Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[bopolis]

Finally home.

 

Sooh - do you care if I answer Spades's question about why you're very likely town?  

[MrsClov]

SpadesBop can come sit on the townie beanbag chairs, as far as I'm concerned. They both seem to be putting a ton of effort into reading everyone and what they're saying makes a lot of sense. 

[MrsClov]

 

Finally home.

 

Sooh - do you care if I answer Spades's question about why you're very likely town?  

 

Clov has another wife? That jerk. 

[bopolis]

SpadesBop can come sit on the townie beanbag chairs, as far as I'm concerned. They both seem to be putting a ton of effort into reading everyone and what they're saying makes a lot of sense. 

[Clovdyx]

All of the wives.

[Spadeszee]

 

 

Finally home.

 

Sooh - do you care if I answer Spades's question about why you're very likely town?  

 

Clov has another wife? That jerk. 

 

Between Cory's bubble baths and girly drinks, I think it might be him :P

[Sooh]

Finally home.

 

Sooh - do you care if I answer Spades's question about why you're very likely town?  

Go ahead.

[bopolis]

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

Finally home.

 

Sooh - do you care if I answer Spades's question about why you're very likely town?  

 

Clov has another wife? That jerk. 

 

Between Cory's bubble baths and girly drinks, I think it might be him :P

 

Silly, Spades. I was already counting Cory. 

[Ironeyes]

 

Alright, I've had enough time to get opinions on most players.

 

• Cory/Clov- Really unsure of these two. Cory is showing his village game by trying to step in a keep everyone calm and relaxed. Now that he’s free to devote more time to this, I’m excited to see what he’s going to contribute. Chris is about as Chris as I expect Chris to play. Probably going to rely on Bop to help me with a clearer read on him. So far every feels OKAY about these two and I’m not really getting bad vibes so far. But, they are both very experienced players and I can see them fooling all of us.

 

• Sooh- Seems to be very confident in herself this game, bold and not willing to take anyone's nonsense. Getting more of a villager read from her, but that won’t stop me from questioning her actions. When I do question she responds quickly and passionately and I really like that. Her actions don't seem to have alternate motives.

 

• Eldrick- Last game I read Eldrick as a wolf all game long. I’m not getting those vibes from him. My main issue for this is that he is agreeing with most of what I’m saying, I’m not sure if it’s because we’re on the same page or if he doesn’t want the heat I consistently gave him last game. Laying low or something like that. I will clarify in saying he was a villager last game but didn’t do anything to prevent a potential mislynch on himself multiple times. Last game he seemed to be pretty bold and had his own really interesting ideas, I’m not seeing that from him this match so far. I’m keeping him neutral for now.

 

• Zander- Right now I am worried about tunneling. There is a lot of content between our last conversation and now and he’s had zero input on any of it, just tipping back to having to back off from us. Maybe he’s just really confident that he found a wolf in us, or just frustrated nobody took to his side. I’m hoping to see him look into more people than just us to show he’s trying to solve this game, not just prove a narrative he’s stuck on. Everyone is Town reading him, but until I see him doing some actual work to help progress this game I have to put him in neutral.

 

• Cuthalion- Not looking hot for Cuth. Cory said he was busy, but I would really like to hear it from him, not just word of mouth. (Who knows, it could have been in wolf chat :P) Zero content, but we still have another day, so we’ll see. Neutral with easy wolf tilt if we see nothing.

 

• Linz-  Clear and really helping me a lot this game, thank you for answering my questions! <3

 

• Darth- No idea with Darth. I will say he seems to be playing differently from the last game I was in, where he was a wolf, but that doesn’t give me much confidence considering Cory was sure last game was his Town play xD I see him making some content and comments, but nothing really stands out to me. I don’t get a genuine vibe from him so much, but I could be reading into nothing. Going to have to be Neutral for now.

 

• Ted Bundy- This guy kinda popped in, stirred the pot then left. Nothing from him today, no reads or thoughts of any kind. Got a bad feelings about this one so he has a wolf tilt from me for lack of game solving, care or involvement.

 

• Ironeyes-  Seems to be trying to catch up, now I hope that they start to really interact with everyone and don’t just read the thread, make a few responses and then leave. I see them focusing on Scruffington a little (which may be an easy deflection to divert attention away from them) None of which really contributed in my opinion. I don’t really have a read on them yet, hope they become much more active tonight and tomorrow. Not enough to lean either way for me so I only have neutral.

