[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[seph]

or even think he might be town   EBWODP

[Nynaeve]

Tigs i really need your input

[Nynaeve]

Im not sure what to do

[Nynaeve]

Literraly tge worst time right now when im at work and cant pay attention

[seph]

dpr if I was scum with dice and you were town, WHY would I set him up in the qt with you were i could lynch him to just defend him? lynching dice and gaining favor with you would be the easiest way to win since we are literally the loudest two players.

ed and tigs please follow me and dice here, I really want to turn this thing around and win. 

Tigs you did not get a  qt when you viewed TLM as did dice, how does it make sense that 2 others got results? something is obviously fishy here, and if they had a roleblock they would have used it night 2 when you viewed ed.
If somehow they did rb you night 2 and 3 then I am completely wrong here and we already lost regardless of what you do. 

[DPR]

 

 

 

I will LOLOLOLOL if it's dice/Seph/?

 

Seph throwing a protection vote down to swing momentum has me double-guessing Killa again.

killa just literally outed herself lol at this post

 

 

Killa did not claim scum. She said she lost all wim. The loling looks bad - she's looked bad all game. But you avoiding her lynch is insane - you've been saying you were going to vote her since yesterday as she was your top pick.

 

Now you have a perfectly good reason to vote her and you pass it up to vote me - and as of yesterday, I've been your top pick for town all game.

 

Nyn and I hack TLM - report what's there - and you suddenly decide to abandon your vote on Killa, to join dice against me. 

 

You're scum, doing the scum dance for a scum win. You've outed yourself.

 

ROFL like im literally laughing here. 

 

I do have a perfectly good reason to vote her, and you calling her town because of me a few posts ago is intriguing as well.

 

You pulling your vote from her to me is as good a reason to question her alignment as there ever was. Especially at LYLO.

 

Resolving killa < Resolving you and dice  (how is this hard to comprehend)

 

Evidently pretty hard because a scum lynch is what we need - which scum doesn't matter. We know we have 3 of them, and you pull your vote from a likely one and ignore evidence on another to vote me. And I'm confirmed town according to TLM, which is just being ignored. I get the GF angle - I agree that town wants to be careful, but your vote is on a confirmed town player. That, and you threw shade at Tags in your comment to Nyn earlier. No bueno. 

 

1. you and dice are town and we already lost

 

Just not true. You could have voted Killa, and if a majority agreed with you and she's scum, we would be on our way to winning. 

2. 1 of you and dice are scum and need to be resolved

 

I've provided what i consider to be evidence to that end. I'm actually still game solving while you and dice are scrambling to defend the claimed hacker who has no hacks.  

3. killa is scum

 

I thought so - her novice play would point to that. I had dice and her as the top picks for today. But you doing a 180 on this vote has me way off balance and we've all seen town make really horrible moves before. We won't know until the last flip, but you are an experienced player and what you've done has me scratching my head a lot more than someone playing their third game.

 

why didn't you listen to me about killa in the qt then???? you ignored me and just keep tunneling dice

 

I did. i agreed. i just get like it was a safer bet to go after the one we had the most evidence and motivation for. 

 

He's still trying to say Tigs isn't town!

 

you and nyn got reports which is where my tinfoil came in.

 

Nyn and I both hacked TLM. Sounds like Tigs and dice thought about it as well - you also said in the QT that I should and I told you I already had sent in my action to do so! 

 

It was the obvious move. 

 

And we came back with the report of what is there. Which is exactly what should have happened. Nyn posted and I confirmed it. Where tf do you get tinfoil out of that? 

 

so we have a cop who target tlm and got nothing.

we have dice who targeted tlm and got nothing

 

dice got nothing all game. 3 nights - 3 nothings. But you want to overlook that in case I'm GF and pretend like there is no way there is a mafia roleblocker.  Sounds legit. 

 

 

we have dpr who got results

we have nyn who got results

 

Two players who confirmed the results. s opposed to your new best friend who has zero results. 

 

something is wrong about the above

 

Yeah. And it's you suddenly defending dice.  

 

 

I'm in blue.

[DPR]

 

 

i mean ed can tell us if I was protecting dice, he is in the qt where I posted my thoughts about him lol. You protected him most of the game, or fence sat about him until dice niniel comments.

 

I'm reading dice's posts but I don't understand what's talking about! Boyo has gone off the deep end on this one. 

 

Niniel is gonna flip scum and dice is next.

 

here is your dice and niniel post where you were linking them and when niniel flips town you do nothing but dig after dice. You never tried to review him or consider you could have been wrong. you spent the whole time painting a red bullseye imo

 

I've been vocal about seeing dice as town all game. Then he pulled his vote off of Niniel for no reason, asked me to trust him and had to buy himself some time to think. He looked bad after that. 

 

I find it amazing that you don't post any of my quotes where I say i think you were right about dice being scum. Why don't you dig those up? I'd post the whole damn thread if that was allowed - which is why I suggested doing it! ed can confirm that as well.

