[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[Nynaeve]

  On 5/1/2017 at 6:16 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 5:05 AM, ed2funy said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 4:00 AM, Zander said:

@Ed

 

If you wanna see me and Lenlo fight read the Matrix game....fyi- Were both Minority Villas in that game....lololololol

 

I thought youd like the dream reference....that was straight up for you my little buttercup.

 

Can you explained the contrived part irt to me and Killa please? Who do you take issue with there me or here or both?!?!?

 

And again these play by plays are pointless without you giving reads man.

 

Just straight up post a reads list with reasoning please!!!!

 

And like I get you may not have a read on everyone but you should have some at least.

More wanted like hello fights. I don't read old games for meta purposes.

 

If you responded about the Dream reference, good. You've been reading. Spoiler tags are just to make scrolling easier.

 

I took issue with you both. It felt fake.

 

Still. Stching up before reads list. #shrugemoji

 

 

 

Ya lets see thats reads list with some reasoning brah

 

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 5:05 AM, Killashandra said:

I was waiting on him to make an actual post with reads. I cant tell with him right at first but I had him pinned mafia day 2 of our last game. He made a big mistake though so unless he does something like that... But there is something he did in that game that he did not do as much in murder mystery as town. I was watching to see if he did it again. He has not yet. I need to go look at another of his scum games to be sure it is an actual tell and not my imagination.

 

Let me know what you come back with irt Ed

 

 

Did she come back to this after ed posted his read list?

[Nynaeve]

  On 5/1/2017 at 9:45 AM, Niniel said:

Killa - her entusiasm does indicate town. I think it´s hard to do that as a first time mafia. But if I should go by what she has written then I would say she is mafia. 

 

Depends on what alignment she favors, really.

[Killashandra]

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Did you answer Nyn's question about why you treated the 2 inactives differently? I didn't see it, but I've been half-watching.

I mostly did. There somethings I wanted to look at before finishing answering.

[Sooh]

Even without ISOing I feel like Z and Nyn are townies.

 

That leaves me with DPR, Killa, Seph and Ed to ISO. 

[Nynaeve]

  On 5/1/2017 at 9:45 AM, Niniel said:

Lenlo - it feels like he voted TLM to have his vote on someone = safe without needing to explain a vote on another player.

 

If I remember right, Lenlo blew himself up once in a game where it was indicated by the mod that saying hastur three times should be done at your own peril. He did it anyhow and went poof xD. So if there's anyone I'd expect to push the envelope irt an unknown factor, it's probably lenlo lol

 

btw, has Lenlo given his top 3? I don't recall it.

[Killashandra]

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:52 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 6:16 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 5:05 AM, ed2funy said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 4:00 AM, Zander said:

@Ed

If you wanna see me and Lenlo fight read the Matrix game....fyi- Were both Minority Villas in that game....lololololol

I thought youd like the dream reference....that was straight up for you my little buttercup.

Can you explained the contrived part irt to me and Killa please? Who do you take issue with there me or here or both?!?!?

And again these play by plays are pointless without you giving reads man.

Just straight up post a reads list with reasoning please!!!!

And like I get you may not have a read on everyone but you should have some at least.

 

More wanted like hello fights. I don't read old games for meta purposes.

If you responded about the Dream reference, good. You've been reading. Spoiler tags are just to make scrolling easier.

I took issue with you both. It felt fake.

Still. Stching up before reads list. #shrugemoji

 

 

Ya lets see thats reads list with some reasoning brah

 

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 5:05 AM, Killashandra said:

I was waiting on him to make an actual post with reads. I cant tell with him right at first but I had him pinned mafia day 2 of our last game. He made a big mistake though so unless he does something like that... But there is something he did in that game that he did not do as much in murder mystery as town. I was watching to see if he did it again. He has not yet. I need to go look at another of his scum games to be sure it is an actual tell and not my imagination.

 

 

Let me know what you come back with irt Ed

 

Did she come back to this after ed posted his read list?