 

• Aquilla- Where did you go? You posted a tiny bit then left? I don’t know if maybe they forgot about the game or what? They seemed slightly enthused about playing so I’m really unsure as to why they would just leave without any explanation. I kinda want a wolf tilt on this one just because I’ve been told inactive wolfs do this sometimes. Maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t like it.

 

• Scruffington- I really want to wait for Scruffington to come back and make some responses and answer a few questions before I try to determine alignment. Right now it reads bad that they had a finger pointed at them and left when it got a little hot. I can only really base my thoughts off how I respond to heat in that I generally don’t care, my job is to find wolfs not prove myself a villager, but I also don’t act without an amount of conviction. The random vote stands out because they have contributed nothing else.

 

 

 

Just for the sake of understanding you, are these in any particular order? 

 

I'm afraid I'll probably disappoint you as far as activity goes, since my standard amount of activity is about where I am now. Thread Leader isn't my style. I will, however, try my best to contribute meaningfully and solve the game. Including making a list of my own in a minute or two here. 

 

listies listies i can do listies too! (each group in no particular order)

 

VVV

mrsclov

 

v-lean

sooh

eld

 

kinda v-lean

cory/clov

iron

darthe

 

no idea but y'all seem to be cool with him

Zander

 

the rest

ted bundy

cuth

aquilla

scruff

#raisins?

[MrsClov]

I should probably update my notes and give thoughts and stuff. Yeah?

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

 

Finally home.

 

Sooh - do you care if I answer Spades's question about why you're very likely town?  

 

Clov has another wife? That jerk. 

 

Between Cory's bubble baths and girly drinks, I think it might be him :P

 

Silly, Spades. I was already counting Cory. 

 

 

 

 

Alright, I've had enough time to get opinions on most players.

 

• Cory/Clov- Really unsure of these two. Cory is showing his village game by trying to step in a keep everyone calm and relaxed. Now that he’s free to devote more time to this, I’m excited to see what he’s going to contribute. Chris is about as Chris as I expect Chris to play. Probably going to rely on Bop to help me with a clearer read on him. So far every feels OKAY about these two and I’m not really getting bad vibes so far. But, they are both very experienced players and I can see them fooling all of us.

 

• Sooh- Seems to be very confident in herself this game, bold and not willing to take anyone's nonsense. Getting more of a villager read from her, but that won’t stop me from questioning her actions. When I do question she responds quickly and passionately and I really like that. Her actions don't seem to have alternate motives.

 

• Eldrick- Last game I read Eldrick as a wolf all game long. I’m not getting those vibes from him. My main issue for this is that he is agreeing with most of what I’m saying, I’m not sure if it’s because we’re on the same page or if he doesn’t want the heat I consistently gave him last game. Laying low or something like that. I will clarify in saying he was a villager last game but didn’t do anything to prevent a potential mislynch on himself multiple times. Last game he seemed to be pretty bold and had his own really interesting ideas, I’m not seeing that from him this match so far. I’m keeping him neutral for now.

 

• Zander- Right now I am worried about tunneling. There is a lot of content between our last conversation and now and he’s had zero input on any of it, just tipping back to having to back off from us. Maybe he’s just really confident that he found a wolf in us, or just frustrated nobody took to his side. I’m hoping to see him look into more people than just us to show he’s trying to solve this game, not just prove a narrative he’s stuck on. Everyone is Town reading him, but until I see him doing some actual work to help progress this game I have to put him in neutral.

 

• Cuthalion- Not looking hot for Cuth. Cory said he was busy, but I would really like to hear it from him, not just word of mouth. (Who knows, it could have been in wolf chat :P) Zero content, but we still have another day, so we’ll see. Neutral with easy wolf tilt if we see nothing.

 

• Linz-  Clear and really helping me a lot this game, thank you for answering my questions! <3

 

• Darth- No idea with Darth. I will say he seems to be playing differently from the last game I was in, where he was a wolf, but that doesn’t give me much confidence considering Cory was sure last game was his Town play xD I see him making some content and comments, but nothing really stands out to me. I don’t get a genuine vibe from him so much, but I could be reading into nothing. Going to have to be Neutral for now.

