[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

[Verbal32]

 

 

I believe I have a very good reason to do so in this game.

No one except Dice has even attempted to challenge that and I am waiting on him to explain his position.

I disagree with your assertion because Mafia is not black and white or played in a vacuum.

The play is unconventional and potentially stupid but it's hard to find scummy motive to it unless you believe it would have caused an immediate counter claim and that was his ultimate goal.

You mean besides "scum wouldn't do that so he had to be town"?

 

Or my already established reason of getting us to talk about who is and isn't the watcher.

 

 

Is that the crux of why you find Darthe scummy?

[Andrej]

Good morning.

For wifi, I just want an example. A quote or something so I can see where your coming from.

I don't have the time atm to post any long, detailed posts (I am in between lectures atm), so you can expect one of those later today for my current stance on everyone

I'd appreciate that.

 

Wifi is mostly gut. Most of us know that she is confusing but there's been a few posts where she is laying her thought process bare to the thread and it strikes me as genuine. I don't really find a pretense in her posts and don't feel like she's trying to paint anyone in a bad light.

 

I could be wrong. My word isn't gospel so you all can disagree, I never said she's untouchable and don't expect to be followed. More interaction with her may give me better reads elsewhere but I'm not personally suspicious.

[Verbal32]

 

Good morning.

For wifi, I just want an example. A quote or something so I can see where your coming from.

I don't have the time atm to post any long, detailed posts (I am in between lectures atm), so you can expect one of those later today for my current stance on everyone

I'd appreciate that.

 

Wifi is mostly gut. Most of us know that she is confusing but there's been a few posts where she is laying her thought process bare to the thread and it strikes me as genuine. I don't really find a pretense in her posts and don't feel like she's trying to paint anyone in a bad light.

 

I could be wrong. My word isn't gospel so you all can disagree, I never said she's untouchable and don't expect to be followed. More interaction with her may give me better reads elsewhere but I'm not personally suspicious.

 

 

I'm ok with this explanation.  More time is fine.

[Andrej]

Are you caught up Verb?

[Verbal32]

yes

[Andrej]

Cool. Any thoughts?

[Niniel]

I liked that Darthe´s post started this game right away. I think it will be useful to look back at this day when we have a death or two. I don´t have many thoughts right now. I like Eldrick and Lenlo best so far. Eldrick because he is open with his thoughts and doesn´t seem to care to look "correct". I didn´t like his vote on AJ but it felt "genuin". Lenlo has pointed out some things that I noticed as well. 

[Andrej]

I liked that Darthe´s post started this game right away. I think it will be useful to look back at this day when we have a death or two. I don´t have many thoughts right now. I like Eldrick and Lenlo best so far. Eldrick because he is open with his thoughts and doesn´t seem to care to look "correct". I didn´t like his vote on AJ but it felt "genuin". Lenlo has pointed out some things that I noticed as well.

 

What do you think of Nolder's latest posts?

[Ironeyes]

Heylo! Looks like a lot happened. I liked Bop's list for the most part, although I have to disagree with putting Wifi in the town section. She's null to me at best. 

 

Eldrick's response to our pressure was ok, but I still think I'll end up voting that way if nothing else major happens. 

 

I think there were two or three posts I saw in my catch up that I need to respond to... 

[Ironeyes]

 

 

I really don't understand the fuss. Darthe always pulls stuff like this. It really doesn't raise his scum equity at all

Its like folks never learn. Even if I am the watcher that would be a fake claim from me.

 

Btw, marsh looks super relaxed.

 

 

What does that mean to you?

 

 

 

 

Work keeps interrupting, so I'm still on page 7

 

If it helps, Darthe reads me exceptionally well when I'm vanilla. It usually takes him just a few pages to figure out that I'm not stressing about how best to use my role. I'm assuming that's what "relaxed" is supposed to mean

[Ironeyes]

 

real talk: other than the 20 or so posts before I entered the thread this morning(or posts quoted inside them) i didn't read much before that and in the last 40 minutes everytime i sit down and go to look at them i instead find something else to do, so i've given up trying and decided to go for some real time interactions.