I am now. I thought I may have noticed something about ed while he was scum vs town. But when I went into the data base and tried to check my thought against other scum games of his I found he had taken a break from DM mafia for a long time. So I took a look anyway and I got nothing because his game style for town or scum is very different before his absence and after. So meta from old games is probably pretty useless for him and I could not answer my own theory. Maybe I will keep it in mind though for future games.

[Nynaeve]

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:10 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Imma say that it sounds like somebody is getting info. Beyond that, it's pointless to spec imo.

 

Did you answer Nyn's question about why you treated the 2 inactives differently? I didn't see it, but I've been half-watching. 

 

 

The question was directed at Killa, not Zander

[Sooh]

Ok I'm having trouble focusing. I*ll be back later. 

[Nynaeve]

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:34 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:25 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 5:00 AM, Zander said:

ed/killa/adam if wrong on one maybe throw in Darthe/Tig maybe Nini

 

^^

 

 

PLEASE BE A VILLAGER

 

PLEASE BE A VILLAGER

 

PLEASE BE A VILLAGER

 

 

[Nynaeve]

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:43 PM, ed2funy said:

What is ATP?

 

at this point

[Nynaeve]

  On 5/1/2017 at 2:30 PM, Sooh said:

Ok I'm having trouble focusing. I*ll be back later. 

 

ok ok, I'll put my shirt back on. jeez.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Lenlo (2) - DPR, Niniel

 

Adam (3) - seph, Dice, Killashandra

 

Darthe (1) - Sooh

 

Laughing Man (1) - Lenlo

 

Tigraine (1) - Adam

 

Ed (1) - Zander

 

Not Voting: Darthe, Nynaeve, Tigraine, Ed

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[Sooh]

  On 5/1/2017 at 2:43 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 2:30 PM, Sooh said:

Ok I'm having trouble focusing. I*ll be back later. 

 

ok ok, I'll put my shirt back on. jeez.

 

lol <3

[DPR]

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:43 PM, Lenlo said:

First, on phone.

 

So I wanna point out for DPR, since he is conviently ignoring this fact, I never criticized the TLM spec, I criticized the Cory spec. 2 different things, so don't try to pretend voting TLM is counter to what I've said. It's not.

 

Second, TLM is the/a bad guy in the show Zander. Yeah, he's a less awesome V, but the good guys from this show are in the government (Sector 9 I think) so there's your perspective.

 

I'm trying to block out some time to iso, but until then:

 

This is exactly why my vote is still on you.

 

1. You are not helping to move the game forward - you keep coming back to this point over and over. You need to turn in your reads on everything else in the game.

2. You say "conveniently ignoring this fact", but I'm the one who drew the distinction between speculation on mechanics vs. your "fear-mongering". It's frustrating that others are not seeing this, but you did criticize the conversation over TLM. Then you agreed that speculation over the mechanics could be useful.

3. To your statement regarding that your vote on TLM is not counter to what you did, I point to your statement below:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:49 PM, Lenlo said:

It's possible Shad did his thing and randomized roles between characters so that char claims wouldn't break the game. Also possible he did something similar with TLM and he's a neutral npc role or something.

 

We have no evidence to go off of whether the role is town or wolf or even important

 

4. You did agree with me that mechanics talk was not bad - your point was that fear-mongering was bad. By agreeing that speculation on mechanics is alright, the implication is that TLM/slot#14 does is potentially important to the game.

 

Then you voted it. 

 

That's exactly counter to what you said.

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:59 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 9:45 AM, Niniel said:

Lenlo - it feels like he voted TLM to have his vote on someone = safe without needing to explain a vote on another player.

 

If I remember right, Lenlo blew himself up once in a game where it was indicated by the mod that saying hastur three times should be done at your own peril. He did it anyhow and went poof xD. So if there's anyone I'd expect to push the envelope irt an unknown factor, it's probably lenlo lol

 

btw, has Lenlo given his top 3? I don't recall it.

 

 

 

Okay, but making things go boom is not townie behavior, so I think it's fair to call it out. In this case, I seriously doubt Shad has put in this much buildup to trap 1 player. 

 

All in all, I'm very comfortable with where my vote is.

