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What would you have started the show with?
Mailman replied to Blackbyrd's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Prologue 100% Sets everything up wonderfully. The Dragon, Ishy, Shai'tan, the taint and the madness, the idea of rebirth, epic timeline. -
Will "The Wheel of Time" get a reprint?
Mailman replied to Mistique Klang's topic in Wheel of Time Books
Are they not usually stickers? -
RoP numbers did not fall off a cliff like WoTs numbers either. WoT s1e1-3 1.15B Wot s2e1-3 515M WoT s3e1-3 534M RoP s1e1-3 1.25B RoP s2e1-3 1.015B
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And I was simply explaining why I did not think it was confusing.
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I don't really see what there is to be confused about. Initial mentions of titles relating to positions of authority are always unknown till they are fleshed out however those titles in themselves obviously denote significant positions of power even if they are never mentioned again that is obvious. LTT being insane is clear as he is walking and talking calmly amid the bodies and destruction. After he is healed he recognises and is then convinced it is himself that caused the carnage. Betrayer of Hope a clear declaration about how LTT views Ishy. Clear description of LTT and company striking against the dark one and that because of this strike it has caused the madness and destruction that is taking place. The fervour of Ishy talking about their battle shows he is a true believer. Ishy standing at Dragonmount stating it is not over shows us that the following story is connected to what we have just witnessed. All of this feels very obvious to me the hang up appears to be about names and titles which I find confusing as even if they were never mentioned again the fact that they are titles gives them their own gravitas. If I make up a title Lord Zehyr, Master of the Winds, Lord of the three realms, Champion of the Highlands. You don't need to know what those actually refer to know that they are a person of importance and significance in this world.
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Did the series give you a deeper understanding of the books?
Mailman replied to expat's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
The Harem storyline is such a minor part of the books. Rand only sleeps with Elayne and Aviendha from memory one time and two times respectively, Min is the only he sleeps with on a regular basis. Personally I think that the idea that a couple is the best relationship dynamic for every person on Earth is shortsighted and has to a large extent been forced upon us as traditional by religions that are far too interested in our sexual activities. As long as the relationship is safe, sane and consensual I don't really see why any number can't make up a healthy relationship. I was okay with the show giving a more physical relationship between any of the Avi, Min or Elayne, but for Avi and Elayne it would require some changes especially in regards to the rebirthing ceremony. -
How do channelers discover they are bad at healing?
Mailman replied to king of nowhere's topic in Wheel of Time Books
Also if we are talking about Rand era Aes Sedai healers almost all of them healed with a simple mix of air water and spirit and it tried to heal everything at once there was no finesse to it. Only Cadsuanes friend to my knowledge had more refined control outside Nynaeve and post her teachings. So if you struggled to heal a simple disease or injury then you knew that your talents lay elsewhere. Otherwise it was basically your talent times your power level equalled your total healing output and that could not be applied to a specific injury target only a whole body spread. -
One way to link it would be 3000 years ago. Prologue into the creation of Dragonmount with the shadow touching the Island of Tar Valon then either a straight time jump or if it could be done well a fast forward of destruction sweeping the lands and then the building of Tar Valon. 2980 years later. The Mountain still casting it shadow on the shining Walls. Then doing the Gitara prophecy scene and introducing Moiraine and Siuan. Then 20 years later. Show Moiraine arriving in the Two Rivers or focus on Rand. The only drawback to this start is that it could be 15 to 20 minutes before we get to the Two Rivers. You can even have a sweeping visual of the Aiel battle outside the walls as you move into Tar Valon to focus on Gitara.
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It establishes The taint and the madness, Shaitan, the Dragon and Ishy. It sets the timeline and the stakes for the series how you could dismiss this as not meaningful is a mystery to me. Why would it be the future and if the that was a concern you could simply have the standard book opening and a 3000 years later. The shows start must have been a tremendous disappointment to you if you thought the prologue lacked development and meaning.
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They also could not initiate combat as that oath was also still in place. It's mentioned that one of the captured was only good for making the sky lights I think. That 4th oath would work if applied however I would reword it to making you unable to embrace the source while leashed. It would however obviously not apply to any non tower affiliated channelers that where swept up by the Seachan and that testing was rigorous.
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The prologue should have been the start of the show. It allows you to set the stakes of the entire series. It sets the epic nature and timeline of the series. It gives you an epic set piece start that allows you to set the violence level of the series. You showcase your channeling CGI. You establish that male power users are doomed to insanity. It should have been the most detailed and expensive piece per minute in the entire first season to set the hook for non book viewers. Unbelievable mistake to replace it with Liandrin hunting a Rando male channeler.
