[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

I'm feeling very boxed in rn.

[Darthe]

Oh wait, no im not. Hah!

[Darthe]

Psyche thats the wrong number!

[Songstress]

[Cass]

Tressface!

[Cass]

Oh come on, that posts?

 

DM is eating my MQ replieeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[MrsClov]

 

 

@MrsClov/Liz

 Slight sticking points for me

- Why was it worth re-quoting NB's comments on your post?

- Why so concerned with my D1 vote on Darthe here? I'm aware it was left there all day, but what, in your minds was the issue/problem with that? 

 

 

@Cass

 

Eldrick was talking about looking at interactions with NB. He had asked about Darthe and NB's interactions. I  had said they had a jokey vote interaction upon NB's thread entry. Eldrick asked me if there was anything else so I went back to check and was reminded of that post. Every time I look back at it it just really sticks out to me. It could be nothing, but post NB's flip, it reads like TMI to me. 

 

More curiosity than anything. We weren't sure if it ever evolved into a serious vote or was still a joke vote since it was left there all day. 

[Cass]

@MrsClov/Liz

 Slight sticking points for me

- Why was it worth re-quoting NB's comments on your post?

- Why so concerned with my D1 vote on Darthe here? I'm aware it was left there all day, but what, in your minds was the issue/problem with that? 

 

 

@Cass

 

Eldrick was talking about looking at interactions with NB. He had asked about Darthe and NB's interactions. I  had said they had a jokey vote interaction upon NB's thread entry. Eldrick asked me if there was anything else so I went back to check and was reminded of that post. Every time I look back at it it just really sticks out to me. It could be nothing, but post NB's flip, it reads like TMI to me. 

 

More curiosity than anything. We weren't sure if it ever evolved into a serious vote or was still a joke vote since it was left there all day. 

 

 

Ta

I've answered in response to Eldrick in the MQ that's currently pending in other tab with green line and white DOTS OF DOOM (sorry if it posts a bazillion times) but basically, it was the best I had with the time I got D1.

 

IIRC Liz mentioned a possibility of coming at me for it somewhere. Why was that?/What would be the problem either way?

[Cass]

 

 

 

LizClov- didn't/don't like either of their intro posts or narrow focus on self defence early on. ?shade or paranoia? Snark from Mrs Clov and aggression from Liz look good. Liz v Darthe for wider focus is !!!!!!!! Refusing to let him stay noncommittal reads [/i]hunting[/i] for answers. Branching out at same time looks good. Issue with Darthe vote?[/size][/font]

They aren't the only one. Why the question mark? Why ignore explaining?

 

Why did you leave your joke vote on him all phase?

You first. Why does it bother you?

It bothers me because you never addressed it. Joke votes being left on someone after the joke phase is over is a red flag for me.

 

So I asked you about it. So did MrsClov. And we were ignored.

 

I couldn't tell if the vote was there because it had become serious or not. What is your current read on him and why?

 

 

 

Eld, 'Red flag' is a generic way to throw shade without explaining, and it doesn't really answer the question which is kind of the point.

 

Why would it be  a 'red flag' for you either way?

 

Why is that particular vote ever a problem or worth pushing in either scenario?

 

Either it was a joke vote with no seriousness attached to it left in place on D1 because I'd barely been around or it was a joke vote that became more serious as the day progressed.

 

Regardless, the only real 'problem' with it is that it's an anomaly - and it's easily picked out/on by scum.

 

Welcome to my net :P

 

 

Pretty happy to YOLO that the hydra are Town at this point so ftr

 

 

Initially voted Darthe on his intro cos it made me lol:wub:

 

He was either scum/PR going bold because he could and the WIFOM of early claim might work in his favour; or it was simply a way to generate discussion.

 

Read it as null, slightly higher chance of Town cos imo TownDarthe especially loves to be null on D1 for reactions. At that point it was mostly a joke and adding fuel.

 

Lean dropped slightly when I read he did the same as scum in last game because I think he's personally more likely to repeat the exact same thing as scum here than Town because the kick from it would be higher. Had it as something to watch progression on. 

