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  On 2/1/2017 at 8:56 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 2/1/2017 at 7:37 AM, Niniel said:

 

  On 1/31/2017 at 11:16 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Thinking scum is AJ and nini/Marsh.

Been feeling better and better about Verb as the day went on. Darthe for aforementioned reason. Scum!Darthe could have just won the game with his vote.

Leaning Nini over Marsh. But I think AJ should be next.

 

I think we have two possibilities. Either it is you and Verb/Darthe. If so, one of them tried to save you by voting No lynch. Or it´s AJ/Marsh. I´m kind of leaning towards the last pair since non of them showed up to vote.

If it was me and Verb/Darthe, we could have simply won.

 

 

Hm... you are right about that. You were all here at the end of the day.

 

  On 2/1/2017 at 9:07 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

If you try to tie either of them to someone as a team, I want to hear a really good reason for this to not be true. They are lock cleared to me.

 

Your pool should only be me, marsh, and aj. Mine is you, marsh, and aj.

 

I look forward to seeing what you have to say for or against them.

 

I need to think more about this (and see if anyone can see it in another way) but this should lead to the conclusion that it´s AJ and Marsh. 

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The main reason for no lynch is that town was divided. It is optimal play at mylo because it's still losing with a mislynch, but we can afford another NK. Which means no lynching puts the ball in scum's court by making them reduce the numbers and therefore giving us better chance of being right, while still effectively at the same point in the game.

 

Only to be done when the town is divided. Like we were.

 

Yes the scum could still no lynch to appear towny, but doing that instead of just winning doesn't make sense.

 

They could still not kill again, if course, but I don't think that matters anymore.

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Oh... I missed the deadline. Yesterday was super busy with class and stuff. You all did what I would have done anyway, so it's all good.

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  On 2/1/2017 at 12:05 PM, Ironeyes said:

Oh... I missed the deadline. Yesterday was super busy with class and stuff. You all did what I would have done anyway, so it's all good.

Yeah. Not taking your word on that.

 

What do you think of my reasoning?

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  On 2/1/2017 at 11:53 AM, Niniel said:

Well, you are at least not mafia with Darthe or Verb. That much is clear. 

 

 

Do you ever sleep?

:P

 

I work overnights on tuesday and wednesday. I sleep in the mornings lol.

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  On 2/1/2017 at 12:20 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 2/1/2017 at 12:05 PM, Ironeyes said:

Oh... I missed the deadline. Yesterday was super busy with class and stuff. You all did what I would have done anyway, so it's all good.

Yeah. Not taking your word on that.

 

What do you think of my reasoning?

Not surprised at all.

 

Reasoning for what?

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  On 1/31/2017 at 11:00 PM, Sooh said:

That's a..... deadline

 

No lynch (3): Eldrick, Verbal, Darthe 

 

Eldrick (1): Niniel

 

Not voting (2): Ironeyes, AJ,

 

4 to lynch

 

Eldrick is correct.

 

Scum can't be 2 out of the 3 on No Lynch.  The most it can be is 1, but even that is not as likely due to what Eldrick said about it tying the votes and going to a coin flip to decide whether the game ends right there.  Darthe as scum could easily have made that vote look somewhat ok, and I'm not scum......so my conclusion is that Eldrick is right and none of us are scum (most likely).  I was already town reading Eldrick, so I'm sticking with that.

 

Both scum are in the red, imo.  Even after seeing the logic for a No Lynch, Tina still decides to put a VERY risky vote onto Eldrick near EOD.  Unless I hear something pretty damn amazing to clear her, I'm probably going to push her lynch tomorrow.

 

 

 

And it is very likely that I'm dying tonight based on that EOD.

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  On 2/1/2017 at 1:51 PM, Ironeyes said:

 

  On 2/1/2017 at 12:20 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 2/1/2017 at 12:05 PM, Ironeyes said:

Oh... I missed the deadline. Yesterday was super busy with class and stuff. You all did what I would have done anyway, so it's all good.

Yeah. Not taking your word on that.

 

What do you think of my reasoning?

Not surprised at all.

 

Reasoning for what?

 

 

Trying reading Eldrick's posts since the no lynch.

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Ok, I can dig this. Clearing verbs a bit tenuous atm, but I dont dislike the reasoning.

 

Among the other three where do each of you stand? Im at

 

Marsh

Nin

AJ

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  On 2/1/2017 at 4:49 PM, Darthe said:

Ok, I can dig this. Clearing verbs a bit tenuous atm, but I dont dislike the reasoning.

 

Among the other three where do each of you stand? Im at

 

Marsh

Nin

AJ

 

Think it through.

 

If I'm scum and didn't want to risk essentially outing myself for a 50/50 shot, then that means Eldrick can't be scum.  It is impossible for any of us (the 3 of us) to be scum together.

 

It also means I'm probably not scum with Tina, either.....as I wouldn't have worked to clear Eldrick for my partner to just vote him and leave me unable to join EOD for a potential win.

