Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Sooh]

 

 

Darthe  Has been sane which is scary. Has sat on SOCK ALL game. Hasnt really been lookign elsewhere.While some think thats scummy its not something i see scum darthe doing. Also he posted a "i dont want a repeat of last game" that rang true to me. Wont be voting here. If I lose because of it so be it but thats where i am.

 

Pral   my problem with Pral is twofold  one is activity. I know hes been here. I know hes been after bfg and been weird on zander but i feel like hes been mia. its weird. and  i cant discount that he bussed BFG tho her vote could be to try and get him townie points.

 

Sock  just plain contradictory. i gave sooh a town ready for tone but since then there was a period where it seemed every second post from her was poking at me for no real reasons. not seeing when i did reply to things and bringing it up again asking if its replied to. then theres the fact that her and eldrick cant seem to agree on what month it is let alone any reads. Yet theyve somehow both managed to be sus on me.

 

Sock is where i will probably vote as of right now

What is contradictory?contradictory   you and eldrick on like EVERYTHING

I was poking at you because I was poking at everyone to find the correct mafia. Do you expect every town read you have to read you town back?

I missed ONE POST of yours where you replied to something. ONE POST. I also wasn't the only one to miss it, and you have yet to quote it to me. 

Perhaps, similarly to us, you've had instances where you've been scummy and warranted said suspicions. And don't give me crap about that I should be able to read you. When have I EVER been able to read you?

 

 

contradictory    are you serious??  You and eldrick have been opposite on almost EVERYTHING!

poking  yes you have been poking  but youve been poking on weird stuff like my word choice. But it felt like you would poke  let it rest then bring it up again like you didnt want it forgotten.

i think theres been a couple of posts uve missed but im willing to let that go. As for requoting it  why should I when your OWN PARTNER quoted and replied to it as did another player? Your supposed to be reading the thread after all.

 

Lastly I asked you earlier in the game to tell me what I have done that is scummy. Even said Quotes would be nice. You never respnded. Guess thats one of the posts you never saw. So i ask again sit here and tell me what I have done this game that is scummy. 

 

I don't automatically get a play by play from my partner "Dice replied to this!"

 

Ftr, Zander missed it too.

 

I ask you back then, what have you done that's not scummy? It feels really safe. Not safe safe, but Dice safe. Like I said before, the only thing I have that's suggesting it's not you is the vote change at the end of D3. 

[Sooh]

 

The only one of you 3 that I have any confidence in being town is Pral.

 

Bfg cased and pushed for Pral for most of the game (after she subbed in). The amount of effort she put into doing that just doesn't feel like something someone would do to a teammate.

 

Between dice and Darthe, I really have no idea.

 

Dice reasoning also falls in with what bfg did. I've mentioned it a few times. Her trying to clear him because of his reads list. Now we know that he didn't have both his teammates as town reads, because one of the scum was bfg herself. She was trying to clear him with misinformation.

 

Problem with this is while it leans my thinking to dice being scum, I can also see how it could be pocketing.

 

Darthe has been someone I have had trouble town reading. There were a couple reasons recently, but I realized they weren't good reasons to Town read him and he was back into the poe.

 

The fact that he took a couple of my posts out of context to make them sound like tmi is still really bugging me. Town tunneling and seeing every post as scummy is one thing, but this is more than that, I think.

 

Town to scum

Pral>Dice>Darthe

So you townread me, decided those werent gokd reasons for a read, I caught a wolf, and youre back to wolfreading me now for the old reasons. Also, you're not on the same page as your other half still.

 

Do I have that about right?

 

Excuse me? YOU caught a wolf?

 

You taking credit for nabbing BFG is laughable tbh. You read Pral's case, you read my case, you decided she was scummy so you voted.

[Sooh]

I also don't see any one of you taking into consideration anything I say in terms of the logical part of it. Once again you're just looking for scummy. 

[Pralaya]

Aargh, hate this situation. On top of it, i have a very busy day today. Not sure how much time I can devote.

