Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

@Cass

 

Still waiting on reads from you.

 

Cass is just prolly Scum.

 

Go look at TG where me and her were hydra partners and compare it to here.

 

Theres no manic ENFP thoughts, no paranoia.

 

I know Cass is ALWAYS super busy in RL but she doesnt seem to have the same WIM here as there and its a much different feel and look from her imo.

 

She's got the MANIC down, but I don't see the THOUGHTS.

 

 

Disagree greatly, especially since im ENFP as well.

 

Go ISO Cass in TG and tell me shes the same?!?!!?

 

Goes for everybody.

 

No time to ISO now, but I will say that Cass' OMGHYPER!!!! posts this game have given me pause. It's like I don't believe her kind of?

 

 

This

[BFG]

Work will pay £60 for me to have a reliable internet connection for the week right? I have 3 posts trying to send and don't know if any will make it through

 

@Zander, I'll reread Nyn when I get there but I'm less bothered about the read on you and more by the lack of other stuff

[Sooh]

 

 

 

What we know: 

 

Shad flipped Goon, so the scums must have either picked just one power, or one power plus recruiting traitor. That's the maximum that this setup allows for.

 

I don't know which it is, but if there's one more town power it would confirm that the traitor has been recruited. That means that IF we have a non-outed town PR, that person KNOWS the traitor has been recruited.

 

Scum had 4 choices so can you please explain how the recruitment ITSELF verifies or confirms what youre saying please?!?!!?!

 

With pleasure.

 

These are the mechanics:

 

HACK THE PLANET

The setup:

 

9 Townies

2 Mafia Goons

1 Mafia Traitor

 

Mechanics:

 

Day start with role modifiers. All players will be randomized an alignment. The three Mafia-aligned players will then be randomized into two Goons and the Traitor. Pre-game, the two Goons will have 24 hours to deliberate and pick up to 2 of the following modifiers for their team:

 

1) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia Role Cop

2) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia JOAT (1x Ninja, 1x Strongman)*

3) Change a Mafia Goon into a Bulletproof Mafia Goon

4) Recruit Mafia Traitor to a Mafia Goon

 

If they didn't pick to recruit the traitor they could have chosen two other modifiers which would have made both goons roled.

 

Shad flipped goon, which means he didn't have a role. 

 

We have 3 PRs revealed (ok, Random isn't confirmed yet, but let's assume he is).

 

That means that the mafia picked at least one modifier.

 

If they had picked two and neither of the two were recruiting the traitor, Shad would have had a role.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know there are 3 Scum right, with only 1 Scum flip regardless of role, there still 2 more Scum left right?!!?!?!?!

 

Well, Shad flipped regular goon, so assuming the traitor hasn't been recruited the remaining regular scum wouldn't know who their partner was.

 

 

There are still 2 more Scum, and whether or not one the traitor or not still doesnt change the fact theyre 2 more Scum left in the game. 

 

I dont know who is what or what they know but unless AJ lied to us, the OP stated there will be 3 total Scum.

 

That's not what I mean. You were asking if they suspected you, who your last partner would be, and if there's a traitor the regular goon doesn't immediately have that information, so they wouldn't have that in mind while making the posts in the game, thus making the last partner difficult to find.

 

 

IT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT WE HAVE TO GET RID OF 2 MORE SCUM!!!!!

 

3 Scum- 1 rekt Scum!Shad= 2 Scum.

 

Its like saying with 2 SCum im noly gonna have 1 person in my PoE.

 

It dont change the fact we still have 2 Scum left in the game and everyone still has to account for that.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know there are 3 Scum right, with only 1 Scum flip regardless of role, there still 2 more Scum left right?!!?!?!?!

 

Well, Shad flipped regular goon, so assuming the traitor hasn't been recruited the remaining regular scum wouldn't know who their partner was.

 

 

There are still 2 more Scum, and whether or not one the traitor or not still doesnt change the fact theyre 2 more Scum left in the game. 

 

I dont know who is what or what they know but unless AJ lied to us, the OP stated there will be 3 total Scum.

 

That's not what I mean. You were asking if they suspected you, who your last partner would be, and if there's a traitor the regular goon doesn't immediately have that information, so they wouldn't have that in mind while making the posts in the game, thus making the last partner difficult to find.

 

 

 

 

IT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT WE HAVE TO GET RID OF 2 MORE SCUM!!!!!

 

3 Scum- 1 rekt Scum!Shad= 2 Scum.

 

Its like saying with 2 SCum im noly gonna have 1 person in my PoE.

 

It dont change the fact we still have 2 Scum left in the game and everyone still has to account for that.

 

Nobody is saying that there isn't 3 scums in the game. 

 

If that's what you think we're saying you're reading it wrong.

