DEMONOLOGY - GAME THREAD

[Darthe]

Possible slip

[Zander?]

 

I forgot Amega was playing.

 

 

Also not sure what to make of JiF being all philosophical and lecture-y.

 

I'm trying to make a game that is 60 pages deep, move.  Literally, nothing is going on other than calling people town.

I'll step off my soap box and leave it alone.  

Just very different around here and it's a little overwhelming to read 60 pages of nothing. 

 

 

Just need a little bit of elbow grease to get things going here....business always picks up boo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Darthe]

@shad that leelou vote is out of left field. Tbh I forgot she way playing

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

I have a plan.

 

If we can't find a wolf by EoD we lynch Nolder.

unvote, vote Shad

A little late in the game for joke votes when you've done nothing, wouldn't you say?

It's not a joke.

Been periodically poking my head in for a response. I was kind of hoping to hear this answer.

 

Because in the game that just ended on JN you were recruited cult D1 while I was a villager. You sussed me for saying I was willing to joke lynch Verbal, and you stuck to that pretty much all game. It didn't matter after a while because I got recruited cult D2, but you know from recent experience that I do this as villager: wolf!you tried to lynch me for it.

 

And while that game was wonky because everyone became cult eventually, I think if you felt you were on to something here you would have bothered to check and see what my alignment was at the time. I just checked yours. Took about 2 minutes.

 

It's reminiscent of when I strung you up in Star Wars for pushing Aiel Heart for something you had literally just seen her do as town in the previous game.

 

ergo Vote Leelou

K, I'm town though. *blows kiss*

 

 

 

Aaaaannnd dammit

[Leelou]

 

Hi Boo Boo

Sup shorty?

It snowed earlier and it's still all pretty out :)

[Darthe]

That's not bad Darthe.

 

I'd say I'm just as equally capable of recognizing townies as Town but I also understand how to posture as a wolf and would do so in the way you're describing.

 

Don't hate the insight though

Yeah im ok at this mafia thing

[Tiinker]

 

That's not bad Darthe.

 

I'd say I'm just as equally capable of recognizing townies as Town but I also understand how to posture as a wolf and would do so in the way you're describing.

 

Don't hate the insight though

Yeah im ok at this mafia thing

 

no ur not

[Darthe]

https://media.tenor.co/images/5310092e6c4d9e99688e5f6a3f07143b/raw

[Zander?]

This is mostly a gut feeling list, based on some interesting theories I'm not prepared to share at this time because I don't think it's in town's best interest, plus a decent helping of meta for my townies and process of elimination.  I may be able to explain some of these, I may totally be unable to either because I'm not willing to theorize on thread or because I did this off the top of my head.  Categories are roughly ordered as best I could do in 10 minutes of thought.  If and when these change in the future, I should be able to explain the changes, at least.

 

It's probably completely utterly worthless to most of you, but I expect at least one or two will find this post enlightening about where I'm coming from.

 

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Most probable town:

15. dice

21. Zander

19. Shad

14. Kaylee

 

Feeling pretty good about these in general:

7. Andrej

11. Tinker

1. Darthe

12. Not Bob

17. David Hermes

 

Not on my "willing to entertain a lynch" list:

20. Boo Boo

5. Lee

 

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Need more content to decide (or may need to ISO):

 

8. Ironeyes - hello, Marsh, please come and play....

 

13. Crusher

16. amegakure

18. Krakalaka

6. Pralaya

 

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The POE, in vague order of WTL:

 

3. Lenlo

10. Nolder

 4. Verb

9. John Snow

 

I'll try to keep current at work today and may run through some ISOs to determine my final decision - hoping for more to work from in the bottom half of the list.  As of right now I'm heavily leaning toward voting Snow.  We don't appear to be looking at the game the same way, and that makes me unsure we feel the same way about the demons.

 

You really have a grasp on that many people this early in the game?!?!?!!?

 

..............

[Darthe]

It takes like 8 people to put pressure on someone in this game! Whyy??

 

Im going to stick with my [V] john snow[/v]

[Darthe]

It's easy when you already know the alignments Zander.

 

But tress will come out in time

[Zander?]

The reason I can't get that behind a David lynch is because the trajectory of his play has been the following:

 

"Hey guys, nice to meet you."

"I'm going to try and find my footing here and have a bit of fun."

"God damn I'm catching a bit of heat I better say I was joking to make it clear."

"My ass is basically now on fire. I've got to retaliate and show them I'm not gonna be shoved around even if what I'm saying doesn't make coherent sense. Non chalant mode engaged."

"Okay, we seem to have come to some sort of agreement somehow. Time to be a bit aloof."

"Cool."

 

It was more awkward than something that was going to super ping my scumdar. This has happened to new visitors again and again, albeit a few details changed, on DM because they're the first people everyone jumps on because people aren't familiar with them. If I read his posts from a standpoint of "nervous returning character" then I can buy all the shit that he's saying whereas if I read it as scum then some of it is just wtf.

 

This is a good post from Tink imo.

[Andrej]

 

That's not bad Darthe.

 

I'd say I'm just as equally capable of recognizing townies as Town but I also understand how to posture as a wolf and would do so in the way you're describing.