 

I would prefer a no lynch.

[Sooh]

Aargh, hate this situation. On top of it, i have a very busy day today. Not sure how much time I can devote.

 

I would prefer a no lynch.

I'm with you. Have to wait for my partner though, but I'm very with you.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

Darthe  Has been sane which is scary. Has sat on SOCK ALL game. Hasnt really been lookign elsewhere.While some think thats scummy its not something i see scum darthe doing. Also he posted a "i dont want a repeat of last game" that rang true to me. Wont be voting here. If I lose because of it so be it but thats where i am.

 

Pral   my problem with Pral is twofold  one is activity. I know hes been here. I know hes been after bfg and been weird on zander but i feel like hes been mia. its weird. and  i cant discount that he bussed BFG tho her vote could be to try and get him townie points.

 

Sock  just plain contradictory. i gave sooh a town ready for tone but since then there was a period where it seemed every second post from her was poking at me for no real reasons. not seeing when i did reply to things and bringing it up again asking if its replied to. then theres the fact that her and eldrick cant seem to agree on what month it is let alone any reads. Yet theyve somehow both managed to be sus on me.

 

Sock is where i will probably vote as of right now

What is contradictory?contradictory   you and eldrick on like EVERYTHING

I was poking at you because I was poking at everyone to find the correct mafia. Do you expect every town read you have to read you town back?

I missed ONE POST of yours where you replied to something. ONE POST. I also wasn't the only one to miss it, and you have yet to quote it to me. 

Perhaps, similarly to us, you've had instances where you've been scummy and warranted said suspicions. And don't give me crap about that I should be able to read you. When have I EVER been able to read you?

 

 

contradictory    are you serious??  You and eldrick have been opposite on almost EVERYTHING!

poking  yes you have been poking  but youve been poking on weird stuff like my word choice. But it felt like you would poke  let it rest then bring it up again like you didnt want it forgotten.

i think theres been a couple of posts uve missed but im willing to let that go. As for requoting it  why should I when your OWN PARTNER quoted and replied to it as did another player? Your supposed to be reading the thread after all.

 

Lastly I asked you earlier in the game to tell me what I have done that is scummy. Even said Quotes would be nice. You never respnded. Guess thats one of the posts you never saw. So i ask again sit here and tell me what I have done this game that is scummy. 

 

I don't automatically get a play by play from my partner "Dice replied to this!"

 

Ftr, Zander missed it too.

 

I ask you back then, what have you done that's not scummy? It feels really safe. Not safe safe, but Dice safe. Like I said before, the only thing I have that's suggesting it's not you is the vote change at the end of D3. 

 

 

so no you cant point to anything ive done scummy

[Eldrick4221]

 

Aargh, hate this situation. On top of it, i have a very busy day today. Not sure how much time I can devote.

 

I would prefer a no lynch.

I'm with you. Have to wait for my partner though, but I'm very with you.

I've already proposed it today myself.

[Eldrick4221]

 

How is having a different viewpoint than Sooh even an issue?

 

It's the same as us being Masons, but we share a vote.

 

Expecting us to agree on everything is unrealistic.

wrong. You have a QT to thrash out your thoughts. Being at different reads on one maybe two people? acceptable. But you two have literally been at opposites on almost every single thing in the game. Do you not talk in ure QT? or is the thread ure QT?? Cause at times that seems like what it is.

 

And you act like you're the only one that caught a wolf. Pral and I got her too.

 

When you didn't immediately vote, and instead discussed it first, I said it was a good sign because if she ended up being town, then you not jumping on was a sign that it wasn't 2 townies on a Town train, followed by scum finishing it off.

 

Being she flipped scum, that reason goes out the window. You waiting to vote her is null.

Technicall all of us got her so thats not saying much

Just because we discuss things doesn't mean we agree on reads. And we shouldn't be expected to. We see things differently.

 

Yes we have to find common ground for our vote, but that's as far as that goes.