[DPR]

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:09 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 9:48 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:07 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 7:50 AM, Zander said:

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

 

1. State youre Town please.

 

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

 

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

 

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

 

3. I have.

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 11:39 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

 

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

 

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

 

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

 

 

Interesting.

 

The idea of speculating whether it was Cory in the game had nothing to do with Cory and everything to do with preparing to deal with whatever role TLM does actually play. Who the player is doesn't matter. That it might be a live player vs. a mod device does. 

 

So when Seph voted and then unvoted, it raised that question of it being a trap, especially if its a mod device. I pointed out the information about Cory because I find it a possibility that he might actually play that role - I've run games where I had players post as character before.

 

You calling it fear-mongering is weird... what is there to be afraid of? We know we have the character/player, so spec'ing on what it does seems like a good idea. 

 

Fear-mongering was probably not the most appropriate word, but it seemed good enough to me. I may have misinterpreted the convo, but it seemed to me focused on whether or not Cory the player was actually that role or if he was in the game, and less focused on the mechanics of TLM. If you want to discuss the former, then I think you are fear-mongering about the existence of a player who most believe to be pretty skilled. If the latter, then please do. I encourage it. I think its probably an npc role, the real question is if it is an obvious trick to waste a turn or if its a legit thing we should lynch. I should mention, I believe I was the first person to bring about the idea of TLM being a trap so I have in no way tried to stifle conversation about it.

 

So tl;dr, fear-mongering to me was in reference to the idea that Cory, a skilled and respected player, was in the role because it makes some people very nervous about it. I also think the mention of recruitment, which we have no evidence of, is very likely to sow some discord and distrust in later stages if it is constantly referenced. Dont worry about recruitment until we have a reason to is my motto, otherwise town will tear itself apart.

 

 

 

So, to the bold above:

 

1. You agree with and encourage discussion on the mechanics of TLM. 

2. You think it is probably an NPC role.

3. You pose the question of it being "a trick to waste a turn".

4. Or, it might be "a legit thing we should lynch".

5. You claim you were the first person to mention it might be a trap (in and of itself a form of fear-mongering?).

6. You go on to say that you have, in no way, stifled conversation about it.

 

If you think it's a trap, why vote it? A townie doesn't sacrifice themselves.

 

If you think it's a trick to waste a turn, why vote it? Why waste a turn?

 

Nothing you say is making sense to me. What I see is a subtle push to say "Hey! Don't fear-monger this account! Here, I'll vote it. See? It's fine, it's fine it's fine..." 

 

Gives me the heebie-jeebies like you know something we don't. 

 

No bueno.

[Killashandra]

Ok Nyn sorry it took me awhile to finish your question but I was on my phone and copy pasting or quoting is a pain in the butt. 

 

So when I made a read post awhile back I has said this about Lenlo

 

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Lenlo seems like he is losing his sh*t of TLM thing. He is all over the place with it and now he wants to lynch jist to see what happens. Its kind of amusing actually if you look at just his posts from his profile content search post only. Like a man slowly being driven insane. He is either legit town losing his mind with shads mind tricks. Or he is using it as a way to hide wolf. I cant decide if we lynch him to put him out of misery or keep him and see what he does next. Gun to my head I would not lynch.

 

 

Mostly this was supposed to be a little light hearted or jokey. Similar to DPRs post where he roasted half of us he read. I guess it just did not come off that way for me. My bad. 

 

I was reading the progression of his posts and most of it was all about TLM and how it must be a trap and then finally choosing to vote for it and see what happens. You even mention a game where he blew in self up because of the curiosity. Maybe losing his sh*t was not the best way to say what I meant but he was really focused only on TLM. Not saying everything he said was off base but it was all about TLM, while other players had moved on until more came to light. Reading his posts out in a list just struck me as funny. I have a strange sense of humor that is really hit or miss with people so I am blaming that. I think Ed gets me most of the time though. 

 

So here are his posts mentioning TLM in a row. I guess I cant explain why it made me think what I did or why I thought it was so funny at the time. *shrug* These are also the major majority of his posts over all. Anything I left out was a few jokes and a couple gifs.