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The forsaken could not enter till Mats dagger was inside. It was clearly explained that the dagger was the thing that they had followed. Ishy clearly knew about the Eye as he had discussed it at length throughout the book. I agree with all your other points that the eye got numerous mentions during the book.
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Did the series give you a deeper understanding of the books?
Mailman replied to expat's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I would say some people not many. The overall lean of the site especially post first season has been decidedly pro show. I have been repeatedly told that since I don't like the show maybe I should not be contributing that view or questioning why I am watching and contributing. If the show has brought people to the site or to the books then I am happy, do I think that the show has been a good advertisement for the books then the answer is no. Lets not forget that it was the pro show side that came up with the label of Book Cloak. I have been accused of being homophobic because I said that prioritising Siuan and Moiraines relationship over there drive to find and support the Dragon was a poor story choice. This despite me also saying that I did not think it was an impossibility for them to be in an active relationship. I have been surprised by a few peoples interpretations of the books, for example Rafes thoughts that Aviendha and Elayne had a sexual relationship with each other, something that IMO there is no support for in the books. -
Hard disagree with this. Corporations simply factor cost of being sued into their margins. If they believe that they will come out on top financially they will simply cop the payouts. This is what is happening right now with AI. Everyone knows that they are illegally using IP to train them. They are banking on the hope that enough people do it that the whole system is broken and it becomes impractical to sue or that the profits they can generate will outstrip the cost of the incoming lawsuits.
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Faile is SO toxic! (The Shadow Rising)
Mailman replied to JeffreyBoring's topic in Wheel of Time Books
I think you have to examine it from viewpoint of her Saladean heritage. If you remember the interactions between her mother and father it seems that their idea of a relationship is very confrontational. Showing weakness is basically an insult. I think her mother described it as Faile was a strong woman and if Perrin was not strong enough she would be forced either to hold herself back or dominate him. For me it is almost the exact opposite to the sea folks relationships. Constant changes dictated solely by external seniority. I don't like the Saladean set up, the fact that Faile is unwilling to take into account the clearly different view of Perrin is infuriating. However it feels like it is set up to be purely an opposites attraction which leads to sparks is what I think Jordan was going for. -
They were not confirmed fortellings as Nicola was constantly angling for more advanced lessons by any means and some of her foretellings were suspect. If the foretelling was true it is possibly a reference to the Seachan as Tuon is the daughter of the nine moons.
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I like blooper reels although this one was fairly standard. The Jackie Chan ones I always really loved.
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Ah ok I thought you said in a previous post that they had gotten a 3 season renewal. Sorry if I misread a five season run for a 3 season renewal.
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I have watched maybe 2 episodes in total of RoP and was not impressed it's ratings are lower than WoT but it's viewership has not fallen like WoT at least according to the numbers I could find from Nielsen. WoT s1e1-3 1.15B Wot s2e1-3 515M WoT s3e1-3 534M RoP s1e1-3 1.25B RoP s2e1-3 1.015B 50% loss of viewership that never returned even the critically panned and I would argue much more actively attacked RoP (in comparison with WoT) fared far far better. RoP has had large marketing issues as well you have only to look at the bizarre mega fans/influencers event where the people they invited had incomplete knowledge and even had a vision of a man urinating in a background shot. Quality does not always translate to renewal otherwise every piece of reality television would be burned from existence and Firefly would have run for 15 seasons. Yes I think vanity and other issues may have played a part in RoP getting renewed but it also has a far larger audience and retention of said audience.
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Ah so you were using hater as a positive or neutral term? I take exception because you deliberately used the term negatively to encapsulate the entire viewership that did not like the show. As you have done repeatedly before. You used the label. I will not be further discussing this issue.
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You opened the thread with hater and you are claiming that you are not labelling people. LOL
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Yes you are. Believe what you want. I am sorry for those that enjoyed the show and have lost it. My personal dislike of the show does not affect my ability to sympathise for others. It may never get rebooted, it may take years or decades at least now that timer can be started.
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I am not going to label them. You can do so if you want. I don't like the show. Personally I am glad that it is over as the sooner it is finished the sooner it might be possible to get something that is better. I am sorry for those people who enjoyed the show that they lost it.
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What you are terming hate I call lack of quality. Fans of the show campaigned for it's continuance. The show would have continued if there was enough numbers to support it.