[Ironeyes]

 

Sock

Zander

 

 

Dice

 

My feelings on the remaining players: 

 

Town: 

Marsh

Random

 

Town lean: 

Darthe

Sock

Dice

 

Towny null: 

Cass

 

Scummy null: 

Pral

 

Scum lean: 

Zander

 

 

 

Gun to the head WTL Pral or Zander right now. But I hope we can get a clearer picture, especially with BFG here to move Cass out of the Null pile. 

[Ironeyes]

Ah crap. I was using that quote as a checklist to make sure I didn't leave out anyone but I forgot to delete it after. Ignore that part please... 

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

Sock

Zander

 

 

Dice

 

My feelings on the remaining players: 

 

Town: 

Marsh

Random

 

Town lean: 

Darthe

Sock

Dice

 

Towny null: 

Cass

 

Scummy null: 

Pral

 

Scum lean: 

Zander

 

 

 

 

 

Gun to the head WTL Pral or Zander right now. But I hope we can get a clearer picture, especially with BFG here to move Cass out of the Null pile. 

 

1. Where is Amega/BFG?

2. Why would BFG being here result in moving Cass out of any pile?

[randomh3r0]

@zander yes, I know there is three scum. I've said this multiple times. What we don't know is if traitor was recruited. If not, there are effectively 2 scum teams, 1 and 2 person. Assuming they're working together means assuming they recruited IMO

[BFG]

Also Hi Marsh :)

[randomh3r0]

 

 

 

For D2 and N2 I've operated under the assumption Zander is likely town. Posts like this keep pinging me though. He already knew Shad was scum when this was posted, so asking about his partner reads almost like he assumes / knows the traitor has been recruited, which I don't think we've establish through Shad's flip either way. Just a thought.

You have now placed a suspicion in my head that I can't get rid of. Zander why are you covered in tinfoil!?

Sorry mate, I gotta say it all before I turn in my night action

[Zander?]

 

 

What we know: 

 

Shad flipped Goon, so the scums must have either picked just one power, or one power plus recruiting traitor. That's the maximum that this setup allows for.

 

I don't know which it is, but if there's one more town power it would confirm that the traitor has been recruited. That means that IF we have a non-outed town PR, that person KNOWS the traitor has been recruited.

 

Scum had 4 choices so can you please explain how the recruitment ITSELF verifies or confirms what youre saying please?!?!!?!

 

With pleasure.

 

These are the mechanics:

 

HACK THE PLANET

The setup:

 

9 Townies

2 Mafia Goons

1 Mafia Traitor

 

Mechanics:

 

Day start with role modifiers. All players will be randomized an alignment. The three Mafia-aligned players will then be randomized into two Goons and the Traitor. Pre-game, the two Goons will have 24 hours to deliberate and pick up to 2 of the following modifiers for their team:

 

1) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia Role Cop

2) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia JOAT (1x Ninja, 1x Strongman)*

3) Change a Mafia Goon into a Bulletproof Mafia Goon

4) Recruit Mafia Traitor to a Mafia Goon

 

If they didn't pick to recruit the traitor they could have chosen two other modifiers which would have made both goons roled.

 

Shad flipped goon, which means he didn't have a role. 

 

We have 3 PRs revealed (ok, Random isn't confirmed yet, but let's assume he is).

 

That means that the mafia picked at least one modifier.

 

If they had picked two and neither of the two were recruiting the traitor, Shad would have had a role.

 

 

It just seems like theres a lof of ifs here.

 

but i can kinda see what youre saying

[Zander?]

 

 

 

For D2 and N2 I've operated under the assumption Zander is likely town. Posts like this keep pinging me though. He already knew Shad was scum when this was posted, so asking about his partner reads almost like he assumes / knows the traitor has been recruited, which I don't think we've establish through Shad's flip either way. Just a thought.

You have now placed a suspicion in my head that I can't get rid of. Zander why are you covered in tinfoil!?

 

 

 

 

 

Sock

Zander

 

 

Dice

 

My feelings on the remaining players: 

 

Town: 

Marsh

Random

 

Town lean: 

Darthe

Sock

Dice

 

Towny null: 

Cass

 

Scummy null: 

Pral

 

Scum lean: 

Zander

 

 

 

Gun to the head WTL Pral or Zander right now. But I hope we can get a clearer picture, especially with BFG here to move Cass out of the Null pile. 

 

 

I know youre a Villager but please tell me how you got from him just placing a suspicion there to me being your top Scum read!?!?!!??!

 

Dude Im Town,

 

ISO me and tell me what you think!!!!

[Zander?]

Work will pay £60 for me to have a reliable internet connection for the week right? I have 3 posts trying to send and don't know if any will make it through

 

@Zander, I'll reread Nyn when I get there but I'm less bothered about the read on you and more by the lack of other stuff

 

fair enough

 

lmk when youre all caught up and ISO's done.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

What we know: 

 

Shad flipped Goon, so the scums must have either picked just one power, or one power plus recruiting traitor. That's the maximum that this setup allows for.