 

this is where i'm currently at(based on tone/impressions or a combination of the two):

 

villagy:

clov

 

leaning villagy:

aj

 

villagy but less confident than above

lenlo

verbal

dice

wifi

 

???:

ironeyes

hallia

darthe

niniel

 

stinkeye:

nolder

 

wolfy:

eldric

 

 

thoughts concerns comments

I agree with this for the most part. Of course if it were my own list I'd move myself to lock town, and I'd add Bop under "lean villagy." And I'd switch Wifi and Hallia. 

[Verbal32]

Cool. Any thoughts?

 

Yeah - still very suss of Eldrick, much less for Wifi - kinda agree with your stance on her.  Nolder seems ok right now - he did some work to defend himself, and that isn't his norm for scum.  He'd rather have you pull the evidence and prove your point, not the other way around.  AKA, a good look.

 

Null on Darthe so far, same for you.  I can see this "guiding the thread" coming from either alignment for you, so you & Darthe occupy my 'waiting' category as far as a read goes.

 

Not much else, really.

[Verbal32]

Though if I had a gun, I'd still prob yolo shoot Darthe for lulz.  I mean, it can't work any worse than last game, right?  ;-)

[Niniel]

 

I liked that Darthe´s post started this game right away. I think it will be useful to look back at this day when we have a death or two. I don´t have many thoughts right now. I like Eldrick and Lenlo best so far. Eldrick because he is open with his thoughts and doesn´t seem to care to look "correct". I didn´t like his vote on AJ but it felt "genuin". Lenlo has pointed out some things that I noticed as well.

What do you think of Nolder's latest posts?

 

 

Not much. I iso´d him and much of it is talking about people having the wrong meta reads on him. I didn´t vote for a meta reason though.

 

Heylo! Looks like a lot happened. I liked Bop's list for the most part, although I have to disagree with putting Wifi in the town section. She's null to me at best. 

 

Eldrick's response to our pressure was ok, but I still think I'll end up voting that way if nothing else major happens. 

 

I think there were two or three posts I saw in my catch up that I need to respond to... 

 

Why do you want to vote Eldrick? Maybe you have posted why earlier?

[Andrej]

@Marsh - why is Hallia a villager iyo?

 

Also can you explain the read on Eldrick?

[MrsClov]

Afternoon lovelies, 

I thought about where I'm at in the game and reviewed my notes. Here's where I'm at on each player, so far.

 

 

AJ:

• I feel like he's sort of been the voice of reason of the thread. He's been posting his thoughts a lot in the thread, and given pretty good explanations for them.  Would not lynch today. 

Darthe:

•  Obviously has been a topic of debate today. Whether the claim with discuss attached to it actually intended to get a discussion going or not, it did. At this point, I can't see Mafia opening themselves up like that. Would not lynch today.

Bopolis:

• I don't hate his reads list. It's fairly similar to mine, with a few changes. But overall, I feel like I can follow his train of thought pretty well. I thought he responded well to how he knew so much about the Nolder/Darthe thing if he hasn't really played here before. Probably wouldn't lynch today.

Niniel: 

• This is gut feels mostly, but I felt like her posts seemed genuine and I liked the points she made on Nolder. I'd like to see more from her, but probably wouldn't lynch today. 

Verbal: 

• I don't have many notes on him yet. I need to go back and read his posts. Null so far. 

Wildfire:

• I can't follow her thoughts at all. It still bugs me how all over the place she was about her Darthe "read". When she explained it, it didn't really feel much better about it or make me able to follow her thoughts any better. I also didn't agree with the options she gave for Darthe and AJ claiming. I feel that there's more than just the two options she gave. Would lynch. 

Dice: 

• I think he made an interesting point about what he thought Darthe was doing with his claim. His vote on Hallia is interesting, and I'll discuss it a bit more when I get to Hallia.  Null so far, but probably wouldn't lynch today.

Eldrick: 

• His early post about setup bothered me, and my reply to it about fishing was mildly a joke. I did want to see how he'd react to it though. I felt like for a good chunk of this phase he's been going after really weird things in the thread. Things I deem insignificant so  I definitely saw him as scummy. His more recent posts look better, and I think he's done a decent job of explaining himself in them. I think I need to take a step back on this one because I don't know if I'm on the verge of tunneling him or not. Might or might not lynch. 

