20 hours ago, Scarloc99 said:

I would love someone to explain why he is so important to the maidens at some point, 

Rand was the first Child of a Maiden that returned to the Maidens, so Maidens took him under their guard and carried his honor.

1 hour ago, Sabio said:

Something the show left out that has bothered me was Rand saying the Maidens carry my honor.  

There hasn't been pretty much any interaction between Rand and the Maidens. Maybe next season.

29 minutes ago, DigificWriter said:

 

 

Siuan was accused and convicted, but with only the most base air of legitimacy... hence my statements from earlier about how none of Elaida's actions in ascending to the Seat actually hold up under scrutiny and about why it's not inconceivable that every person who was complicit in Siuan's deposing and bore witness to/was present for her execution is a Darkfriend.

In the books as far as I recall..

Seems like the show has already planted the seeds for that.

2 hours ago, DreadLord31 said:

Because they set him up to be Asmodean. Why do multiple scenes on “I’m sending Rand a gift.” “He’ll be a crappy teacher…” ect? Only to kill him a few scenes later? 

Plans changed after Rand rejected Lanfear.

Near perfect finale for a near perfect season. I wish Moiraine and/or Lanfear had died instead of Siuan. Not sure what they are going for there.

About colorism.. I think only PoC have any right to say if the show has an issue or not.

I've seen mentions that the Hero of the Horn theme played during Loial's final moments.

Edit. I've not seen many mentions of the benefits of warder bond for both Aes Sedai and warder. Maybe that explains some of Alanna's survivability?

The episode was nearly perfect. I really can't think of any real negatives. 

- The battle had scale, death, surprising twists and a logical outcome with Perrin and Fain. I like that Alanna didn't just save everyone.

- I'm not 100% sure that Loial is dead. I kinda hope he is so the moment with his book and his voice-over after don't go to waste.

- Aram's arc evolving naturally.

- Faile! Perrin!

- Taim and Abel were missing for some reason. Maybe they'll help Perrin?

- Fade(s) would have been a nice touch.

- Daise went out like a legend.

- Valda got a fitting end. Bloodthirsty S.O.B.

Can't wait for the Finale.

Cauthon girls healing Alanna so easily was my only complaint in this episode. I give it a pass though, since our heroes always managed to create needed weaves pretty much every single time even if they had no training or never made them before.

The show does need to stop giving our heroes mortal wounds in every episode and heal them immediately. It's getting a bit tiring.

I almost wish Rand had done the marionette thingy with the girl's corpse. What we got was plenty enough. Well done.

On 3/27/2025 at 8:03 PM, Spiritweaver1 said:

The good news is that when AI starts creating these shows one could program it to reboot the series and have the show that could have been.

No. Just no. Do you think that's what RJ would have wanted?

Remember S2E5? Rand and Moiraine came up with a plan that Rand pretends to love Lanfear so they can get information and she won't kill them.

40 minutes ago, Sabio said:

tossing in changes just to have change. 

Any examples? I know there are changes, but I bet they have purpose behind them and are not just thrown in just because.

1 hour ago, Elder_Haman said:

I’m pretty sure the COVID issues hadn’t hit yet when the Logain episode was shot. 

I did a quick check and apparently covid restrictions hit after E4 was filmed. I'm not sure if CGI suffered for that episode also.

8 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

This must be stressed out. Time is a huge issue, and a lot of cool stuff has to be sacrificed for it.

If we get 8 season for 14 books + new spring, that's almost 2 books per season. At 800 pages per book, an episode must adapt 200 pages. Rhuidean was what, 50 pages in the books? Something like that? And they had to spend a full episode on it. And they still had to cut half the visions.

And this is why the "just do the books" is such a pointless argument. It's just not possible within time and budget.

1 hour ago, DigificWriter said:

Can somebody explain 3/4 of Rand's story this episode, please? Because I have absolutely no idea what was going on.

In short 

3 minutes ago, Pandemonium said:

4.  the only thing that kind of annoyed me was Aviendha going to Rhuidean so early.  This means we won't get the excellent book scene of Aviendha  finally stepping up and acknowleding herself as a Wise One.  this also means no Nakomi.

This episode was very very good. The glass columns were executed near perfectly. I wanted to see more of the Bore and Breaking but I'm sure that will happen later in this season or in future seasons.

Gaebril's subtle use of compulsion was very good

One criticism I have if I wanted to make any, is how Maksim and Ihvon failed to kill Liandrin. They could have chopped her head off immediately instead of stabbing. I know she "can't" die yet so it's not a big deal though. The episode was very good overall.

1 hour ago, Turin Turambar said:

Yes, I saw it as they were going more for a throuple (fourple?), as opposed to an emperor and his concubines. Plus, from the books, Avi and Elayne were very close. There was some shipping going on in the fanfics. 

Rafe has said very early on that they were (paraphrasing) "interested in exploring polyamory instead of polygamy". There's been plenty of time to gird our loins. 

19 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

Who says Rand's not going to have a relationship with all three women?

Sorry, I meant that it's fine for me that Elayne and Avi also love each other and not just Rand and Min will likely be in love with just Rand.

2 hours ago, Irvyne said:

But why oh why did they have to make Elayne and Aviendha lesbian lovers?

So that Rand doesn't have a harem. Makes full sense.

3 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

Please name a show in the sci-fi/fantasy/action genre that gives us 100% realistic action scenes and requires no suspension of disbelief. Just one.

Jackie Chan's movies

Ihvon might die in the battle between Alanna and Black Ajah 🤔

15 minutes ago, DojoToad said:

I think that the CGI used for the magic battle was very good.

 

What I can't understand is the end of the battle.  Whether the Black should have won the battle given the numbers is debatable.  But they are the Black.  They had defeated the most powerful women in the Tower and they were all laying on the ground defeated and helpless.  Finish them off quickly with a quick slice of the power?  Nah, let's retreat to the docks so we can fight them again another day.

 

Retreat was prudent after the battle but at least clean up the low hanging fruit that will only take a millisecond to destroy.

It's book accurate that good guys don't die

It's in YouTube now