Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Pralaya]

 

 

 

Aargh, hate this situation. On top of it, i have a very busy day today. Not sure how much time I can devote.

 

I would prefer a no lynch.

I'm with you. Have to wait for my partner though, but I'm very with you.

 

I've already proposed it today myself.

 

You proposed lynching me and no lynch as a second option, but then you led with it. In a day with lock voting.

 

Im voting sock today, and the only way to prevent this is if dice/laya specifically say they are going to counter that by voting no lynch. I dont want this game decided by rand.

 

I won't be going with rand. If it is 2 votes on a person, I will follow it up. I prefer No Lynch purely because I was not able to dedicate time this day. It will not help us in any other way.

[Darthe]

I dont care to give you time if you really need it, but I think my case says more than enough and I think thats where we go anyways.

[Eldrick4221]

Your point against me there is assuming the scum perspective. I didn't know bfg's alignment. I worried about being wrong. I pointed out how we could salvage a loss if we were wrong.

 

And you just won't see that perspective. What's that say?

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

Aargh, hate this situation. On top of it, i have a very busy day today. Not sure how much time I can devote.

 

I would prefer a no lynch.

I'm with you. Have to wait for my partner though, but I'm very with you.

I've already proposed it today myself.

You proposed lynching me and no lynch as a second option, but then you led with it. In a day with lock voting.

 

Im voting sock today, and the only way to prevent this is if dice/laya specifically say they are going to counter that by voting no lynch. I dont want this game decided by rand.

Sooh preferred no lynch. It was an acceptable choice to me.

 

I preferred voting you.

 

We discussed it and I went with no lynch. Still wish it was on you.

[Eldrick4221]

I can't really do anything about whether or not Dice and pral see what I do. All I can do is point out what it is.

 

I agree that we will probably not be the kill tonight. We are by far the easiest one for you to try and push a ml on tonorrow.

 

You won't either, though.

 

So the question is will you kill dice or pral?

[Pralaya]

I dont care to give you time if you really need it, but I think my case says more than enough and I think thats where we go anyways.

Ah, screw it. I am fine voting sock.

 

I definitely don't think you are wolf. If you are, I don't think we could have ever caught you.

 

Only doubt is dice. But, wouldn't mind going with my earlier read and your analysis.

[Andrej]

Vote Count 5.05

 

No Lynch (1) - Sock

 

Not voting: Darthe, Dice, Pralaya

 

3 to lynch

 

DL in 9 hours

[Eldrick4221]

 

I dont care to give you time if you really need it, but I think my case says more than enough and I think thats where we go anyways.

Ah, screw it. I am fine voting sock.

 

I definitely don't think you are wolf. If you are, I don't think we could have ever caught you.

 

Only doubt is dice. But, wouldn't mind going with my earlier read and your analysis.

And right here is why we already lost. Town divided at the end.

 

I will feel accomplished if my read is right on Darthe, even if town loses.

[Eldrick4221]

You say you don't see how we could catch him.

 

If he's scum I'm town. Have already caught him.

[Eldrick4221]

Yup. No lynch = Darthe killing pral. Cuz pral won't vote Darthe.

 

If Darthe is wolf, we lost.

[Eldrick4221]

Killing dice*

[Eldrick4221]

Was about to appeal to dice to no lynch today so we could vote Darthe together tomorrow if he's so inclined.

 

And saw how that would fall apart if dice was killed.

[Eldrick4221]

Don't draw out the game. You guys will just end up voting me tomorrow anyway, whoever is left.

 

Go for it. Vote me. Lose it for town. I'm done.

[Sooh]

If we're the final scum, why is our vote on No lynch? Would we not want it available so we could hammer?

[dicetosser1]

Laya, I knew you're considering no lynch right now.

 

Dice, where are you on this?

 

Im moderately opposed since I think its sock, but im also not gonna have us go 2/2 split. Thats still a bad idea.

 

id rather lynch cause i think wolves make no kill and then we are back here

 

isoing pral

 

 

 

 

 

 

so no you cant point to anything ive done scummy

Btw, this was lolzy

 

 

glad u liked

[dicetosser1]

Maybe have to ignore Eldrick and read the game ! Don't care what alignment he is, I will let others read him ... too many posts

 

one of prals first posts. ignore eldrick

 

I am only about 40 pages into the game. Unlikely I will catch up before deadline. Just too many posts.

 

Thoughts so far:

 

Manbat felt townie in that outburst. Don't see him being that emotional as town. So is Nyn. 

Zander has looked fine despite his lower than usual posts. Typical as an early Zander game. 

 

Eldrick seems aggressive and posting a lot. Some posts stood out - like voting Manbat around the time he was active - which looked a bit opportunistic. And, his going after Darthe when he mentioned that he is not going to read the game. I would say he falls under the category of "too wolfy to be a wolf".

 

Notbob, Darthe and Dice seem null or they are playing like they usually do D1. 

 

One person I find odd is Shad. Not about the level of posting but he just looks like drifting through the game. His posts seem too passive and he is commenting on general stuff. That is really odd knowing how he plays. If at this point, I am asked who is scum, I would say Shad. 

 

next post   and it IS the next post in his iso   not only is he NOT ignoring him he has a read on him and puts some shade on him.

 

 

 

@ Pral need to see a lot out of you between now and DL glgl

 

I'll be back around 8 or 9 est.

 

It's midnight here, unfortunately. And, I am around 70% caught up. 

