectively save a townie by allowing a vig to make a mistake and not get penalized for it.

 

C'mon folks, look deeper into the idea.

 

Are you talking about calling out "IF I'm a vig I'm shooting x"?

[Sooh]

Hi Sooh <3

Hi. Catching up. I feel a bit better now fortunately :D

[Nynaeve]

sure she gets a heart...