 

 

As for you also helping take bfg down, that only reinforces my point. Darthe was acting like his doing so was important.

[Eldrick4221]

[V]No lynch [/v]

[Andrej]

Vote Count 5.04

 

No Lynch (1) - Sock

 

Not voting: Darthe, Dice, Pralaya

 

3 to lynch

 

DL in 14 hours

[Darthe]

Laya, I knew you're considering no lynch right now.

 

Dice, where are you on this?

 

Im moderately opposed since I think its sock, but im also not gonna have us go 2/2 split. Thats still a bad idea.

[Sooh]

Laya, I knew you're considering no lynch right now.

 

Dice, where are you on this?

 

Im moderately opposed since I think its sock, but im also not gonna have us go 2/2 split. Thats still a bad idea.

Why are you opposed?

 

Literally all three of you have said we're your main suspect. What would you have to lose by going to F3?

 

I mean, unless you're scum and you're trying to get the win today.

[Darthe]

 

You literally were giving me town credit for my vote timing yesterday at EoD before the flip, and now that she flipped wolf you're saying it was null??

The town credit was literally only if she flipped town because you held off.

 

Being she flipped scum, the reason for the town credit is null.

Get this. If she flipped town, my town credit wouldnt have mattered. She flipped wolf, and me holding off despite casing her is neutral iyo.

 

Why then, did the read matter at all? Why even mention it?

[Darthe]

 

There it is. If those three are all town then this game is over.

After I voted.

Bfg (2): Pral, sock

 

It's a good sign that you aren't jumping on tbh.

One of bfg/pral/Darthe is scum.

 

If we are all 3 town, Darthe would have just voted.

This is with the viewpoint of us being wrong, bfg being town, and all scum had to do was hammer and win. That didn't happen, so either bfg was scum, or Darthe was town.

 

 

 

One of bfg/pral/Darthe is scum.

 

If we are all 3 town, Darthe would have just voted.

Assuming that you're town, that is.

Darthe's response for context.

 

Yes, but the fact that you pointed it out instead of just voting says to me it's not that we are all town and you are scum.

My response. The response that has produced the confusion. The word "not" is the integral part of the post.

 

Because he didn't just vote, the setup is NOT that we are all 3 town and Darthe is scum. Because he didn't vote right away, if bfg was town, Darthe probably was too.

Ok I follow, I just think it's a vie for town cred in a situation where this info isn't useful. I also think that you can read further into eod then mechanics.

[Darthe]

Now. Since we know this isn't the case. That bfg was scum, how does Darthe deciding to talk about it instead of vote look?

 

Does it look like someone that wants to bus, but needs to build up to it first?

I was talking bfg, and casing her before she was drawing votes, and I voted her when that train began to stall and zander/bfg were really digging into laya. Thats what you are missing or ignoring.

[Darthe]

And to reiterate, the town cred for not voting right away was only if she was town, as I clearly stated when I said it.

 

Misrep #3.

Do you know what misrep means? It's hard to misrep someone who contradicts themselves and their hydra head every ten pages.

[Darthe]

Wtv

1. Darthe

2. No lynch

Is it a misrep to say that you flip flopped on the no lynch bit?

[Darthe]

 

 

If bfg is town, we already lost

 

If bfg is town, we already lost

Unless it's pral and darthe

 

 

 

If bfg is town, we already lost

Unless it's pral and darthe

wed still lose right?!!?!?!?!?.....!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Not if you and dice vote pral

Then it's rand

These three posts come right before Dice hammers. I think this seals it beyond any reasonable doubt, but I'm still gonna wait to get final input from you two.

I'd LOVE to see how you're gonna try and turn this against me.

It's you pushing for a rand over outright lynching a known wolf not 10 minutes before lylo EoD. Turn what against you? This is scummy as hell.

[Darthe]

Quoted my "if bfg is town, we already lost" post.

 

Then my explanation on how we could salvage from a loss if she was.