Nolder: 

• Originally, I was not crazy about his Darthe vote. Based on his comments, and others, it made it clear there was a feud between them, so it felt like a policy lynch. He's came back in and explained himself. I really like that he countered the comment of he votes darthe in 100% of games with previous games and reasons. Would not lynch. 

 

Ironeyes: 

• I don't really have much to say on him. Null for right now.

 

Hallia:

• She's not making me feel great. She hasn't really given a ton of thoughts other than to point out to the Darthe dislikers that he was actaully putting his thoughts in the thread. She's been pretty quiet, and I was pretty null on her until her conversation with Dice. I thought it was pretty obvious that Dice was getting at a watcher/seer cover sort of thing. Her responses to him seemed odd to me. Instead of saying why she thinks someone is town, she's just quoted a post and said they were moved to her town pile. I don't really feel like that many of her thoughts were original either. She said she was on the fence about Nolder and Eldrick, but I don't know that she's came back and said more on it. I tried to get her to, but she kind of brushed off my question. 
  
  Sorry other Linds, but [v]Hallia[/v]

[Andrej]

@Nini - I remember why you voted him. I was curious whether or not your opinion had changed since he posted more content.

[Andrej]

 

Cool. Any thoughts?

 

 

Yeah - still very suss of Eldrick, much less for Wifi - kinda agree with your stance on her.  Nolder seems ok right now - he did some work to defend himself, and that isn't his norm for scum.  He'd rather have you pull the evidence and prove your point, not the other way around.  AKA, a good look.

 

Null on Darthe so far, same for you.  I can see this "guiding the thread" coming from either alignment for you, so you & Darthe occupy my 'waiting' category as far as a read goes.

 

Not much else, really.

I'm not sold on scum!Eldrick but I'm also aware that I tend to give him a lot of slack. I'm good with your others reads though.

 

Maybe you're actually a townie this game which would be a welcome change :)

[Lenlo]

Where am I in that list?

[MrsClov]

Where am I in that list?

Omg. Sorry Lenlo. I was trying to figure out who I forgot. :( 

 

 

[MrsClov]

 

Afternoon lovelies, 

 

I thought about where I'm at in the game and reviewed my notes. Here's where I'm at on each player, so far.

 

 

AJ:

• I feel like he's sort of been the voice of reason of the thread. He's been posting his thoughts a lot in the thread, and given pretty good explanations for them.  Would not lynch today. 

Darthe:

•  Obviously has been a topic of debate today. Whether the claim with discuss attached to it actually intended to get a discussion going or not, it did. At this point, I can't see Mafia opening themselves up like that. Would not lynch today.

Bopolis:

• I don't hate his reads list. It's fairly similar to mine, with a few changes. But overall, I feel like I can follow his train of thought pretty well. I thought he responded well to how he knew so much about the Nolder/Darthe thing if he hasn't really played here before. Probably wouldn't lynch today.

Niniel: 

• This is gut feels mostly, but I felt like her posts seemed genuine and I liked the points she made on Nolder. I'd like to see more from her, but probably wouldn't lynch today. 

Verbal: 

• I don't have many notes on him yet. I need to go back and read his posts. Null so far. 

Wildfire:

• I can't follow her thoughts at all. It still bugs me how all over the place she was about her Darthe "read". When she explained it, it didn't really feel much better about it or make me able to follow her thoughts any better. I also didn't agree with the options she gave for Darthe and AJ claiming. I feel that there's more than just the two options she gave. Would lynch. 

Dice: 

• I think he made an interesting point about what he thought Darthe was doing with his claim. His vote on Hallia is interesting, and I'll discuss it a bit more when I get to Hallia.  Null so far, but probably wouldn't lynch today.

Eldrick: 

• His early post about setup bothered me, and my reply to it about fishing was mildly a joke. I did want to see how he'd react to it though. I felt like for a good chunk of this phase he's been going after really weird things in the thread. Things I deem insignificant so  I definitely saw him as scummy. His more recent posts look better, and I think he's done a decent job of explaining himself in them. I think I need to take a step back on this one because I don't know if I'm on the verge of tunneling him or not. Might or might not lynch. 