 

Ultimately the only comment I remember from him on it was wrt NB, and then that was quickly dropped in favour of them each tunneling on LizClov.

 

Add to that the fact that he had an early Town read of me but stuck to the tunnel on the hydra even when they branched out, even when Liz was reacting almost exactly the same way I previously have with him - in a way TownDarthe recognised as Town- and the feeling that LizClov were the new 'Sooh and Eldrick Hydra  Scapegoat for ScumDarthe' grew.

 

Was more sure about that than anything else in the time I had so left it there.

 

Considered for a bit that Darthe - Hydra could be ultra distancing but I'm not sure that's Liz or Mrs Clov's style given NB's flip I don't think that's the case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, why would you do that if town? You wouldn't knew her alignment, so no way she has that much weight.

Occam's razor. The fact that liz's one post drew so much attention probably means it's from town. Scum isn't usually that sloppy. If they flip scum, I'll reconsider a lot of stuff, but I don't think it's happening.

 

That and they have made a lot of sense this game, once the pressure was off of them.

That's a terribly throwaway answer.

Don't care. I have trust that Lizclov, Seph and Cuth are town. Will continue to think so until some hard facts prove otherwise.

 

 

@Darthe

 

- What's the bold in relation to?

- What's your read on Cuth?

 

 

I didn't know you'd be scarce cass

 

Only here cos I'm a sucker. It was clearly in the sign up though. 

 

Why'd you defend me/have me Town so early on?

[Cass]

\o/

 

 

Except for ninja'ing my own question to Mrs Clov but eh 

[Cass]

Agree with your list, for the most part. You are in the "want more from" category, as is wiffy.

 

Lizclov, Seph and Cuth are my definite not lynch. I think I've already made those clear.

 

Dice has made it there too, because my interactions with him have felt genuine.

 

Isn't this basically the same as D1?

[MrsClov]

 

@MrsClov/Liz

 Slight sticking points for me

- Why was it worth re-quoting NB's comments on your post?

- Why so concerned with my D1 vote on Darthe here? I'm aware it was left there all day, but what, in your minds was the issue/problem with that? 

 

 

@Cass

 

Eldrick was talking about looking at interactions with NB. He had asked about Darthe and NB's interactions. I  had said they had a jokey vote interaction upon NB's thread entry. Eldrick asked me if there was anything else so I went back to check and was reminded of that post. Every time I look back at it it just really sticks out to me. It could be nothing, but post NB's flip, it reads like TMI to me. 

 

More curiosity than anything. We weren't sure if it ever evolved into a serious vote or was still a joke vote since it was left there all day. 

 

 

Ta

I've answered in response to Eldrick in the MQ that's currently pending in other tab with green line and white DOTS OF DOOM (sorry if it posts a bazillion times) but basically, it was the best I had with the time I got D1.

 

IIRC Liz mentioned a possibility of coming at me for it somewhere. Why was that?/What would be the problem either way?

 

 

It just posted, and your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure about the coming at you part. I don't remember anything like that. If there was, I'll have to let Liz explain because as far as I knew we've had you bouncing between Null and Town on our reads. 

[Darthe]

 

 

@MrsClov/Liz

Slight sticking points for me

- Why was it worth re-quoting NB's comments on your post?

- Why so concerned with my D1 vote on Darthe here? I'm aware it was left there all day, but what, in your minds was the issue/problem with that?

 

@Cass

 

Eldrick was talking about looking at interactions with NB. He had asked about Darthe and NB's interactions. I had said they had a jokey vote interaction upon NB's thread entry. Eldrick asked me if there was anything else so I went back to check and was reminded of that post. Every time I look back at it it just really sticks out to me. It could be nothing, but post NB's flip, it reads like TMI to me.

 

More curiosity than anything. We weren't sure if it ever evolved into a serious vote or was still a joke vote since it was left there all day.

What was jokey about it?

[Cuth]

 

 

 

feel free to AMA about my posts last night encouraging mafia to kill me

 

some of you expressed concern about how nothing'd been said about that

 

i'm happy to discuss it

 

What was the point?

