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Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 1:15 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 12:34 PM, 鲍勃不是我的名字 said:

Good vote, glad to see you join the party.

So my eyes glazed over around page 5, what actually happened from pg 5-22?

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 1:31 PM, dicetosser1 said:

i tried to get zander lynched while he was asleep but all these wimps wouldnt do it.

 

there were some opportunistic votes which remain unsubstantiated

 

zander seems a little sus of shad

 

tress was declared to be townie by me.

 

nb wants darthe lynched   as does nolder.

 

 

think thats a fair summation but you should read it 

 

Kids these days...

 

Ill sum it up for you Leelou

 

- Zander rands Town and his Towniess floods the thread with its usual greatness.

- Scum!Dice tries to get Town!Zander lynched while sleeping, but like with most things Dice, he comes up short.

- Other people say WORDS

- Zander thinks Shad/Dice seem a little off atp.

- Zander tells Leelou what has happened with GOAT TL:DR

- Zander says youre welcome!!!!!

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:07 PM, Tiinker said:

Unsurprising but I've got Shad and Zander as town

 

#raisins?!?!?!

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 2:24 PM, BooBoo said:

10 pages in and I have some observations:

 

- you weirdo's talk in a different language and it's hard to follow

 

- I get really excited when Nyn, Leelou and Kaylee post - HOT HOT HOT!!!!!

 

- I get really creeped out when David posts and he seemed to start taking things super serious when it seemed like everyone else was playing patty cakes.

 

- I can already tell none of you are on my level and I'm not sure what to make of it yet. 

 

JIF <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

BooBoo Enthusiast

BooBoo

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  On 1/5/2017 at 2:51 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:42 PM, BooBoo said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:38 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

Mafia is the name, meta is the game. Some people like to determine who's in their town crew from D1 based on meta and this lets them get a better idea of who's scum in later days. Not my way necessarily but it's worked for them. There have been games where a wrong D1 read screws them later in the game. Or mafia get snuffed pretty quick.

 

 

Meh, meta is weak sauce.  And I dont know anyone's meta, so it's completely useless from me.  And using meta doesnt mean you have to declare people town, in fact, it would be more useful to do the opposite. Declaring people town is stupid and provides cover.  It's a terrible way of scum hunting because it isnt scum hunting.

 

 

Explain the bold.

 

It's not like declaring someone town makes it a consensus. I think facilizing it to just "meta" wasn't really fair on my part. They play with each other so much that they know how the other person thinks and can judge how he or she would respond in certain situations. I think it's fair enough if you genuinely think you know someone well enough that you can anticipate certain types of responses basically before they've been made. 

 

 

Sure - first and foremost, when you start to declare people as town, it allows them to manipulate that particular player and or it can provide cover for a player who maybe isnt town.  It also, in many cases, can influence the decision making of players who may arent super convicted or on the fence.  I'm a good example of that.  I dont know anyone meta to confirm or deny others thoughts.  So I could easily just sheep others thoughts. Luckily for all you, I dont play way.  Scum or Wolf can play into someone reading your town when you're not.  In general, dismissing someone as town with little to no information based on nothing other than meta, does nothing to actually provoke any type thought that will advance the game.  In fact, it does the complete opposite.  It makes people lazy.  It makes the game lazy.  You can keep that thought to yourself and it's more effective while you hunt for scum.  

 

And if you're entire point is about anticipation of what someone would say, then this must be the easiest place to play as scum or wolf in the history of mafia.

 

All that said, you can find scum or a wolf based off their meta being different occasionally but I'm going to venture to say it doesnt happen often.  The thing is, in that scenario, you're using meta to call them scum, not town.  So again, its counterproductive to just go around calling people town all game long. 

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

LDO= Like D'uh Obviously

 

GOAT- Greatest of All Time

 

imo- In my Opinion

 

 

People try to use #SOULREADS like they know whats what.....but seriously its easy for Scum to hide behind tho admittedly with how much some of us play together Meta will lead people to make these early substantiated reads as Town as well.

BooBoo Enthusiast

BooBoo

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:30 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

LDO= Like D'uh Obviously

 

GOAT- Greatest of All Time

 

imo- In my Opinion

 

 

People try to use #SOULREADS like they know whats what.....but seriously its easy for Scum to hide behind tho admittedly with how much some of us play together Meta will lead people to make these early substantiated reads as Town as well.

 

 

Thanks.  Your quickly becoming my 2nd favorite poster in the history of the interwebz.  

 

I wish I was scum this game and I hate being scum.  This place would be a cake walk just based on D1 #soulreads. 

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 2:37 PM, Nolder said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

It's the equivalent of saying you're going to get a grand slam every time you're at bat without even possibly knowing if the bases will be loaded or not.