 

I don't know which it is, but if there's one more town power it would confirm that the traitor has been recruited. That means that IF we have a non-outed town PR, that person KNOWS the traitor has been recruited.

 

Scum had 4 choices so can you please explain how the recruitment ITSELF verifies or confirms what youre saying please?!?!!?!

 

With pleasure.

 

These are the mechanics:

 

HACK THE PLANET

The setup:

 

9 Townies

2 Mafia Goons

1 Mafia Traitor

 

Mechanics:

 

Day start with role modifiers. All players will be randomized an alignment. The three Mafia-aligned players will then be randomized into two Goons and the Traitor. Pre-game, the two Goons will have 24 hours to deliberate and pick up to 2 of the following modifiers for their team:

 

1) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia Role Cop

2) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia JOAT (1x Ninja, 1x Strongman)*

3) Change a Mafia Goon into a Bulletproof Mafia Goon

4) Recruit Mafia Traitor to a Mafia Goon

 

If they didn't pick to recruit the traitor they could have chosen two other modifiers which would have made both goons roled.

 

Shad flipped goon, which means he didn't have a role. 

 

We have 3 PRs revealed (ok, Random isn't confirmed yet, but let's assume he is).

 

That means that the mafia picked at least one modifier.

 

If they had picked two and neither of the two were recruiting the traitor, Shad would have had a role.

 

 

 

 

It just seems like theres a lof of ifs here.

 

but i can kinda see what youre saying

 

How do you feel about asking a potential final PR to reveal its existence at the start of D3 to confirm whether or not we have a traitor?

 

I mean, I don't think it would make a world of difference, but at the same time people seem to be really caught up in whether or not we do, and it would be easier possibly to look for a connection between players. 

 

[Disclaimer: Hypothetical discussion only.]

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

What we know: 

 

Shad flipped Goon, so the scums must have either picked just one power, or one power plus recruiting traitor. That's the maximum that this setup allows for.

 

I don't know which it is, but if there's one more town power it would confirm that the traitor has been recruited. That means that IF we have a non-outed town PR, that person KNOWS the traitor has been recruited.

 

Scum had 4 choices so can you please explain how the recruitment ITSELF verifies or confirms what youre saying please?!?!!?!

 

With pleasure.

 

These are the mechanics:

 

HACK THE PLANET

The setup:

 

9 Townies

2 Mafia Goons

1 Mafia Traitor

 

Mechanics:

 

Day start with role modifiers. All players will be randomized an alignment. The three Mafia-aligned players will then be randomized into two Goons and the Traitor. Pre-game, the two Goons will have 24 hours to deliberate and pick up to 2 of the following modifiers for their team:

 

1) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia Role Cop

2) Change a Mafia Goon into a Mafia JOAT (1x Ninja, 1x Strongman)*

3) Change a Mafia Goon into a Bulletproof Mafia Goon

4) Recruit Mafia Traitor to a Mafia Goon

 

If they didn't pick to recruit the traitor they could have chosen two other modifiers which would have made both goons roled.

 

Shad flipped goon, which means he didn't have a role. 

 

We have 3 PRs revealed (ok, Random isn't confirmed yet, but let's assume he is).

 

That means that the mafia picked at least one modifier.

 

If they had picked two and neither of the two were recruiting the traitor, Shad would have had a role.

 

 

 

 

It just seems like theres a lof of ifs here.

 

but i can kinda see what youre saying

 

How do you feel about asking a potential final PR to reveal its existence at the start of D3 to confirm whether or not we have a traitor?

 

I mean, I don't think it would make a world of difference, but at the same time people seem to be really caught up in whether or not we do, and it would be easier possibly to look for a connection between players. 

 

[Disclaimer: Hypothetical discussion only.]

 

Actually nvm. It's too easy to exploit for scums and it would reveal a valuable PR if we do have another.

[BFG]

Ok, smaller posts are posting better

 

@Zander - everyone knows there are 2 mafia alive, Random was saying that the remaining original goon only know who their living partner is IF they'd recruited him. When you ask 'who your partner would be' it looks like you know the traitor was recruited

[Sooh]

Ok, smaller posts are posting better

 

@Zander - everyone knows there are 2 mafia alive, Random was saying that the remaining original goon only know who their living partner is IF they'd recruited him. When you ask 'who your partner would be' it looks like you know the traitor was recruited

Watch him get it when you say it.

[Zander?]

Ok, smaller posts are posting better

 

@Zander - everyone knows there are 2 mafia alive, Random was saying that the remaining original goon only know who their living partner is IF they'd recruited him. When you ask 'who your partner would be' it looks like you know the traitor was recruited

 

Yes im asking HIM,  who your (being me) partners would be,

 

i dont care about recruit or not there are 3 Scum, only 1 factional NK cause traitor dont get unless BOTH the other Scum are dead and according to the sample role pm;s all Scum roles have the same Wincon.