 

 

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Ooooo quick hammer laughing man? Or is it a trap?

 

 

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Laughing man is clearly the bad guy, but I refuse to believe its this simple.

 

 

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NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

 

 

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Fear-mongering was probably not the most appropriate word, but it seemed good enough to me. I may have misinterpreted the convo, but it seemed to me focused on whether or not Cory the player was actually that role or if he was in the game, and less focused on the mechanics of TLM. If you want to discuss the former, then I think you are fear-mongering about the existence of a player who most believe to be pretty skilled. If the latter, then please do. I encourage it. I think its probably an npc role, the real question is if it is an obvious trick to waste a turn or if its a legit thing we should lynch. I should mention, I believe I was the first person to bring about the idea of TLM being a trap so I have in no way tried to stifle conversation about it.

 

So tl;dr, fear-mongering to me was in reference to the idea that Cory, a skilled and respected player, was in the role because it makes some people very nervous about it. I also think the mention of recruitment, which we have no evidence of, is very likely to sow some discord and distrust in later stages if it is constantly referenced. Dont worry about recruitment until we have a reason to is my motto, otherwise town will tear itself apart.

 

 

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Vote: The Laughing Man

 

I wanna see what happens.

 

 

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 12:13 AM, Lenlo said:

Ed, we are the best of friends.

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 12:12 AM, seph said:

I'm confused by Leno voting laughing man, surely he HD to notice it since it was literally the discussion for the first 10 pages, well a good 5 or so at least.

I knew you voted LM, I commented on it when you did, I meant I want to see what happens if we lynch him.

 

 

 

Thats all I got on that nyn.

  On 5/1/2017 at 12:13 AM, Lenlo said:

Ed, we are the best of friends.

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 12:12 AM, seph said:

I'm confused by Leno voting laughing man, surely he HD to notice it since it was literally the discussion for the first 10 pages, well a good 5 or so at least.

I knew you voted LM, I commented on it when you did, I meant I want to see what happens if we lynch him.

 

[Killashandra]

whoops I dont know how I repeated that quote on the bottom there. Sorry

[DPR]

ISO: LENLO

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:09 AM, Lenlo said:

Let me tell you, I missed this spam

 

Fluff

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:13 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:12 AM, seph said:

but how are you lenlo? gana get drunk with the rest of us?

A shame, but I dont drink. :P

 

 

Fluff

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:24 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:17 AM, Shad_ said:

One of you is now a deathproof strongman dayvig with unlimited shots

Your not supposed to reveal my role Shad.

 

 

Fluff

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:25 AM, Lenlo said:

Ooooo quick hammer laughing man? Or is it a trap?

 

Speculation on TLM. Will confirm if Lenlo was the first to ask if it was a trap.

 

*He does lead with "quick hammer man?" and then votes the account...

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:25 AM, Lenlo said:

Laughing man is clearly the bad guy, but I refuse to believe its this simple.

 

 

Could be innocent wondering - could be fishing to see if anyone else knows anything abut the source material. What Lenlo does not do is come right out and say he's familiar with the source material. He waited until today to do that.

 

More coming...

[seph]

 

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 11:57 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 11:54 AM, Sooh said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 11:35 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 12:49 PM, Sooh said:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 12:46 PM, Niniel said:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 11:15 AM, Sooh said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 11:11 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 11:08 AM, Sooh said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 10:58 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 10:56 AM, Sooh said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 1:30 AM, seph said:

Sooh should I be worried? Also glad you are back safe and had fun :) but there is only 1 post I like from you off memory, going to reread and see though.

 

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 1:33 AM, Zander said:

Sooh is still a hard read for me tho Ive seen Town!Sooh look much better atp then she looks thus far.  That doesnt make her Scummy by any means atp shes pretty Null to me as of now.

You two are goofs. I have like one or two scum games where I haven't been obv!scum by the end of D1. I don't even know why you're so afraid of me.

 

 

Im not afraid of you at all.

 

I just said I dont read you well and youre null

 

Strange comment/choice of words. 