 

But, right now, my money is on you as scum. 

 

 

this sounds very certain. its a pretty blunt statement.

 

 

I'm kinda still in shock. Calder flipped BG and Shad is scum. I still don't believe Sock is scum, though the name of the game D1 will be going back to see Shads interactions and how people case him. I'll go back and try, but it depends on how fast the lynch happens

 

What is so shocking about that? Shad was looking like he was scum even in D1 and Calder likely died protecting you. Pretty straightforward.

 

 

this is post shad flip but it reads as "whyare you surprised? i knew it"

makes an assumption about calders action

[dicetosser1]

 

I'm in shock because until the results I hadn't felt they would flip that way. And with the talk of a strongman I didn't first assume BG could've protected me.

 

So that's where I'm at. And reading back.

I don't know. It looked like shad was scum and Calder was town, especially after his stance on NotBob end of day yesterday.

 

Personally, I would next look at Darthe and Zander because the next scum is likely in these two.

 

 

suddenly the stance on shad isnt so strong andf this is post flip.

 

names his next two saying scum ios betweene them probably

 

 

 

 

Not for nothing, but that's extremely easy to say when you weren't in it trying to figure people out, and you've got the results in front of you. If you're more active now, great, but saying it was easy to spot their alignment after the fact simply doesn't mean anything.

I'm more interested in what you think about the living.

 

 

Except I was saying Shad was scum right from D1. I had him figured out during my catch up and not after the results were known. All I am saying is that it is not shocking but expected.

 

 

reiterates that he called shad straight off.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm in shock because until the results I hadn't felt they would flip that way. And with the talk of a strongman I didn't first assume BG could've protected me.

 

So that's where I'm at. And reading back.

I don't know. It looked like shad was scum and Calder was town, especially after his stance on NotBob end of day yesterday.

 

Personally, I would next look at Darthe and Zander because the next scum is likely in these two.

 

 

didnt you have me as a Town read?!?!?

 

 

Yeah, that was early D1. Around 40 pages in.

You, of all people, should know that reads don't get fixed that early in the game. 

 

 

first head clash with zander

 

 

 

If youre Town were gonna have a talk post game about what bad Town is.

 

Youve got what like 2 votes on you like 8 hours before DL!?!?!?!?

 

No I dont believe that Town!Anyone really does this but to further my suss please notice the BOLD:

 

Why would you ever assume youd be alive D2?!?!?!!?

 

 

 

This outburst was what made me suspect Zander in the first place. yeah, random claiming early in D1 was not a good play. It could have been entirely avoided. But, the kind of outburst coming from you looks fake. Look at the reaction from Calder, sooh - it was more of surprise than anger. Anger is something that can easily be faked by scum to show that they are townie and I felt that was what was happening here

 

 

this is weird to me. prals played with zander. this is fairly controlled reaction from zander actually but still zanderish.

 

 

In fact, you harping on the entire "Pral likes to bus" narrative just confirms my read that you are scum. The town Zander I know would mention it but not make a whole case on that. You have been saying that right from D1 when I called out Shad as scum. And, this was around the point when random claimed and you were looking for an alternative. That was the scond reason why I started suspecting you.

 

(As an aside, Sooh would know - I do tend to bus as scum but I am more careful as scum when people who know that are around. Like in the PoTC game, I was not busing until Zander was dead. I even explicitly told it to Sooh who was my scummate there)

 

talks about his bussing meta

 

 

 

 

In fact, you harping on the entire "Pral likes to bus" narrative just confirms my read that you are scum. The town Zander I know would mention it but not make a whole case on that. You have been saying that right from D1 when I called out Shad as scum. And, this was around the point when random claimed and you were looking for an alternative. That was the scond reason why I started suspecting you.

 

(As an aside, Sooh would know - I do tend to bus as scum but I am more careful as scum when people who know that are around. Like in the PoTC game, I was not busing until Zander was dead. I even explicitly told it to Sooh who was my scummate there)

 

So you think ME pushing META is Scummy?!!?!?!?!

 

lolololololol

 

 

"Blindly pushing meta"

 

Pretty easy to do as scum

 

 

blindly pushing meta is what zander DOES.

[dicetosser1]

when is dl??

[Darthe]

We need to vote, id appreciate being hammer for the satisfaction but I can go first. Either way dice im not going laya. Its sock today or is sock tomorrow.

[Sooh]

4 hours I think.

[Andrej]

DL in 6 hours.

[dicetosser1]

well heeres the thing.

 

im not going sock.

 

im going either  pral or darthe

[dicetosser1]

see hers my thinking  pral was loud and called out BOTH scums straight away.

 

he wasnt veering off them

 

 

so why did zander die?

 

either prals scum and its a major bus job

 

 

or darthes scum leaving me and sock alivce for mislynch ops and pral cause pral wont vote him

 

 

so its one of the two for me

[Sooh]

Dice, you're looking extremely towny now. Sorry I couldn't see it before :(

[Darthe]

see hers my thinking pral was loud and called out BOTH scums straight away.

 

he wasnt veering off them

 

 

so why did zander die?

 

either prals scum and its a major bus job

 

 

or darthes scum leaving me and sock alivce for mislynch ops and pral cause pral wont vote him

 

 

so its one of the two for me

That is some awful tinfoil but tbf its townie of you. Im not down to rehash my cases, you can read and decide for yourself.