They just think it's cool to make calls they can't possibly be making and then when they statistically turn out to be true they pat each other on the back about how good they are.

It's sad.

 

 

Nolder is Town

 

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Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:00 PM, Songstress said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:57 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:32 AM, Songstress said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:28 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:23 AM, Songstress said:

#ZanderCatchUp complete!

 

it seems lacking....lolololololol

 

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I am not nearly as good at it as you are, my dear.... lololol

 

 

pocketattemptdenied.gif?!!?!?!?!

 

 

Pssssh.  If I were trying to pocket you, you'd be warm and cozy and half asleep before you know it. 

 

 

 

......Yes Ma'am.......

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 3:02 PM, Songstress said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:59 PM, Zander said:

Tell me more about me and what you like about me?!?!!?!?

 

You, you, you... it's all about you!  

 

Well, unlike some people I know, I don't put my every thought in the thread as I have it.  I have my reasons.  There will be more later.  For now, I'm trusting my gut and some vague unsubstantiated reasons.  I like to watch and formulate thoughts behind the scenes for a while.

 

 

Ya i hate people who do that stuff....

 

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Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:12 PM, Verbal32 said:

Zander, you do realize the high probability that Dice was just messin' with ya, right?

 

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:15 PM, Verbal32 said:

Has the time for Spidey passed, or are we still a go?

 

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:18 PM, Verbal32 said:

*you're

 

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DPR Spam Master

DPR

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:30 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

LDO= Like D'uh Obviously

 

GOAT- Greatest of All Time

 

imo- In my Opinion

 

 

People try to use #SOULREADS like they know whats what.....but seriously its easy for Scum to hide behind tho admittedly with how much some of us play together Meta will lead people to make these early substantiated reads as Town as well.

 

 

 

Wolf / Wolfy / Deep Wolf = Scum, but with a bit of repressed sexual fantasy pertaining to the desire to dress up as a furry animal in hopes of mating with another furry animal.

 

Villager / Villergery / Vanillager = Town

 

Rand = Main character in Jordan's Wheel of Time book series. 

 

Aids = I still have no idea what this means. 

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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I'll be snipping quotes to address what I"m talking about.

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 3:54 AM, David Hermes said:

If the votes on Dice pick up, then I'll swtich my vote to him.

 

Anyways ima take a nap.

 

Just a heads up, I don't think I can have a normal day if I keep checking over this thread every few minutes, so I'll be checking in every hour or few hours so my activity will be low unless I'm feeling bored.

 

Hopefully I won't have lots of pages to catch up on every time I log in

 

I really don't like this.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 3:59 AM, David Hermes said:

*Snipped quote*

 

This is a good reason as any to lynch Dice hahahaha

 

 

 

Kidding aside I just feel Dice is trying to push votes or suspicion on Darthe and Zander. Maybe he's trying to get an easy lynch or something

 

 

Can you please explain this? I didn't get the same impression and I'd like to see where you got it from.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:01 AM, Shad_ said:

Zander Dice Darthe Hermes is my village right now.

Zander's pretty much locked in, rest of you can fall out fast.

lol @ my persistent delusion that I know how to read Dice

 

Shad: what have they done to make you town read them? Summarizing is ok, just don't remember you saying why before. If you did and I missed it I"m sorry, please say it again.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:01 AM, David Hermes said:

*snipped*

 

yeah nice try Dice

I know your scummy tactics too well.

 

unvote Darthe

 

Vote Dice

 

 

I'm confused. Have you played with him recently? What are his scummy tactics that you saw? You said you haven't played in 5 years so unless you've played a game with him recently somewhere else this post doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:04 AM, David Hermes said:

*snipped*

 

eh, can't be bothered searching for a quote. It's all tentative at this stage so quoting is kinda meaningless until we get some results. Meaning that my reasonings are naturally going to be based on very weak supporting evidence, so whether I show a quote or not, I'm still just going with my feelings.

 

 

If you're reasoning is based on weak supporting evidence then you lied about knowing about Dice's meta...which is why you voted him. Not a good look.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:12 AM, Zander said:

 

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This does not read like a Villagery progression especially for someone who hasnt played here in like 5 years.

 

Thoughts???

 

Will throw his vote on me or Dice if it picks up for #raisins?

 

Kay len are hes not feeling for #raisins?

 

He wants to lynch/town read??? darthe for #idfk?!?!?!?

 

 

I actually like this post from Zander. It echos my own thoughts. Makes me feel kinda good about Zander.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:15 AM, Shad_ said:

I'll be said if Hermes is anything but a villager. I love this guy.

 

What makes you feel like he's town? With his recent post I mean, cuz I'm not getting that vibe.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:40 AM, Songstress said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:36 AM, dicetosser1 said:

so any reads miss tress?