 

And THAT is scummy exactly how?

Twtbaw pass denied, you fearmongered a "but what if she isnt guiz" post after a halfhearted lock vote on her then try and get other people to vote The other way from where you just voted.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Darthe Has been sane which is scary. Has sat on SOCK ALL game. Hasnt really been lookign elsewhere.While some think thats scummy its not something i see scum darthe doing. Also he posted a "i dont want a repeat of last game" that rang true to me. Wont be voting here. If I lose because of it so be it but thats where i am.

 

Pral my problem with Pral is twofold one is activity. I know hes been here. I know hes been after bfg and been weird on zander but i feel like hes been mia. its weird. and i cant discount that he bussed BFG tho her vote could be to try and get him townie points.

 

Sock just plain contradictory. i gave sooh a town ready for tone but since then there was a period where it seemed every second post from her was poking at me for no real reasons. not seeing when i did reply to things and bringing it up again asking if its replied to. then theres the fact that her and eldrick cant seem to agree on what month it is let alone any reads. Yet theyve somehow both managed to be sus on me.

 

Sock is where i will probably vote as of right now

Bold: Why is the word THOUGH in there? If it wasn't bussing, why would he be trying to get townie points?

Its things like this that I find wolfiest from you. All these little snipey questions, just like you did with me yesterday.

What's snipey about it? it's a question about a sentence that doesn't make sense.

Its really reaching to find dirt that makes others look a touch worse in a time where reads are critical and paranoia is high. What isnt snipey about it?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Darthe Has been sane which is scary. Has sat on SOCK ALL game. Hasnt really been lookign elsewhere.While some think thats scummy its not something i see scum darthe doing. Also he posted a "i dont want a repeat of last game" that rang true to me. Wont be voting here. If I lose because of it so be it but thats where i am.

 

Pral my problem with Pral is twofold one is activity. I know hes been here. I know hes been after bfg and been weird on zander but i feel like hes been mia. its weird. and i cant discount that he bussed BFG tho her vote could be to try and get him townie points.

 

Sock just plain contradictory. i gave sooh a town ready for tone but since then there was a period where it seemed every second post from her was poking at me for no real reasons. not seeing when i did reply to things and bringing it up again asking if its replied to. then theres the fact that her and eldrick cant seem to agree on what month it is let alone any reads. Yet theyve somehow both managed to be sus on me.

 

Sock is where i will probably vote as of right now

What is contradictory?contradictory you and eldrick on like EVERYTHING

I was poking at you because I was poking at everyone to find the correct mafia. Do you expect every town read you have to read you town back?

I missed ONE POST of yours where you replied to something. ONE POST. I also wasn't the only one to miss it, and you have yet to quote it to me.

Perhaps, similarly to us, you've had instances where you've been scummy and warranted said suspicions. And don't give me crap about that I should be able to read you. When have I EVER been able to read you?

contradictory are you serious?? You and eldrick have been opposite on almost EVERYTHING!

poking yes you have been poking but youve been poking on weird stuff like my word choice. But it felt like you would poke let it rest then bring it up again like you didnt want it forgotten.

i think theres been a couple of posts uve missed but im willing to let that go. As for requoting it why should I when your OWN PARTNER quoted and replied to it as did another player? Your supposed to be reading the thread after all.

 

Lastly I asked you earlier in the game to tell me what I have done that is scummy. Even said Quotes would be nice. You never respnded. Guess thats one of the posts you never saw. So i ask again sit here and tell me what I have done this game that is scummy.

I don't automatically get a play by play from my partner "Dice replied to this!"

 

Ftr, Zander missed it too.

 

I ask you back then, what have you done that's not scummy? It feels really safe. Not safe safe, but Dice safe. Like I said before, the only thing I have that's suggesting it's not you is the vote change at the end of D3.

You cant build a case for someone being a wolf in all they havent done to convince you one way or the other. This makes it sound like you're pushing him on PoE.