 

In the "like well its just lil ole me so you dont have to worry about me" kinda sense.

 

Did you read Seph's words?

 

 

I dont care about sephs words, you quoted both of us so it read to me like you thought we both were.  And even so him asking if he should be worried is kinda a typical type comment/post and doesn't necessarily imply fear imo. 

 

OMG Zander. Has anyone ever told you you're too nitpicky? Could it have been a joke based off of Seph's words? You always seem so convinced you're going to "get" people based off of one word choice they make, but how many times have you failed?

 

 

 

 

Agree. 

 

It´s really hard to know what is just "Zander being Zander" and what is scummy. 

 

 

 

Idk, so far I haven't seen anything really scummy from him. It's more that he's nitpicking to the point where it's wasting everyone's time really.

 

 

Strange i feel the same way when i read your posts.

 

Can you explain exactly where I've been nitpicky this game? I'd love to know.

 

 

I just mean about reading your posts being a waste of time really.

 

All i thought was run zander... she is gana kill you...

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:06 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

 

It matches with his past 2 town games. Problem is, it's a really easy style for scum to hide in. 

 

I think its fair to keep pressing him for content. 

 

I would have to disagree with the bold.

[seph]

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:43 PM, ed2funy said:

 

Yes, I've said as much that they were mostly catch up.

In Kaylee's game, he was scum using the same angle to try to Lynch me.

 

What is ATP?

 

would you mind telling me what angle is that?

[seph]

like go into detail for me please

[DPR]

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:31 AM, Lenlo said:

That gif is beautiful

 

Fluff

 

And then we jump forward 9 pages to:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:07 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 7:50 AM, Zander said:

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

 

1. State youre Town please.

 

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

 

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

 

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

 

3. I have.

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 11:39 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

 

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

 

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

 

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

 

 

This is the first fear-mongering post.

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:14 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:09 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:07 PM, Lenlo said:

I think this Cory thing is stupid. 

 

Lenlo channeling his inner Nyn, imo. 

 

I have to say, its a nice place to be

 

 

Fluff

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 5:03 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:52 PM, Zander said:

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:07 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 7:50 AM, Zander said:

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

 

1. State youre Town please.

 

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

 

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

 

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

 

3. I have.

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 11:39 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

 

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

 

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

 

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

 

 

First post- Pretty pretty please with a cherry on top!?!?!?!?

Second post- I agree and like Len's thinking here....OMG wtf is happening to me!??!?!?!

 

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:09 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:07 PM, Lenlo said:

I think this Cory thing is stupid. 

 

Lenlo channeling his inner Nyn, imo. 

 

 

 

Dont you see Zander? In my absence, you have grown weak. I am here to remind you what it means to be GOAT.

 

 

 

Fluff

 

Get ready to jump forward again...

[DPR]

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:00 AM, Lenlo said:

Catching up, Seph dont lie to the girl. We dont have fun here. We just yell at each other until someone gives up and they get lynched.

 

Fluff

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:09 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 9:48 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 4:07 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 7:50 AM, Zander said:

3 things Id like to see from everyone please!!!

 

1. State youre Town please.

 

2. Thoughts on this mysterious Laughing Man thing.

 

3. Has anyone watched the cartoon?

1. Make me.

 

2. NPC, curious if its a trap if we lynch it because its so obvious, or if its the legit way to win the game.

 

3. I have.

 

  On 4/29/2017 at 11:39 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

OoooKay, so in the sign-up thread, the "in" post I was remembering form Cory was #31, which is not an actual "in" so much as an acknowledgement of being listed as in the game.

 

Regardless, dude was signed up to play, then he dropped, then he edited his drop posts. So there's that.

 

Recruitment mention posts incoming.

I think this Cory thing is stupid. We have no reason to believe he is in the game, it was advertised as a 13 or 16p game, which leads me to believe the Laughing Man was going to be in the game regardless of actual player numbers.

 

This argument about whether or not Cory is in the game, when we have no evidence in the actual game only in the signup thread, to support it smells of fear mongering to me.

 

 

Interesting.

