The Mafia Parable: Basic Game OVER

[Shitsure Kamimashita]

There were 3 people on my wagon at one point - I multiquoted them all and said that I think one of them is likely scum.  Did you happen to see that post?

 

I did say three quick votes yes, but I specifically explained that the operative word is "three".  At this point, you're just arguing semantics for ?? reasons, so let me know if you have a specific point you'd like to make and I'll be happy to discuss it with you.

 

I mean, saying one of three is scum doesn't sound like I "haven't objected to anyone on my wagon", unless you are saying me calling one of them scum is not an objection.  Please clarify so I can help complete your understanding.

  

That was a whole lot of words you posted, but I'm not really sure what your overall point is.  If your bottom line is you think I'm scum for ABC reasons, please list them (if you want to) and I'll respond.  If you think I'm town for XYZ reasons, then *high-five* and thanks!

Yes and no. Yes I saw your say one the the three people on your wagon is scum like adella repeated But no I dont think it rises to the level of calling someone out. I could just as easily make the statment that one person who posted on page one is scum. I'm calling out people on page 1 but not actually pursuing anything if I dont analyze and explain my thought process. The whole "semantics" thing matters because you dont get to say what matters. I know you said three I was there. I know you bolded it. but I still cant get it out of my head. Why bother saying quick votes if the speed is irrelevant.

 

And that is what I am trying to figure out.

[Shitsure Kamimashita]

Okay, caught up to where I actually entered the thread.  Did everybody get really drunk before this game started?  There is zero percent chance any experienced player should have genuinely thought Verb was at risk of getting lynched with three very obvious joke votes a few hours into the game.  Sooh is absolutely in the right that him saying "one of these is scum" is over reacting.  I don't know what game's Hallia's been reading, but I don't agree with her take on him at all.

 

DPR arguing rand is scum because he forgot about the profanity rule is laughable, at best.  

 

Sooh's explanation of her vote is ??? to me.  I can't fathom putting THAT much thought into a what's, for all intents and purposes, a completely meaningless vote.

 

 

 

Nyn's the only one making sense to me, but I guess Verb looks goodish for trying to make sense of Sooh?

So who is scum?

[Shitsure Kamimashita]

 

It's more "post what catches my attention ATM" kinda list. I'm on mobile. It's the only way I can do this. I'm fixing to recap and post a reads list, after I finish this forty. And mebbe cook up a pot pie.

 

 

 

So it's the Verb school of "I'm serious, except when I'm not serious and I go with what catches my eye. Wink" school of thought. 

 

Awesome. 

 

After you and Marie Callander get it together, come back and try to make sense.

how is it any different than what you or anyone else is doing dpr? Because that sounds a lot like what I do.

[Shitsure Kamimashita]

@ben and @hallia who are your top scumspect if any?

[Adella]

@Adella

 

If I'm tunneling on you, only picking and choosing what I want to see, what evidence do you have to show to convince me otherwise?

I see this request, I'm not ignoring it, but that is more quoting than I'm willing to do from my phone lol. I will get on my desktop tonight.

[DPR]

 

 

It's more "post what catches my attention ATM" kinda list. I'm on mobile. It's the only way I can do this. I'm fixing to recap and post a reads list, after I finish this forty. And mebbe cook up a pot pie.

 

 

So it's the Verb school of "I'm serious, except when I'm not serious and I go with what catches my eye. Wink" school of thought.

 

Awesome.

 

After you and Marie Callander get it together, come back and try to make sense.

how is it any different than what you or anyone else is doing dpr? Because that sounds a lot like what I do.

Just asking why logic that applies to one person doesn't apply to another. That he did it doesn't trouble me. That one person is called out. It another skates is of concern.

[DPR]

Anyone else care that after a long hiatus, Rand has switched to town clearing vs. scum hunting?

[Hallia]

@ben and @hallia who are your top scumspect if any?

At the moment I'd say - 

 

Nyn is.  Because I've played many games with her, and her tone is dead on her scum one where's she is largely facetious, and kinda snappy.  When she's town she tends to be more serious irt game play.  That's my gut feels atm.

[Hallia]

Actually before I leave for work I'll

 

 

Vote: Nyn

[Nynaeve]

 

@ben and @hallia who are your top scumspect if any?

At the moment I'd say - 

 

Nyn is.  Because I've played many games with her, and her tone is dead on her scum one where's she is largely facetious, and kinda snappy.  When she's town she tends to be more serious irt game play.  That's my gut feels atm.

 

 

lol pathetic

[Nynaeve]

Actually before I leave for work I'll

 

 

Vote: Nyn

 

yeah, good luck with that

[Nynaeve]

FYI my tone towards you has nothing to do with the game, and you know it. But hey, if you want to use it to further yourself in the game... go right ahead. We'll see how far it gets you.