 

Don't hate the insight though

Yeah im ok at this mafia thing

We're a lot alike you know

[Zander?]

vote Lenlo

 

Villagery AF

[Andrej]

Snow is at 5 I think

 

Now we're cookin'

[Zander?]

Tress: thanks, held to see where you stand. You actually gave the most players in your list and that helps a lot.

 

Basically I liked your post.

 

Is no one else bothered by the reads list like I was?!!?!?!?

[Tiinker]

 

Tress: thanks, held to see where you stand. You actually gave the most players in your list and that helps a lot.

 

Basically I liked your post.

 

Is no one else bothered by the reads list like I was?!!?!?!?

 

Boobie was.

[Tiinker]

Snow is at 5 I think

 

Now we're cookin'

 

John Snow about to become John Water.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

You make that sound like the only correct way is your way, which is not true.  JiF has been playing his way on JN for years, and he's done well.

 

I think the biggest difference is the amount of subtlety used.  JiF and I both come from a mafia time/place that prefers more subtlety than the way mafia is played now on a lot of sites (POG, MU, etc).

 

Two routes to the same destination, imo.

 

I signed up for a second game at JN because I liked it, not because I want to change it.  

 

But I'm going to be a bit defensive when for two straight games strangers show up to tell us how much our playstyle sucks.  I took deserved heat for doing the same in my first JN game. 

 

 

FWIW - I'm not saying your play style "sucks" here.  Just seems highly inefficient.  I think 60 pages and not a single train probably supports that thought...but all good, I'll leave it alone.  I wasnt trying to be all preachy. Just trying to figure out why the tendency is town hunt rather than scum hunt and why you guys thinks it effective. 

 

 

I'm not entirely sure a DPR game is a good example of why the "new DM" playstyle has become the norm here, just sayin'.  There are mechanics to be considered with this game that makes a 60 page D1 with no serious trains not entirely useless, all told.  

 

It's a different approach than when I started playing, to be sure... it seems to work well for me with my personality type, I'm a much more intuitive player and in order to spend a lot less time analyzing post by post early on (some of the older players may remember my Giant Spreadsheet of Doom) I have forced myself to sort the field by gut feelings and then get into more detail the people I'm less likely to think are town.  Once the field narrows, I spend a lot more time in ISO for everyone, even the ones I felt good about D1.

 

 

Hey youre not an E....?!?!?!?

 

Queue Lenlo freak out in.....

 

lolololololol

[Zander?]

 

 

 

I have a plan.

 

If we can't find a wolf by EoD we lynch Nolder.

unvote, vote Shad

A little late in the game for joke votes when you've done nothing, wouldn't you say?

It's not a joke.

 

 

???

 

Really...then why did you vote him???

[Andrej]

 

Tress: thanks, held to see where you stand. You actually gave the most players in your list and that helps a lot.

 

Basically I liked your post.

Is no one else bothered by the reads list like I was?!!?!?!?

Not really

[Andrej]

 

Snow is at 5 I think

 

Now we're cookin'

John Snow about to become John Water.

[Zander?]

 

-snip-

 But I has no team mates ,_, at least not any that I'm aware of. (hint hint the right people will know what I mean by that)

 

 

In case people want to get some clarification on my playstyle: firstly I'm town. Sometimes I comment to fish for reactions. Since I have a certain role, I'm trying to find hints for who else has roles that are relevant to me in the game.

And I do like to joke/troll to frustrate you guys

 

 

Yeah, definitely happy here. Rereading David, I caught these. These two posts, paired, read as Symp. 

 

 

This post reminds me of your mechanic # of scum post from Tarmon Gaidin.....

 

You were a Wolf that game right?!?!!?

[John Snow]

 

 

-snip-

 But I has no team mates ,_, at least not any that I'm aware of. (hint hint the right people will know what I mean by that)

 

 

In case people want to get some clarification on my playstyle: firstly I'm town. Sometimes I comment to fish for reactions. Since I have a certain role, I'm trying to find hints for who else has roles that are relevant to me in the game.

And I do like to joke/troll to frustrate you guys

 

 

Yeah, definitely happy here. Rereading David, I caught these. These two posts, paired, read as Symp. 

 

 

This post reminds me of your mechanic # of scum post from Tarmon Gaidin.....

 

You were a Wolf that game right?!?!!?

 

 

Should remind you of me guessing what role and character wifi's hydra thought they'd flip in Ragnarok. 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

-snip-

 But I has no team mates ,_, at least not any that I'm aware of. (hint hint the right people will know what I mean by that)

 

 

In case people want to get some clarification on my playstyle: firstly I'm town. Sometimes I comment to fish for reactions. Since I have a certain role, I'm trying to find hints for who else has roles that are relevant to me in the game.

And I do like to joke/troll to frustrate you guys

 

 

Yeah, definitely happy here. Rereading David, I caught these. These two posts, paired, read as Symp. 

 

 

Wot.

 

How did you get symp? 

 

 

I've only played one game with a symp, but here's what I remember. 

They cop as town (check)

They are not aware of their scum team and cannot win without them (check)

They need their team to recruit them to join them, and therefore need to somehow signal them in thread (check)

 

-snip-

 But I has no team mates ,_, at least not any that I'm aware of. (hint hint the right people will know what I mean by that)

 

 

 

This post is giving me the creeps.