 

Developing some, yes.   :smile:

 

I should be positive about you by the end of the day phase, feeling pretty good so far.   Liking Zander.  Kaylee should be town unless she's wholeheartedly focusing on pocketing me.  I skimmed a lot at work today so I'll probably need to reread before EOD, but there are a fair number of missing still.

 

 

It's posts like this that make me feel good about Tress. If she was trusting me and calling me town without hesitation then I'd know she was scum. Her hesitation and waiting to post more in depth thoughts is in line with her town meta. (I can read her and Nyn best meta wise. Everyone else I take meta with a grain of salt.)

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:10 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:39 AM, Kaylee said:

Zander is a hard read for me.

 

How come? I feel like you're the first person I've ever seen say this.

 

 

Could be. Let me put it this way. I often read him wrong. His style I don't get if that makes sense. Last game we played together he was mod confirmed IC (Innocent Child) and I still didn't trust him. He was almost playing against town. I suppose when I feel worst about him he's more likely town, but I can't use meta to read him. As far as his play goes I can see him making the posts as either alignment and it just keeps me second and third guessing his slot. Don't know if that was clear but it's what goes through my head reading him.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

ldo = Like duh obviously. Some of gthe acronyms I don't know. FTFY = fixed that for you. Not sure what other ones you need clarity on. If the quote the person and ask them it's the best way since then you know where they're coming from.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:42 PM, BooBoo said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:38 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

Mafia is the name, meta is the game. Some people like to determine who's in their town crew from D1 based on meta and this lets them get a better idea of who's scum in later days. Not my way necessarily but it's worked for them. There have been games where a wrong D1 read screws them later in the game. Or mafia get snuffed pretty quick.

 

 

Meh, meta is weak sauce.  And I dont know anyone's meta, so it's completely useless from me.  And using meta doesnt mean you have to declare people town, in fact, it would be more useful to do the opposite. Declaring people town is stupid and provides cover.  It's a terrible way of scum hunting because it isnt scum hunting.

 

 

I like this post. Shows how you think and could make it easier to read you since we've never played together before. While it isn't scum hunting it can be helpful. For instance with Tress and Nyn I use it to know if I can trust them when I'm town. I've played enough with them to know they're style. It's town hunting and can help clear the potential list of suspects. I don't lock them in for it, but I look elsewhere if I feel I can trust them. If they do something sketchy then I reevaluate, but otherwise I like to find at least one person I feel might be town.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:44 PM, BooBoo said:

Vote David

 

He was the first to take some patty cakes serious and started to dictate reads of jokey stuff and what I perceived as butt hurt.  He's all over the place too.  And I wont lie, the less I have to see that avatar the better.

 

Quoted this cuz you came in, caught up and are giving thoughts. I like.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:47 PM, Songstress said:

*snipped*


 

 

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Boo Boo is town.

 

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Have you played with him before? I don't understand how you got to that conclusion. I've liked his posts but not comfortable calling him town.

 

David isn't looking good. Not willing to vote him yet but do want him to respond.

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BooBoo

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:51 PM, Kaylee said:

I'll be snipping quotes to address what I"m talking about.

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 3:54 AM, David Hermes said:

If the votes on Dice pick up, then I'll swtich my vote to him.

 

Anyways ima take a nap.

 

Just a heads up, I don't think I can have a normal day if I keep checking over this thread every few minutes, so I'll be checking in every hour or few hours so my activity will be low unless I'm feeling bored.

 

Hopefully I won't have lots of pages to catch up on every time I log in

 

I really don't like this.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 3:59 AM, David Hermes said:

*Snipped quote*

 

This is a good reason as any to lynch Dice hahahaha

 

 

 

Kidding aside I just feel Dice is trying to push votes or suspicion on Darthe and Zander. Maybe he's trying to get an easy lynch or something

 

 

Can you please explain this? I didn't get the same impression and I'd like to see where you got it from.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:01 AM, Shad_ said:

Zander Dice Darthe Hermes is my village right now.

 

Zander's pretty much locked in, rest of you can fall out fast.

 

lol @ my persistent delusion that I know how to read Dice

 

Shad: what have they done to make you town read them? Summarizing is ok, just don't remember you saying why before. If you did and I missed it I"m sorry, please say it again.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:01 AM, David Hermes said:

*snipped*

 

yeah nice try Dice

I know your scummy tactics too well.

 

unvote Darthe

 

Vote Dice

 

 

I'm confused. Have you played with him recently? What are his scummy tactics that you saw? You said you haven't played in 5 years so unless you've played a game with him recently somewhere else this post doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:04 AM, David Hermes said:

*snipped*

 

eh, can't be bothered searching for a quote. It's all tentative at this stage so quoting is kinda meaningless until we get some results. Meaning that my reasonings are naturally going to be based on very weak supporting evidence, so whether I show a quote or not, I'm still just going with my feelings.