 

because that is the post where you tie niniel and dice together. and you are posting about them in the thread. But when niniel flips town you do not reevaluate dice at all, or even he might be town. you tunnel him the exact way you did niniel

 

 

Wrong.

 

I said I was blank-sheeting the game to avoid exactly what you are talking about. 

 

It just so happens that dice still pops up. 

 

Why are you ignoring that he claimed hacker and out of 3 nights, he has no hacks? Please comment on this. 

[seph]

@ dpr.

again.. im literally repeating myself

1. If scum had a roleblock they would have used it night 2 when she viewed ed. It makes 0 sense to know who the cop is and not rb them if you have it. 

2. even if we lynch kill WE STILL HAVE TO LYNCH BETWEEN YOU AND DICE jesus christ

3. if im wrong on you dpr it won't matter because we already lost and im sorry

4. yes two people got confirmed results when someone I 100% bleieve to be town tigs - did not recieve a qt. If there was no actually cop role and she was able to fake it, or if she can't access her own reads from tlm well I give up on mafia lol because that would just be dumb imo and i just lost us the game

[seph]

 

 

 

i mean ed can tell us if I was protecting dice, he is in the qt where I posted my thoughts about him lol. You protected him most of the game, or fence sat about him until dice niniel comments.

 

I'm reading dice's posts but I don't understand what's talking about! Boyo has gone off the deep end on this one. 

 

Niniel is gonna flip scum and dice is next.

 

here is your dice and niniel post where you were linking them and when niniel flips town you do nothing but dig after dice. You never tried to review him or consider you could have been wrong. you spent the whole time painting a red bullseye imo

 

I've been vocal about seeing dice as town all game. Then he pulled his vote off of Niniel for no reason, asked me to trust him and had to buy himself some time to think. He looked bad after that. 

 

I find it amazing that you don't post any of my quotes where I say i think you were right about dice being scum. Why don't you dig those up? I'd post the whole damn thread if that was allowed - which is why I suggested doing it! ed can confirm that as well.

 

because that is the post where you tie niniel and dice together. and you are posting about them in the thread. But when niniel flips town you do not reevaluate dice at all, or even he might be town. you tunnel him the exact way you did niniel

 

 

Wrong.

 

I said I was blank-sheeting the game to avoid exactly what you are talking about. 

 

It just so happens that dice still pops up. 

 

Why are you ignoring that he claimed hacker and out of 3 nights, he has no hacks? Please comment on this. 

 

I am not ignoring it, it was never something I commented on? 

 

How does how he chose his targets matter? if your so worried about it why are you not questioning nyn?? you realize regardless here, the mafia can easily fake what the peeks are.  you + her

 

 

My main read of this is based off of tigs

 

and how the results differ here on the views of tlm

[seph]

She is yelling and im loggin off and spending a little time before bedtime with her.

[DPR]

dpr if I was scum with dice and you were town, WHY would I set him up in the qt with you were i could lynch him to just defend him? lynching dice and gaining favor with you would be the easiest way to win since we are literally the loudest two players.

 

ed and tigs please follow me and dice here, I really want to turn this thing around and win. 

 

Tigs you did not get a  qt when you viewed TLM as did dice, how does it make sense that 2 others got results? something is obviously fishy here, and if they had a roleblock they would have used it night 2 when you viewed ed.

If somehow they did rb you night 2 and 3 then I am completely wrong here and we already lost regardless of what you do. 

 

I don't know! But whatever scum has been doing is working pretty well so far, so if you're town, I don't think defending your play is such a great idea.

 

I screwed up on Niniel. I pushed and I was wrong. I've owned it. 

 

TOWN HAS NOT LOST YET. Stop saying that.

 

Tags got hack results - she has a QT with dice, who acted like a complete weirdo about it! Tags also named her peeks and they are there, just like she said, confirmed by 2 players. She is the last player in question now.

 

dice is not a hacker and mafia roleblocked Tigs from TLM. Nice and simple explanation. It's not exactly like she wasn't hinting, which is why I tried to draw the NK to me and told her to be carfeful.

 

This is all kinds of frustrating. 

[DPR]

@ dpr.

 

again.. im literally repeating myself

 

1. If scum had a roleblock they would have used it night 2 when she viewed ed. It makes 0 sense to know who the cop is and not rb them if you have it.

 

Niniel had a 2x tracker. They might have a 2x role block. The simple explanation is usually the best. But you want to avoid that at all costs.  

 

2. even if we lynch kill WE STILL HAVE TO LYNCH BETWEEN YOU AND DICE jesus christ

 

SO TF WHAT? We have to lynch all 3 to win - wtf does it matter what order we do it in?!?!

 

3. if im wrong on you dpr it won't matter because we already lost and im sorry

 

We have not lost yet. We're still here, still playing, and we can still win. 

 

4. yes two people got confirmed results when someone I 100% bleieve to be town tigs - did not recieve a qt. If there was no actually cop role and she was able to fake it, or if she can't access her own reads from tlm well I give up on mafia lol because that would just be dumb imo and i just lost us the game

 

Listen to what you are saying:

 

You have Tags as a fake Cop claim - but no one has countered her. 