[Darthe]

 

 

Aargh, hate this situation. On top of it, i have a very busy day today. Not sure how much time I can devote.

 

I would prefer a no lynch.

I'm with you. Have to wait for my partner though, but I'm very with you.

I've already proposed it today myself.

You proposed lynching me and no lynch as a second option, but then you led with it. In a day with lock voting.

 

Im voting sock today, and the only way to prevent this is if dice/laya specifically say they are going to counter that by voting no lynch. I dont want this game decided by rand.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Darthe Has been sane which is scary. Has sat on SOCK ALL game. Hasnt really been lookign elsewhere.While some think thats scummy its not something i see scum darthe doing. Also he posted a "i dont want a repeat of last game" that rang true to me. Wont be voting here. If I lose because of it so be it but thats where i am.

 

Pral my problem with Pral is twofold one is activity. I know hes been here. I know hes been after bfg and been weird on zander but i feel like hes been mia. its weird. and i cant discount that he bussed BFG tho her vote could be to try and get him townie points.

 

Sock just plain contradictory. i gave sooh a town ready for tone but since then there was a period where it seemed every second post from her was poking at me for no real reasons. not seeing when i did reply to things and bringing it up again asking if its replied to. then theres the fact that her and eldrick cant seem to agree on what month it is let alone any reads. Yet theyve somehow both managed to be sus on me.

 

Sock is where i will probably vote as of right now

What is contradictory?contradictory you and eldrick on like EVERYTHING

I was poking at you because I was poking at everyone to find the correct mafia. Do you expect every town read you have to read you town back?

I missed ONE POST of yours where you replied to something. ONE POST. I also wasn't the only one to miss it, and you have yet to quote it to me.

Perhaps, similarly to us, you've had instances where you've been scummy and warranted said suspicions. And don't give me crap about that I should be able to read you. When have I EVER been able to read you?

contradictory are you serious?? You and eldrick have been opposite on almost EVERYTHING!

poking yes you have been poking but youve been poking on weird stuff like my word choice. But it felt like you would poke let it rest then bring it up again like you didnt want it forgotten.

i think theres been a couple of posts uve missed but im willing to let that go. As for requoting it why should I when your OWN PARTNER quoted and replied to it as did another player? Your supposed to be reading the thread after all.

 

Lastly I asked you earlier in the game to tell me what I have done that is scummy. Even said Quotes would be nice. You never respnded. Guess thats one of the posts you never saw. So i ask again sit here and tell me what I have done this game that is scummy.

I don't automatically get a play by play from my partner "Dice replied to this!"

 

Ftr, Zander missed it too.

 

I ask you back then, what have you done that's not scummy? It feels really safe. Not safe safe, but Dice safe. Like I said before, the only thing I have that's suggesting it's not you is the vote change at the end of D3.

so no you cant point to anything ive done scummy

Btw, this was lolzy

[Darthe]

 

Laya, I knew you're considering no lynch right now.

 

Dice, where are you on this?

 

Im moderately opposed since I think its sock, but im also not gonna have us go 2/2 split. Thats still a bad idea.

Why are you opposed?

 

Literally all three of you have said we're your main suspect. What would you have to lose by going to F3?

 

I mean, unless you're scum and you're trying to get the win today.

Oh look, more turnarounds.

 

We have nothing to gain by going to F3, save for time.

 

Heres possible outcomes:

 

No kill, tomorrow we are right back here a day later, wolves safed.

 

I die, I no longer have input on the game and WIFOM why I was the one killed

 

Laya dies, see above but with him

 

Dice dies, see above

 

You die, never gonna happen

 

 

Problem is, we are talking about actively weakening the town in the hopes that the wolves will make a play they know benefits us, and has no benefit to them.

 

Why would they ever kill one of us tonight unless it was going to help them?

[Darthe]

@laya, if you dont have much time just plz read my EoD analysis responses today, and how they responded to all of that. I think the last three pages should really put this whole thing in psrspective.