 

One of us could be scum still, yes......but prob not.  You could have easily just voted Eldrick there and forced the coin flip.  You had momentum for an Eld vote, but decided to NL....that looks good for you.

 

So while I'm still a potential, I know my alignment - so I'm confident the scum is in the red I outlined previously.

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  On 2/1/2017 at 9:21 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

I'm not as cleared as darthe and verb, and am not saying I should be either. The extent of my involvement of the solve is that I'm obviously not teammate with darthe or verb.

 

If I had been scum, I could have moved my vote to someone to make a 3-way tie between myself(Nini), nolynch(Verb), and someone. Not as clearing as 50/50 would be. This is before Darthe's last minute vote, of course.

 

I'm also clearing them because they would have to explain why they moved to me if the rand ended on no lynch.

 

Darthe has a better position here by far. He had been flipping on me so much in the past day that scum!darthe could just say he changed his mind again. That my push for no lynch wasn't a good enough reason. He didn't.

 

Verb has been defending me for a while. His move to me would be a lot harder to explain. I still think he's town, though.

So your remaining POE is me, AJ, nin. I'm town, so AJ and nin are what's left.

 

Having reread your posts I see what you mean and I think you've got this right.

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I'm probably about the same as you for my listing, Darthe.  I think I'd rather lynch Tina than AJ, but I'm open to discussion once everybody else chimes in.

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  On 2/1/2017 at 5:14 PM, Ironeyes said:

 

  On 2/1/2017 at 9:21 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

I'm not as cleared as darthe and verb, and am not saying I should be either. The extent of my involvement of the solve is that I'm obviously not teammate with darthe or verb.

 

If I had been scum, I could have moved my vote to someone to make a 3-way tie between myself(Nini), nolynch(Verb), and someone. Not as clearing as 50/50 would be. This is before Darthe's last minute vote, of course.

 

I'm also clearing them because they would have to explain why they moved to me if the rand ended on no lynch.

 

Darthe has a better position here by far. He had been flipping on me so much in the past day that scum!darthe could just say he changed his mind again. That my push for no lynch wasn't a good enough reason. He didn't.

 

Verb has been defending me for a while. His move to me would be a lot harder to explain. I still think he's town, though.

So your remaining POE is me, AJ, nin. I'm town, so AJ and nin are what's left.

 

Having reread your posts I see what you mean and I think you've got this right.

 

 

IMO, you haven't shown this, so the POE still includes you.  Darthe's read on you needs to be taken into consideration as he's probably town, but still.....

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I see. I was speaking from my own perspective, not that of the collective town. I know my alignment even if I've done a terrible job showing it

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Verb, how did you go from this:

 

  On 1/31/2017 at 9:59 PM, Verbal32 said:

Tina prob not scum - I don't see scum actively trying to force a lynch when they can just sit back and play patty cake with the town.

 

fwiw

 
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  On 2/1/2017 at 2:06 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 1/31/2017 at 11:00 PM, Sooh said:

That's a..... deadline

 

No lynch (3): Eldrick, Verbal, Darthe 

 

Eldrick (1): Niniel

 

Not voting (2): Ironeyes, AJ,

 

4 to lynch

 

Eldrick is correct.

 

Scum can't be 2 out of the 3 on No Lynch.  The most it can be is 1, but even that is not as likely due to what Eldrick said about it tying the votes and going to a coin flip to decide whether the game ends right there.  Darthe as scum could easily have made that vote look somewhat ok, and I'm not scum......so my conclusion is that Eldrick is right and none of us are scum (most likely).  I was already town reading Eldrick, so I'm sticking with that.

 

Both scum are in the red, imo.  Even after seeing the logic for a No Lynch, Tina still decides to put a VERY risky vote onto Eldrick near EOD.  Unless I hear something pretty damn amazing to clear her, I'm probably going to push her lynch tomorrow.

 

 

 

And it is very likely that I'm dying tonight based on that EOD.

 

 

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  On 1/31/2017 at 9:59 PM, Verbal32 said:

Tina prob not scum - I don't see scum actively trying to force a lynch when they can just sit back and play patty cake with the town.

 

fwiw

 
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Just POE, Tina.  The way EOD went down makes me think Darthe or Eldrick isn't scum.  That I know I'm not, means my POE is with the rest of you:

 

you

marsh

aj

 

So now I revise my reads as a result, and I don't like the push towards Eldrick there.  I can accept I can be wrong, which is why I asked for discussion.

 

 

 

 

Not to mention we are in night phase, so I'm trying to tempt scum to do something I want them to do in order for me to gain better reads on people.  Thanks for blowing that out of the water, btw.

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  On 2/1/2017 at 7:44 PM, Niniel said:

Oh, you actually think I can read any kind of hints or clues. :D That was funny. 

 

Explain why you voted Eldrick when the wrong lynch would have lost us the game?  I don't recall a concise case from you on why he's scum, but I may have missed it.

 

Pls explain.

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