 

• Ted Bundy- This guy kinda popped in, stirred the pot then left. Nothing from him today, no reads or thoughts of any kind. Got a bad feelings about this one so he has a wolf tilt from me for lack of game solving, care or involvement.

 

• Ironeyes-  Seems to be trying to catch up, now I hope that they start to really interact with everyone and don’t just read the thread, make a few responses and then leave. I see them focusing on Scruffington a little (which may be an easy deflection to divert attention away from them) None of which really contributed in my opinion. I don’t really have a read on them yet, hope they become much more active tonight and tomorrow. Not enough to lean either way for me so I only have neutral.

 

• Aquilla- Where did you go? You posted a tiny bit then left? I don’t know if maybe they forgot about the game or what? They seemed slightly enthused about playing so I’m really unsure as to why they would just leave without any explanation. I kinda want a wolf tilt on this one just because I’ve been told inactive wolfs do this sometimes. Maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t like it.

 

• Scruffington- I really want to wait for Scruffington to come back and make some responses and answer a few questions before I try to determine alignment. Right now it reads bad that they had a finger pointed at them and left when it got a little hot. I can only really base my thoughts off how I respond to heat in that I generally don’t care, my job is to find wolfs not prove myself a villager, but I also don’t act without an amount of conviction. The random vote stands out because they have contributed nothing else.

 

 

 

Just for the sake of understanding you, are these in any particular order? 

 

I'm afraid I'll probably disappoint you as far as activity goes, since my standard amount of activity is about where I am now. Thread Leader isn't my style. I will, however, try my best to contribute meaningfully and solve the game. Including making a list of my own in a minute or two here.  

 

 

They in the order in which I copy pasted them off the front page :P

 

Just looking for your thoughts on things, not top contributor. Looking forward to your reads list :)

[Spadeszee]

Oh, it tossed the other bit in too xD

 

I was going to say, Linz, I know you're a capable woman, but do I need to cut him for you? I'll do it!

[bopolis]

 

 

Alright, I've had enough time to get opinions on most players.

 

• Cory/Clov- Really unsure of these two. Cory is showing his village game by trying to step in a keep everyone calm and relaxed. Now that he’s free to devote more time to this, I’m excited to see what he’s going to contribute. Chris is about as Chris as I expect Chris to play. Probably going to rely on Bop to help me with a clearer read on him. So far every feels OKAY about these two and I’m not really getting bad vibes so far. But, they are both very experienced players and I can see them fooling all of us.

 

• Sooh- Seems to be very confident in herself this game, bold and not willing to take anyone's nonsense. Getting more of a villager read from her, but that won’t stop me from questioning her actions. When I do question she responds quickly and passionately and I really like that. Her actions don't seem to have alternate motives.

 

• Eldrick- Last game I read Eldrick as a wolf all game long. I’m not getting those vibes from him. My main issue for this is that he is agreeing with most of what I’m saying, I’m not sure if it’s because we’re on the same page or if he doesn’t want the heat I consistently gave him last game. Laying low or something like that. I will clarify in saying he was a villager last game but didn’t do anything to prevent a potential mislynch on himself multiple times. Last game he seemed to be pretty bold and had his own really interesting ideas, I’m not seeing that from him this match so far. I’m keeping him neutral for now.

 

• Zander- Right now I am worried about tunneling. There is a lot of content between our last conversation and now and he’s had zero input on any of it, just tipping back to having to back off from us. Maybe he’s just really confident that he found a wolf in us, or just frustrated nobody took to his side. I’m hoping to see him look into more people than just us to show he’s trying to solve this game, not just prove a narrative he’s stuck on. Everyone is Town reading him, but until I see him doing some actual work to help progress this game I have to put him in neutral.

 

• Cuthalion- Not looking hot for Cuth. Cory said he was busy, but I would really like to hear it from him, not just word of mouth. (Who knows, it could have been in wolf chat :P) Zero content, but we still have another day, so we’ll see. Neutral with easy wolf tilt if we see nothing.