[Hallia]

 

@ben and @hallia who are your top scumspect if any?

At the moment I'd say - 

 

Nyn is.  Because I've played many games with her, and her tone is dead on her scum one where's she is largely facetious, and kinda snappy.  When she's town she tends to be more serious irt game play.  That's my gut feels atm.

 

What about you? :)

[Hallia]

Anyone else care that after a long hiatus, Rand has switched to town clearing vs. scum hunting?

 

 

To be honest, I think I like his newer posting.

[Verbal32]

 

 

Caught up, or at least read up. Massive head ache this morning.

 

Still not liking Adella's posting, and her explaining better than Hallia is only a very minor point in her favor I feel, because I think she would be good at explaining herself even as scum.

Feeling pretty good about LZM and Nyn so far. Probably also Verb. Neutral on pretty much everyone else, though I will say that that mess which was a DPR post above here in blue is making me think he's towny.

Unfortunately this makes me feel even less good about Sooh. I want you to be town so bad! Idk if that is happening here...

 

 

Felt the same way. TownSooh provides teh reasons, no? 

 

 

 

So, something I've been thinking about. With this setup, town can essentially win in one night if the vigs don't crossfire and all hit scum. While that is not likely, especially N1, I'd like to submit the POTENTIAL IDEA that maybe if a vig plans on taking a shot on any given night, they call it out as to not cross shots with another vig.

 

Just a thought, and not something I'm saying we need to do......but I'd like to discuss the potential pitfalls and merits.

That's an awesome way to get the Vigs killed or for mafia to cover their tracks by claiming vig.

 

 

Once a vig shoots, they are VT anyway.  I'm saying call your shots so we don't have vig #1 and vig #2 both shooting the same person.  If that person was mafia, then we wasted a vig shot.  If there were 2 townies, then I'd agree calling the shot was a bad idea as we then effectively save a townie by allowing a vig to make a mistake and not get penalized for it.

 

C'mon folks, look deeper into the idea.

 

 

Remember how you almost lost last game for Town? Yeah, let's not do a mass Vig reveal on D1. Kthanx.

 

 

Please read the posts, Wes.  You're harping on INCORRECT INFORMATION.  Good God I even bolded it for you.  Like, I know you want to just tunnel on me and refute every post I make, but please just read posts before firing back.  I said "if a vig plans on taking a shot, call your shot so other vigs don't cross-fire".

 

I then asked for discussion on the pros and cons - I did not say we should do this.  Again, I spelled that out as well.

 

At this point, your entire premise this game is borderline absurd.  Stop cherry picking what you want out of my posts and read the whole damn thing.  And last game?  You, a VT, tunneled on my Miller claim all game.  Town believed me, you didn't, and you made it a distraction the entire time......so much so that we needed to lynch you just to stop the madness.  Then Nyn and I proceeded to just win the game.

[Nynaeve]

At this point, your entire premise this game is borderline absurd.  Stop cherry picking what you want out of my posts and read the whole damn thing.  And last game?  You, a VT, tunneled on my Miller claim all game.  Town believed me, you didn't, and you made it a distraction the entire time......so much so that we needed to lynch you just to stop the madness.  Then Nyn and I proceeded to just win the game.

^^

[Verbal32]

My proposal is NOT a mass reveal and does NOT waste shots.

[Hallia]

Shitsure climbing up the ladder as well, I'd put into light green territory

[Nynaeve]

Sushi is great so far

[Verbal32]

If there are out of game "things" going on, let's not bring them into this game.  I love you all, and want us to get along and have a fun time shooting each other in the face, lol.

 

This message is for everybody.

[Shitsure Kamimashita]

 

 

@ben and @hallia who are your top scumspect if any?

 

At the moment I'd say - 

 

Nyn is.  Because I've played many games with her, and her tone is dead on her scum one where's she is largely facetious, and kinda snappy.  When she's town she tends to be more serious irt game play.  That's my gut feels atm.

What about you? :)

I am trying to narrow it down rn.

 

I am looking at ben, yourself, adella, and maybe verbal,

 

Also weird reaction from one vote nyn.

[Hallia]

If you're trying to get a non-game related reaction out of me, Nynaeve, it's not going to work.  I simply don't care enough.  Please focus on the game at hand.

[Nynaeve]

If there are out of game "things" going on, let's not bring them into this game.  I love you all, and want us to get along and have a fun time shooting each other in the face, lol.

 

This message is for everybody.

 

Too late

[Nynaeve]

If you're trying to get a non-game related reaction out of me, Nynaeve, it's not going to work.  I simply don't care enough.  Please focus on the game at hand.

 

don't tell me what to do

[Hallia]

If there are out of game "things" going on, let's not bring them into this game.  I love you all, and want us to get along and have a fun time shooting each other in the face, lol.

 

This message is for everybody.

Thank you sir.