Nolder: 

• Originally, I was not crazy about his Darthe vote. Based on his comments, and others, it made it clear there was a feud between them, so it felt like a policy lynch. He's came back in and explained himself. I really like that he countered the comment of he votes darthe in 100% of games with previous games and reasons. Would not lynch. 

 

Ironeyes: 

• I don't really have much to say on him. Null for right now.

 

Hallia:

• She's not making me feel great. She hasn't really given a ton of thoughts other than to point out to the Darthe dislikers that he was actaully putting his thoughts in the thread. She's been pretty quiet, and I was pretty null on her until her conversation with Dice. I thought it was pretty obvious that Dice was getting at a watcher/seer cover sort of thing. Her responses to him seemed odd to me. Instead of saying why she thinks someone is town, she's just quoted a post and said they were moved to her town pile. I don't really feel like that many of her thoughts were original either. She said she was on the fence about Nolder and Eldrick, but I don't know that she's came back and said more on it. I tried to get her to, but she kind of brushed off my question. 

   

  Sorry other Linds, but [v]Hallia[/v]

 

Quoting so all of my reads can be together, again sorry Lenlo. Oversight on my part.

 

Lenlo:

• I liked that he was more concerned with the reactions to Darthe's post instead of Darthe's actual post. He's  made really good points on Wildfire. For the most part I feel good about what he's been saying, and I can follow his train of thought. Would not lynch today.

[Ironeyes]

@Marsh - why is Hallia a villager iyo?

 

Also can you explain the read on Eldrick?

Hallia is a gut read. I don't really have anything concrete for her yet 

 

Eldrick is my first choice to vote because I think he's casting shade in a lot of directions at once. It's a scum tell that I'm pretty sensitive to, and it's worked out well for me in the past--for instance on D1 I correctly scumread Clov in Demon's Cove and Snow in Tarmon Gaidon because they were casting shade at people and trying to set up future mislynches. I'll admit that after being challenged on it, Eldrick responded well enough by not jumping immediately to an easier target, but I'm still suspicious of him. 

 

 

 

I liked that Darthe´s post started this game right away. I think it will be useful to look back at this day when we have a death or two. I don´t have many thoughts right now. I like Eldrick and Lenlo best so far. Eldrick because he is open with his thoughts and doesn´t seem to care to look "correct". I didn´t like his vote on AJ but it felt "genuin". Lenlo has pointed out some things that I noticed as well.

What do you think of Nolder's latest posts?

 

 

Not much. I iso´d him and much of it is talking about people having the wrong meta reads on him. I didn´t vote for a meta reason though.

 

Heylo! Looks like a lot happened. I liked Bop's list for the most part, although I have to disagree with putting Wifi in the town section. She's null to me at best. 

 

Eldrick's response to our pressure was ok, but I still think I'll end up voting that way if nothing else major happens. 

 

I think there were two or three posts I saw in my catch up that I need to respond to... 

 

Why do you want to vote Eldrick? Maybe you have posted why earlier?

 

I thought I did but just for clarity's sake see above. 

[Niniel]

@Nini - I remember why you voted him. I was curious whether or not your opinion had changed since he posted more content.

 

No, not really. But at the same time there is so little to go on. My vote might not be the best but it´s the best I have for now. 

[MrsClov]

 

 

• She's not making me feel great. She hasn't really given a ton of thoughts other than to point out to the Darthe dislikers that he was actaully putting his thoughts in the thread. She's been pretty quiet, and I was pretty null on her until her conversation with Dice. I thought it was pretty obvious that Dice was getting at a watcher/seer cover sort of thing. Her responses to him seemed odd to me. Instead of saying why she thinks someone is town, she's just quoted a post and said they were moved to her town pile. I don't really feel like that many of her thoughts weren't original either. She said she was on the fence about Nolder and Eldrick, but I don't know that she's came back and said more on it. I tried to get her to, but she kind of brushed off my question. 

   

  Sorry other Linds, but [v]Hallia[/v]

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FTFM

[Andrej]

I think you were correct the first time MrsClov