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    for me only the aftermath was a letdown...only couple of page ...and it lacked emotions.


    Rand seals the Dark One in his prison at high noon.  THAT NIGHT he is burned on a pyre and the story literally ends.  Right there.  Finished.


    I guess we're supposed to fill in the pieces ourselves and that's fair enough but A LITTLE bit more exposition wouldn't be out of place considering some of us have waited 20 plus years to see how the happy endings play out.  Even Harry Potter had a small scene 20 years later right?  I mean come on, throw us a bone here.  Would it have been the end of the world to give us a paragraph on Lan and Nynaeve's kids playing in Malkier or Perrin and Faile in Saldaea or Manetheren etc?  


    So much darkness, so much death, so much blood,so much despair, so much sacrifice in this book.  A bit of sunshine and happiness could have been a nice balance to gently let us down from the sheer adrenaline of the first oh . . . EIGHT HUNDRED NINETY PAGES!!!!!!   LoL


    I was less worried about sunshine and happiness and more worried about explanations.

  2. It reminded me of that too, of course. And Lan also says "surrender when you're dead" in the book. (I always liked "after" better, and have said so before, but oh well.) It's one of the things I was talking about in the Memories thread on the non-spoiler forum when I said that Brandon reuses a lot of RJ lines. Faile's Bela Memory was another one.

  3. I also remain unconvinced with the philosophical argument behind not destroying the Dark One and just sealing him up again.


    There are some serious logical flaws in both of Rand's visions, one without Light and one without Dark.


    I'm not sure that a world WITHOUT the Dark One inherently means everyone is just a "puppet" and the world shown by the Dark One is not completely without some order, rules, structure, etc.


    Wasn't Eden originally without Evil?  Isn't the Heaven of the Christian ethos ultimately going to be without Satan?   After you choose to believe Jesus Christ and/or God after Revelations and enter Heaven, can you change your mind and go to Hell?  Can you steal, murder, or commit adultery in heaven?   Doesn't "choice" get taken away from you there eventually? 


    Again, the argument for keeping the Dark One around simply as a balance for the Light so mankind can "choose" between the two is not a particularly convincing one for me personally.   I would have gone for it in the end and taken my chances with a world changed into paradise without evil.   People seemed happy enough in that vision . . . 


    I THINK the book argues that a person without the capacity for good is not much different than a person without the capacity for evil and that strikes me as a bit simplistic.


    Agreed, this was one of my major problems with the book. The Dark One does not equal free will. How can he, when there is still free will while he can't touch the Pattern? How does his existence outside the Pattern grant people free will? It's definitely borrowed from Christian philosophy, and I suspect this is a pure Brandon addition. Partly because the first time killing the Dark One was mentioned was in TGS, and partly because of Rand's comment about his third question, which gives the impression that RJ didn't leave notes for the third question and Brandon felt the need to make something up to explain why Rand didn't just ask how to seal the Bore. But I could be wrong. Either way, I don't like it.

  4. Could this be the scene BS was talking about in that Twitter exchange? (no5)



    Just wrote a scene with Bela in it.

    This scene is one that RJ left instruction for in his notes; it gave me shivers when reading


    You can't link the search results. You have to click on the link for the entry and then add the entry number to the end of the url, like so:



  5. Just to clarify, there were certain parts of the end I liked, in concept if not in delivery, and don't read that as an attempt to say 'Brandon did it wrong' because I'm pretty sure it's mostly RJ I was disappointed with. I'll go into more detail when I review the book. I just didn't want people to have the impression that it the ending was universally loved. Part of it is the burden of knowing the difference between Min's viewings and Egwene's dreams, etc. I'm sure a lot of people will love it.


    May I ask if it made sense with everything else that was going on and if it was otherwise done well?


    I've always absolutely hated the body-swap theory and so I'm hoping that it will be written in a manner that will make it at least acceptable to me. :c


    Well . . . not whole lot of details go in to this in this book at least.  The groundwork has presumably been set in earlier novels with the link established between Moridin and Rand when they crossed streams of balefire.  Also the increasingly obvious bond between them, etc.   Then the prophecy of a "fake" husk from Min's viewing.


    Min never had a viewing of a fake husk, and we don't know what caused the bond between them. Brandon discouraged the assumption that it was the stream-crossing.

  7. Though, to be clear, this is a full spoiler thread unlike the chapters thread. People with the book may discuss it in as great a detail as they desire (or as little, in truth, as Terez has chosen to do).

    Obviously people who have read the book can discuss them here...


    Like I said. :p I never said anyone couldn't, not here, and not in the other thread.

  8. The Memories are also an Easter egg for resourceful fans. Obviously people who have read the book can discuss them here, but for fans who would just like to know a little more about them, you can find the page numbers where they appear, if you know where to look. If you don't like this sort of game, then don't play; keep in mind people have apparently been banned for complaining about such things. (Along the lines of the don't-demand-spoilers rule.)

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