 

meh

 

i want the wolf team to kill me because i'm VT

 

but rubbing that enough in their face to make them wonder if i'm a power role saying it in a provocative way to avoid being killed because they think I'm a VT

 

because i might be a power role

 

but i said i'm just a vt

 

if nothing else it's not a huge waste of my time and makes the scum team think a little more

 

 

Seems like it'd help scum team more than town.

 

maybe

 

i didn't get killed last night though

[Cuth]

So basically, Liz/Clov, Seph and Cuth think each others farts smell good and Eldrick follows all of them around like a lost puppy.

 

Cuth is useless - contributes nothing and brags about it. 

Liz/Clov distract the game by dumping volumes and volumes of content, none of which makes sense.

Seph rubber stamps everything Cuth & Liz/Clov say, and they hold him up as the authority on such things.

Eldrick reminds me of a cartoon character - the one that stands behind the boss/leader and says "yeah!" after everything the boss says.

 

At this point, were not even playing the game so much as we're picking sides on the playground. There are baskets full of unanswered, undiscussed details, but we ain't goin' nowhere until half of this game dies off. I'm kickin' up my feet til then.

incorrect

 

i'm not going to parade what i HAVE done so far in this game

 

i'm just going to let you know that i check into thread fairly regularly but don't have a ton of time to do larger effort things if i don't have to 

 

given eod is tomorrow, i'll probably put in work tonight or this afternoon

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

LizClov- didn't/don't like either of their intro posts or narrow focus on self defence early on. ?shade or paranoia? Snark from Mrs Clov and aggression from Liz look good. Liz v Darthe for wider focus is !!!!!!!! Refusing to let him stay noncommittal reads [/i]hunting[/i] for answers. Branching out at same time looks good. Issue with Darthe vote?[/size][/font]

They aren't the only one. Why the question mark? Why ignore explaining?

 

Why did you leave your joke vote on him all phase?

You first. Why does it bother you?

It bothers me because you never addressed it. Joke votes being left on someone after the joke phase is over is a red flag for me.

 

So I asked you about it. So did MrsClov. And we were ignored.

 

I couldn't tell if the vote was there because it had become serious or not. What is your current read on him and why?

Eld, 'Red flag' is a generic way to throw shade without explaining, and it doesn't really answer the question which is kind of the point.

Why would it be a 'red flag' for you either way?

Why is that particular vote ever a problem or worth pushing in either scenario?

Either it was a joke vote with no seriousness attached to it left in place on D1 because I'd barely been around or it was a joke vote that became more serious as the day progressed.

Regardless, the only real 'problem' with it is that it's an anomaly - and it's easily picked out/on by scum.

Welcome to my net :P

 

Pretty happy to YOLO that the hydra are Town at this point so ftr

 

Initially voted Darthe on his intro cos it made me lol:wub:

He was either scum/PR going bold because he could and the WIFOM of early claim might work in his favour; or it was simply a way to generate discussion.

Read it as null, slightly higher chance of Town cos imo TownDarthe especially loves to be null on D1 for reactions. At that point it was mostly a joke and adding fuel.

Lean dropped slightly when I read he did the same as scum in last game because I think he's personally more likely to repeat the exact same thing as scum here than Town because the kick from it would be higher. Had it as something to watch progression on.

Ultimately the only comment I remember from him on it was wrt NB, and then that was quickly dropped in favour of them each tunneling on LizClov.

Add to that the fact that he had an early Town read of me but stuck to the tunnel on the hydra even when they branched out, even when Liz was reacting almost exactly the same way I previously have with him - in a way TownDarthe recognised as Town- and the feeling that LizClov were the new 'Sooh and Eldrick Hydra Scapegoat for ScumDarthe' grew.

Was more sure about that than anything else in the time I had so left it there.

Considered for a bit that Darthe - Hydra could be ultra distancing but I'm not sure that's Liz or Mrs Clov's style given NB's flip I don't think that's the case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, why would you do that if town? You wouldn't knew her alignment, so no way she has that much weight.