 

The idea of speculating whether it was Cory in the game had nothing to do with Cory and everything to do with preparing to deal with whatever role TLM does actually play. Who the player is doesn't matter. That it might be a live player vs. a mod device does. 

 

So when Seph voted and then unvoted, it raised that question of it being a trap, especially if its a mod device. I pointed out the information about Cory because I find it a possibility that he might actually play that role - I've run games where I had players post as character before.

 

You calling it fear-mongering is weird... what is there to be afraid of? We know we have the character/player, so spec'ing on what it does seems like a good idea. 

 

Fear-mongering was probably not the most appropriate word, but it seemed good enough to me. I may have misinterpreted the convo, but it seemed to me focused on whether or not Cory the player was actually that role or if he was in the game, and less focused on the mechanics of TLM. If you want to discuss the former, then I think you are fear-mongering about the existence of a player who most believe to be pretty skilled. If the latter, then please do. I encourage it. I think its probably an npc role, the real question is if it is an obvious trick to waste a turn or if its a legit thing we should lynch. I should mention, I believe I was the first person to bring about the idea of TLM being a trap so I have in no way tried to stifle conversation about it.

 

So tl;dr, fear-mongering to me was in reference to the idea that Cory, a skilled and respected player, was in the role because it makes some people very nervous about it. I also think the mention of recruitment, which we have no evidence of, is very likely to sow some discord and distrust in later stages if it is constantly referenced. Dont worry about recruitment until we have a reason to is my motto, otherwise town will tear itself apart.

 

 

TLM again

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:11 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:02 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:00 AM, Lenlo said:

Catching up, Seph dont lie to the girl. We dont have fun here. We just yell at each other until someone gives up and they get lynched.

 

SHUT THE F UP AND GET LYNCHED FFS!!!!!!!

 

YOU WANNA GO?! CAUSE IM READY TO GO BRO!

 

 

Fluff

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 5:10 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:31 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:11 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:02 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 4:00 AM, Lenlo said:

Catching up, Seph dont lie to the girl. We dont have fun here. We just yell at each other until someone gives up and they get lynched.

 

SHUT THE F UP AND GET LYNCHED FFS!!!!!!!

 

YOU WANNA GO?! CAUSE IM READY TO GO BRO!

 

 

 

 

 

Fluff

 

 

  On 4/30/2017 at 5:17 AM, Lenlo said:

I liked that gif to much not to post to.

 

 

More fluff.

 

And he's away again...

[DPR]

  On 4/30/2017 at 8:03 PM, Lenlo said:

[v]The Laughing Man[/v]

 

I wanna see what happens. 

 

Unexplained vote

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 12:13 AM, Lenlo said:

Ed, we are the best of friends.

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 12:12 AM, seph said:

I'm confused by Leno voting laughing man, surely he HD to notice it since it was literally the discussion for the first 10 pages, well a good 5 or so at least.

I knew you voted LM, I commented on it when you did, I meant I want to see what happens if we lynch him.

 

 

Fluff

 

And he's gone again...

[seph]

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:16 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 5/1/2017 at 4:23 AM, seph said:

I'm pretty damn sure ed is scum

 

Then why aren't you voting him?

 

 

Because I think adam could be scum as well. I really liked the people on this wagon, barring killa's recent post and I did not want to just abandon it. besides that ed starts to post around that time and if you kept reading you should know why.

  On 5/1/2017 at 1:43 PM, Lenlo said:

First, on phone.

 

So I wanna point out for DPR, since he is conviently ignoring this fact, I never criticized the TLM spec, I criticized the Cory spec. 2 different things, so don't try to pretend voting TLM is counter to what I've said. It's not.

 

Second, TLM is the/a bad guy in the show Zander. Yeah, he's a less awesome V, but the good guys from this show are in the government (Sector 9 I think) so there's your perspective.

Dpr is touching on this but lenlo's lack of game related posts is disturbing. and is nothing but spec on TLM. 

 

The bolded is one thing that bothered me about dpr's vote, but I honestly am having a hard time seeing this dude as scum this game. 

 

Dpr who are you sussing besides lenlo? if you already said ill find it later