 

• Linz-  Clear and really helping me a lot this game, thank you for answering my questions! <3

 

• Darth- No idea with Darth. I will say he seems to be playing differently from the last game I was in, where he was a wolf, but that doesn’t give me much confidence considering Cory was sure last game was his Town play xD I see him making some content and comments, but nothing really stands out to me. I don’t get a genuine vibe from him so much, but I could be reading into nothing. Going to have to be Neutral for now.

 

• Ted Bundy- This guy kinda popped in, stirred the pot then left. Nothing from him today, no reads or thoughts of any kind. Got a bad feelings about this one so he has a wolf tilt from me for lack of game solving, care or involvement.

 

• Ironeyes-  Seems to be trying to catch up, now I hope that they start to really interact with everyone and don’t just read the thread, make a few responses and then leave. I see them focusing on Scruffington a little (which may be an easy deflection to divert attention away from them) None of which really contributed in my opinion. I don’t really have a read on them yet, hope they become much more active tonight and tomorrow. Not enough to lean either way for me so I only have neutral.

 

• Aquilla- Where did you go? You posted a tiny bit then left? I don’t know if maybe they forgot about the game or what? They seemed slightly enthused about playing so I’m really unsure as to why they would just leave without any explanation. I kinda want a wolf tilt on this one just because I’ve been told inactive wolfs do this sometimes. Maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t like it.

 

• Scruffington- I really want to wait for Scruffington to come back and make some responses and answer a few questions before I try to determine alignment. Right now it reads bad that they had a finger pointed at them and left when it got a little hot. I can only really base my thoughts off how I respond to heat in that I generally don’t care, my job is to find wolfs not prove myself a villager, but I also don’t act without an amount of conviction. The random vote stands out because they have contributed nothing else.

 

 

 

Just for the sake of understanding you, are these in any particular order? 

 

I'm afraid I'll probably disappoint you as far as activity goes, since my standard amount of activity is about where I am now. Thread Leader isn't my style. I will, however, try my best to contribute meaningfully and solve the game. Including making a list of my own in a minute or two here. 

 

listies listies i can do listies too! (each group in no particular order)

 

VVV

mrsclov(the other inno child, me being the second one obviously)

 

v-lean

sooh(liked her early, and have liked her comments/tone. When interacting with zander i was getting a feeling of annoyance/anger from her posts and i don't think it was faked. Also her tone shifts a bit from neutral to the peturbed i already described a few times and i find these tonal shifts villagy especially combines with her comments)

eld-listed early reasons previous, since then liked his questions he asked scruff/darthe(specifically the comment to darthe about his vote being on scruff that i found villagy, also think he's been trying to figure the game out rather than pretend that hes figuring it out)

 

kinda v-lean

cory/clov-tone, minor points for initiative, is giving reads which is more than half the game is doing

iron-tone, is giving some reads

darthe-tone

 

no idea but y'all seem to be cool with him

Zander

 

the rest

ted bundy

cuth

aquilla

scruff

#raisins?

 

 

i anwserd briefly in the above quote next to each person;

 

someone may ask why should i give a slightest of villa cred to someone giving reads; my response is almost half the game has done nothing, and when they finally come to the thread and do something ill stop giving them any credit for having reaads and then evaluate whether I think their reads make sense, original, etc etc etc. Until then though it is what it is.

[Eldrick4221]

Ok. Moving spades (and by association, bop) to town for that reads list. Impressed by the level of development you already have. It screams towny.

 

You're wrong about everyone town reading zander, though. I'm basically exactly where you are. Didn't like the reason for his focus on bop. Looking to see where he goes from here.

[MrsClov]

Oh, it tossed the other bit in too xD

 

I was going to say, Linz, I know you're a capable woman, but do I need to cut him for you? I'll do it!

I like you. I frequently threaten to cut people. 

 

Cory, I approve of your choice of significant other.  Spades is okay too.

[Cory Caboose]

There was once a time where the   called to me.
 
Was it a wistful dream of youth? Was it time that dulled the edges, was it fear, was it an aversion to the scraped knees & elbows that come natural to the scrapper? Or was it an internal distaste for the self-aggrandizement, the braggadocio of a man who demands fanfare - hell, demands a thread event - when he decides to finally contribute and make reads? A man with the ego immense enough to call himself the LeBron James of Mafia - or the Socrates, or the Picasso - despite half of his posts being "glgl". As mafia, as surreptitious as Iago to Othello; as town, a willing Sisyphus. My compatriots would be catching up, twenty pages behind, as I finished my twenty-first reread. Reading every player's ten last games. Comparative ISOs. Getting three hours of sleep... a week.
 