Occam's razor. The fact that liz's one post drew so much attention probably means it's from town. Scum isn't usually that sloppy. If they flip scum, I'll reconsider a lot of stuff, but I don't think it's happening.

 

That and they have made a lot of sense this game, once the pressure was off of them.

That's a terribly throwaway answer.

Don't care. I have trust that Lizclov, Seph and Cuth are town. Will continue to think so until some hard facts prove otherwise.

@Darthe

 

- What's the bold in relation to?

- What's your read on Cuth?

 

I didn't know you'd be scarce cass

Only here cos I'm a sucker. It was clearly in the sign up though.

 

Why'd you defend me/have me Town so early on?

I still have you as town, just wanted to see your reaponss to the sus. Ciths my washiest read atm, I really go bacj and forth on him. Atm town tho.

 

Bold is to eldrick following his read on me after he conferred with liz, for lack of a better way to say it. Follow the post link back and itll make sense.

[Hallia]

I left work last night with a migraine that pretty much ended me for the night.  My apologies for not being here, I will keep reading, though there are so many more pages now v.v

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

@MrsClov/Liz

Slight sticking points for me

- Why was it worth re-quoting NB's comments on your post?

- Why so concerned with my D1 vote on Darthe here? I'm aware it was left there all day, but what, in your minds was the issue/problem with that?

 

@Cass

 

Eldrick was talking about looking at interactions with NB. He had asked about Darthe and NB's interactions. I had said they had a jokey vote interaction upon NB's thread entry. Eldrick asked me if there was anything else so I went back to check and was reminded of that post. Every time I look back at it it just really sticks out to me. It could be nothing, but post NB's flip, it reads like TMI to me.

 

More curiosity than anything. We weren't sure if it ever evolved into a serious vote or was still a joke vote since it was left there all day.

What was jokey about it?

 

 

It was early d1 when everyone was still joking around, and the way she was interacting with Liz about the vote made it come across as jokey.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

 

 

feel free to AMA about my posts last night encouraging mafia to kill me

 

some of you expressed concern about how nothing'd been said about that

 

i'm happy to discuss it

 

What was the point?

 

meh

 

i want the wolf team to kill me because i'm VT

 

but rubbing that enough in their face to make them wonder if i'm a power role saying it in a provocative way to avoid being killed because they think I'm a VT

 

because i might be a power role

 

but i said i'm just a vt

 

if nothing else it's not a huge waste of my time and makes the scum team think a little more

 

 

Seems like it'd help scum team more than town.

 

maybe

 

i didn't get killed last night though

 

 

Either they believe your claim or you're on the scum team.  All that action did was make it easier to deduce power roles.

[Kaylee]

 

Feeling particularity playful and sarcastic.

In five words or less why am I never getting lynched iyo?

Because I'm not playing

[Darthe]

Oh I thought you were talking about me and nb for some reason.

[Darthe]

 

 

Feeling particularity playful and sarcastic.

In five words or less why am I never getting lynched iyo?

Because I'm not playing

The mod hath spoken folks

[Cuth]

oh also

 

mechanically, eldrick is a bad lynch imo

 

if we lynch someone else today

 

either he dies during the night, something else happens, or nothing

 

doctor can even feel free not to target him unless the doc thinks he actually is town or has a good idea on who'll be the NK

 

he tells us what happened or is resolved

 

this solution may be more amenable to both parties

[Cuth]

 

 

 

Either they believe your claim or you're on the scum team.  All that action did was make it easier to deduce power roles.

 

if the first, that's fine by me, and just because i wasn't NKed doesn't mean they 100% believe the claim

 

i disagree a little with your reasoning, although i totally get where you're coming from

 

we'll see what happens

[Darthe]

oh also

 

mechanically, eldrick is a bad lynch imo

 

if we lynch someone else today

 

either he dies during the night, something else happens, or nothing

 

doctor can even feel free not to target him unless the doc thinks he actually is town or has a good idea on who'll be the NK

 

he tells us what happened or is resolved

 

this solution may be more amenable to both parties

Can you flesh out why plz?