[Sooh]

 

Ok, smaller posts are posting better

 

@Zander - everyone knows there are 2 mafia alive, Random was saying that the remaining original goon only know who their living partner is IF they'd recruited him. When you ask 'who your partner would be' it looks like you know the traitor was recruited

 

Yes im asking HIM,  who your (being me) partners would be,

 

i dont care about recruit or not there are 3 Scum, only 1 factional NK cause traitor dont get unless BOTH the other Scum are dead and according to the sample role pm;s all Scum roles have the same Wincon.

 

lol nope

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

 

 

Sock

Zander

 

 

Dice

 

My feelings on the remaining players: 

 

Town: 

Marsh

Random

 

Town lean: 

Darthe

Sock

Dice

 

Towny null: 

Cass

 

Scummy null: 

Pral

 

Scum lean: 

Zander

 

 

 

 

 

Gun to the head WTL Pral or Zander right now. But I hope we can get a clearer picture, especially with BFG here to move Cass out of the Null pile. 

 

1. Where is Amega/BFG?

2. Why would BFG being here result in moving Cass out of any pile?

 

That's embarrassing. I combined them in my head. Throw BFG in the nulls, between Cass and Pral. THAT's who I want moved out of the nulls. 

[Zander?]

 

 

Ok, smaller posts are posting better

 

@Zander - everyone knows there are 2 mafia alive, Random was saying that the remaining original goon only know who their living partner is IF they'd recruited him. When you ask 'who your partner would be' it looks like you know the traitor was recruited

 

Yes im asking HIM,  who your (being me) partners would be,

 

i dont care about recruit or not there are 3 Scum, only 1 factional NK cause traitor dont get unless BOTH the other Scum are dead and according to the sample role pm;s all Scum roles have the same Wincon.

 

lol nope

 

 

Quote

Mafia Goon

 

Abilities: You may communicate with your partner [Player A] here [QT link]. Additionally you will share a factional Night kill. Each Night you and your partner can select a player to murder, I will take your submission in the provided QT.

 

Win Condition: You win when you have killed all of the Town players or nothing can prevent this.

Quote

Mafia Traitor

 

Abilities: You are aware that [Player A] and [Player 2] are Mafia aligned. If you are not recruited you will be given a 1x BPV and will take over the factional NK in the event the main faction is wiped out. If you are recruited you will lose your BPV and become a Mafia Goon.

 

Win Condition: You win when the Mafia has killed all of the Town players or nothing can prevent this.

[Sooh]

 

Ok, smaller posts are posting better

 

@Zander - everyone knows there are 2 mafia alive, Random was saying that the remaining original goon only know who their living partner is IF they'd recruited him. When you ask 'who your partner would be' it looks like you know the traitor was recruited

Watch him get it when you say it.

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, smaller posts are posting better

 

@Zander - everyone knows there are 2 mafia alive, Random was saying that the remaining original goon only know who their living partner is IF they'd recruited him. When you ask 'who your partner would be' it looks like you know the traitor was recruited

 

Yes im asking HIM,  who your (being me) partners would be,

 

i dont care about recruit or not there are 3 Scum, only 1 factional NK cause traitor dont get unless BOTH the other Scum are dead and according to the sample role pm;s all Scum roles have the same Wincon.

 

lol nope

 

 

 

Didn't actually respond to your content.

[Ironeyes]

Also Hi Marsh :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

For D2 and N2 I've operated under the assumption Zander is likely town. Posts like this keep pinging me though. He already knew Shad was scum when this was posted, so asking about his partner reads almost like he assumes / knows the traitor has been recruited, which I don't think we've establish through Shad's flip either way. Just a thought.

You have now placed a suspicion in my head that I can't get rid of. Zander why are you covered in tinfoil!?

 

 

 

 

 

Sock

Zander

 

 

Dice

 

My feelings on the remaining players: 

 

Town: 

Marsh

Random

 

Town lean: 

Darthe

Sock

Dice

 

Towny null: 

Cass

 

Scummy null: 

Pral

 

Scum lean: 

Zander

 

 

 

Gun to the head WTL Pral or Zander right now. But I hope we can get a clearer picture, especially with BFG here to move Cass out of the Null pile. 

 

 

I know youre a Villager but please tell me how you got from him just placing a suspicion there to me being your top Scum read!?!?!!??!

 

Dude Im Town,

 

ISO me and tell me what you think!!!!

 

The problem is, it's impossible for you not to be my top scum read when you're the only thing I have approaching a true scum read. I've been unsure on you all game but Random's point was enough to move you from scummy null to scum lean, but not really into my def scum catagory. 

[Ironeyes]

Also Hi Marsh :)

HIIIIIIII!!