 

 

If you're reasoning is based on weak supporting evidence then you lied about knowing about Dice's meta...which is why you voted him. Not a good look.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:12 AM, Zander said:

 

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This does not read like a Villagery progression especially for someone who hasnt played here in like 5 years.

 

Thoughts???

 

Will throw his vote on me or Dice if it picks up for #raisins?

 

Kay len are hes not feeling for #raisins?

 

He wants to lynch/town read??? darthe for #idfk?!?!?!?

 

 

I actually like this post from Zander. It echos my own thoughts. Makes me feel kinda good about Zander.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:15 AM, Shad_ said:

I'll be said if Hermes is anything but a villager. I love this guy.

 

What makes you feel like he's town? With his recent post I mean, cuz I'm not getting that vibe.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:40 AM, Songstress said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:36 AM, dicetosser1 said:

so any reads miss tress?

 

Developing some, yes.   :smile:

 

I should be positive about you by the end of the day phase, feeling pretty good so far.   Liking Zander.  Kaylee should be town unless she's wholeheartedly focusing on pocketing me.  I skimmed a lot at work today so I'll probably need to reread before EOD, but there are a fair number of missing still.

 

 

It's posts like this that make me feel good about Tress. If she was trusting me and calling me town without hesitation then I'd know she was scum. Her hesitation and waiting to post more in depth thoughts is in line with her town meta. (I can read her and Nyn best meta wise. Everyone else I take meta with a grain of salt.)

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:10 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:39 AM, Kaylee said:

Zander is a hard read for me.

 

How come? I feel like you're the first person I've ever seen say this.

 

 

Could be. Let me put it this way. I often read him wrong. His style I don't get if that makes sense. Last game we played together he was mod confirmed IC (Innocent Child) and I still didn't trust him. He was almost playing against town. I suppose when I feel worst about him he's more likely town, but I can't use meta to read him. As far as his play goes I can see him making the posts as either alignment and it just keeps me second and third guessing his slot. Don't know if that was clear but it's what goes through my head reading him.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

ldo = Like duh obviously. Some of gthe acronyms I don't know. FTFY = fixed that for you. Not sure what other ones you need clarity on. If the quote the person and ask them it's the best way since then you know where they're coming from.

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:42 PM, BooBoo said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:38 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

Mafia is the name, meta is the game. Some people like to determine who's in their town crew from D1 based on meta and this lets them get a better idea of who's scum in later days. Not my way necessarily but it's worked for them. There have been games where a wrong D1 read screws them later in the game. Or mafia get snuffed pretty quick.

 

 

Meh, meta is weak sauce.  And I dont know anyone's meta, so it's completely useless from me.  And using meta doesnt mean you have to declare people town, in fact, it would be more useful to do the opposite. Declaring people town is stupid and provides cover.  It's a terrible way of scum hunting because it isnt scum hunting.

 

 

I like this post. Shows how you think and could make it easier to read you since we've never played together before. While it isn't scum hunting it can be helpful. For instance with Tress and Nyn I use it to know if I can trust them when I'm town. I've played enough with them to know they're style. It's town hunting and can help clear the potential list of suspects. I don't lock them in for it, but I look elsewhere if I feel I can trust them. If they do something sketchy then I reevaluate, but otherwise I like to find at least one person I feel might be town.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:44 PM, BooBoo said:

Vote David

 

He was the first to take some patty cakes serious and started to dictate reads of jokey stuff and what I perceived as butt hurt.  He's all over the place too.  And I wont lie, the less I have to see that avatar the better.

 

Quoted this cuz you came in, caught up and are giving thoughts. I like.

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:47 PM, Songstress said:

*snipped*

 

 

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Boo Boo is town.

 

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Have you played with him before? I don't understand how you got to that conclusion. I've liked his posts but not comfortable calling him town.

 

David isn't looking good. Not willing to vote him yet but do want him to respond.

 

I assumed song was being sarcastic as I just got done saying I thought declaring people as town was stupid.  Dont want to speak for her though.

BooBoo Enthusiast

BooBoo

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:55 PM, Kaylee said:

I am liking Boo Boo more the more he posts. Can't wait to get reads from him. Good vibes

 

See, the vibes.  I'm telling you.  I could feel it from jump street.  Some people just exude the similar energy.  

 

It's too bad you're married.  We could have something. 

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 4:00 PM, Kaylee said:

Cuz you almost never read me right?

 

What about them don't you like? Maybe I can clarify something for you.

 

Its hard to explain its like if a politician and a lawyer had kids they would be your posts.

 

Youre right tho I dont read you all that well.

 

Just something Im getting from reading them.

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