Your scenario would have the scum team as Tigs, Nyn & me, which has been suggested - but that would mean that town doesn't have a cop, that mafia would know that and that TLM is not what Nyn and i have reported it is. So far, we have 6 dead player and only one pr - a 2x tracker. You really think the game has no cop and that TLM is just a distraction?

 

And all that so you can avoid voting your #1 scum pick and support the guy who has no proof of his claim.

 

That doesn't even make sense. This is nonsense.

 

Blue. 

[Killashandra]

I thought so - her novice play would point to that. I had dice and her as the top picks for today. But you doing a 180 on this vote has me way off balance and we've all seen town make really horrible moves before. We won't know until the last flip, but you are an experienced player and what you've done has me scratching my head a lot more than someone playing their third game.

 

 

 

 

This is all kinds of frustrating. 

 

QFT

 

 

I am not going to be useful at all because I will probably just muck it all up worse. That is why I did not vote last time. 

 

 

I have no idea between you and Seph but I pointed out way earlier in the game that one of you might very well end up mafia. The argument seem a little to real for both to be mafia play fighting. 

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

DPR (2) - Dice, Seph

 

Dice (1) - DPR

 

Not Voting: Killashandra, Nyn, ed2funy, Tig

 

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

 

This is LYLO. Votes will be locked in place once cast.

 

[DPR]

 

I thought so - her novice play would point to that. I had dice and her as the top picks for today. But you doing a 180 on this vote has me way off balance and we've all seen town make really horrible moves before. We won't know until the last flip, but you are an experienced player and what you've done has me scratching my head a lot more than someone playing their third game.

 

 

 

 

This is all kinds of frustrating. 

 

QFT

 

 

I am not going to be useful at all because I will probably just muck it all up worse. That is why I did not vote last time. 

 

 

I have no idea between you and Seph but I pointed out way earlier in the game that one of you might very well end up mafia. The argument seem a little to real for both to be mafia play fighting. 

 

 

 

This is not mafia play fighting. This is a scummer trying to confuse everyone so that his team can win :P

[Shad_]

Mod announcement

 

All players:

 

Read the rules on page 1 and type R&U when this has been accomplished.

[Killashandra]

R&U?

 

Did someone (I hope its not me!) break a rule?

[DPR]

R&U?

 

Did someone (I hope its not me!) break a rule?

 

 

It wasn't you. 

 

R & U

 

Also, it wasn't me either. 

[Nynaeve]

Was it me?

[DPR]

Was it me?

 

 

No. 

 

We probably shouldn't talk about it. Mod would have announced it if he wanted it discussed. 

[Shad_]

I should add while I'm on this topic: my rules failed to specifically state this, but it's generally common knowledge and it will be formalized from this point:

 

Don't discuss conversations with the moderator.  You can talk about your powers or lie about the same.  A side conversation you have had with me is not appropriate to bring into play.  Sanitize.  Think of it like the mod does not exist as a person and information is just divinely gifted upon you.  That will help my ego a fair bit anyway.  This is subjective but will be enforced as needed.

 

kthx

[Tigraine]

Guys I've got a 3 hour drive ahead of me then have to drive back but while I'm where in going I will give all of my input.

 

But I do want to say this, me not getting a qt with TLM makes sense, I didn't think about it during night or I wouldn't have used my hack on him but my role states I won't get the results. So letting me into a QT with TLM would've went against my role.

[Tigraine]

I actually do have a question though...everyone that is in a qt, who's PMs had the names of who was in the QT and who's did not?

 

Obviously Ed's first qt didn't and Dice's didn't but Ed, DPR, Seph...which ones had names??

[seph]

Guys I've got a 3 hour drive ahead of me then have to drive back but while I'm where in going I will give all of my input.

But I do want to say this, me not getting a qt with TLM makes sense, I didn't think about it during night or I wouldn't have used my hack on him but my role states I won't get the results. So letting me into a QT with TLM would've went against my role.

  

I actually do have a question though...everyone that is in a qt, who's PMs had the names of who was in the QT and who's did not?

Obviously Ed's first qt didn't and Dice's didn't but Ed, DPR, Seph...which ones had names??

Mine just says a link has been established.

 

Why would Yolo u have a hack then tig? It makes 0 sense to withhold info from just some poeple.

 

It says you won't get the results I get that, if it means you genuinely can no matter what receive your peeks I find it pretty hard to believe. If that is the case then I just messed up royaly.

 

Here is the thing with 2 votes on dpr, and knowing I am town makes me think we got it right unless the mafia team is

 

Dice + ed + killa since ed is the only one not in the thread at the same time as others. If I was wrong on dpr the remaining 2 mafia would just have to vote him and we lose.

[seph]

OK dpr.... if the mafia had a X2 role block or a role block in general...

 

They block tigs night 2 WHICH NEVER HAPPENED so 5her is no role block l.... if you can't roleblock the cop, you are going to kill the cop it's pretty simple