Where did that man go?
 
Did the passion die?
 
But that's not how men work. Passion is an indulgence, a matter of moderation. Overindulgence leads to aversion, discomfort, hesitation... and we know the axiom about those who hesitate. One answer to indulgence is distance, though not a perfect one. In many ways our gratification peaks on first glance - the first time you had your favorite food, the first time you tried an activity you'd end up loving, your first real paycheck. Youth is about more than your distance from conception, it is about your first experiences with what will eventually make up your day-to-day life. 
 
But distance has an impact nonetheless.

"lunch wolves"
 
And I'm not sure when or where I heard it call to me again.
 
"lunch wolves"
 
Perhaps it was just a quiet voice at first I barely heard through the static.
 
"lunch wolves"

But there it was.

"lunch wolves"
 

And I looked down to see it in my hands again.

 

I don't know where this ends,
but this is where I begin.
 

 

 

 

 

lolcory

 

 

 

 

 

[Eldrick4221]

And sleep isn't coming naturally. Time for da drugs.

 

<3 zquil

[Cory Caboose]

Did I write that specifically because Darthe will hate it?

Yes.

 

Absolutely.

[Cory Caboose]

I'll keep the current page open on auto-refresh in case anyone wants to chat, but I have a game to win.

 

glgl

[Darthe]

Don't drop the E off my name spade.

[Eldrick4221]

Did I write that specifically because Darthe will hate it?

 

Yes.

 

Absolutely.

#didntread #toomanywords

[Ironeyes]

KK, here's my list. Color coded and ordered by towniness as usual. Scumreads in light salmon just for you, Zander  

 

Lock town 

Mrs. Clov: IC

Ironeyes: The mod told me so 

 

Solid town 

Spades/Bop: Mostly because of Spades's engagement and obvious WIM 

 

Lean town

Cordyx: Tone read here. Both seem engaged and neither seems manipulative

Derf: Kinda the same as Cordyx. I'd expect scum!Derf to manipulate rather than contribute, as he has been doing 

Eldrick: Meta read. His behavior is similar to the last time I played with town!El (a game in which I completely misread him, much to my chagrin) 

 

Null 

Sooh: Not sure yet, but I think as the game progresses I'll be able to form an opinion on her soon enough. 

Zander: Basically I can't tell if this is town!Zander style tunnelling or scum!Zander faking to draw attention where he wants 

Cuth, Ted, Aquila: Not enough info. 

 

Lean scum

Scruff: That vote and subsequent reaction to being sussed wasn't pretty. 

 

 

So, I'll throw a vote on Scruff for now. We've got almost a day left but I'm comfortable with this train. 

[bopolis]

cory's eyes only

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Clovdyx]

Ted claimed Sailor Venus.  That's inherently null - we know mafia have fake claims, so character claims mean literally nothing this game.

Sooh reacts in a way that expresses doubt/concern?  Why?  Well, probably because she's Sailor Venus.  That was my initial take, and I was even more confident when Sooh essentially told me "Think about it!" when I asked her why she was bringing it up.

 

Okay, that means Ted lied.  So what?  Yeah, it's not pro-town, but is it scummy when we know mafia have safe claims?  He's not going to forego a legitimate safe claim to make a legitimate attempt at character claiming.  Ted might be town.  He might be mafia.  But his post meant nothing, and my expectation is that Sooh would have known that.

 

So I ask her WHY she's questioning it.  Like, what's the point?  She says "think about it"...which implies she believes it's significant.  If she's mafia and has Sailor Venus as a fake claim, nobody else is going to know Ted is lying so bringing it up does nothing.  If she's mafia and doesn't have it as a fake claim, she's not going to know whether he's telling the truth.  If she's Sailor Venus (a character that almost certainly would be town), she's going to have a genuine reaction.

 

 

TL;DR - I think her reaction to his claim, though pointless in terms of HER ability to solve the game, is incredibly genuinely.  And given it's predicated on her being town, that means she almost certainly is.