Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[randomh3r0]

 

 

What Zander wrote:

 

 

 

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?

Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

 

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

 

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

 

 

 

ok lmk when youre caught up

 

start being villagery

really wanna hear your take on Sooh/Eld

*blink*

lolololololololol

 

 

@Shad - where are you getting your Sooh meta from?

I'm not sure I even understand this question but I've played/spectated quite a few games with her. I've struggled to read her more in some games than others but I've never been dead wrong.

I dunno Im thinking I may wanna test this....

 

 

 

I don't know if this is a nitpicky word choice thing, but do you think that Random's choice to defend his read on me is an overreaction? The phrase "jump into your defense" seems very strong for what he did which in my opinion was more an explanation of a read.

Is anyone else noticing the random/sock/nyce triangle of town reads on each other since I called out Eldrick's connections post?!??!?!!?

Likely town

Nyce

Random

random hasnt done anything scummy really yet. thats all. nyn had him and zander as light town

 

she also was leaning town on sock tho i wasnt so sold on sock but that ones a watch and see spot.

Dice: It's surprising that my posts this game haven't drawn the scrutiny from Dice I faced last time, which could be a bad sign for him, or could mean my play's been a bit more solid this game. I've got a slight town vibe from him for the moment

 

Sock: Sooh hasn't really posted much substance in my opinion either way. Eldrick is doing a good job seeming like he's looking for scum, but I felt a bit weird about how he was so quick to vote manbat after our interaction, and seemed to agree with everything I said. This could be paranoia - I'm not used to being agreed with frequently in mafia. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but that just equals a null read

They're all trending positively on one another to some degree, but I'm not sure what you're getting at with red unless you think scum!Eldrick kicked off the game by informing us that if scum!Nyce is a wolf then scum!Random is too.

 

The only thing that really sticks out here to me is Random calling Dice town while saying mostly negative things about him, which doesn't say anything about Dice's alignment but leaves me wondering about Random a bit.

 

@Random can you/did you explain this town vibe?

Ya this pretty much confirms to me theres a Wolf in Sock/Dice/Cass

 

The only person he really takes issue here is the guy who is like almost confirmed Town Cop.

 

He's not gonna remove like a quarter of the starting roster from being able to be pushed as ml's imo

What I actually see:

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

 

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

For D2 and N2 I've operated under the assumption Zander is likely town. Posts like this keep pinging me though. He already knew Shad was scum when this was posted, so asking about his partner reads almost like he assumes / knows the traitor has been recruited, which I don't think we've establish through Shad's flip either way. Just a thought.

 

Pral getting into the mix more and more is good for town, even if he's mafia, because there's now things to hang on him later should his tune change.

 

I like darthe's rah-rah-go-town attitude, but since I posted my results on Shad is when he began it. Perhaps bussing by completely avoiding discussion about Shad? (Bussing by omission)

 

I'm almost relieved I'm likely going to die. I keep reading eldrick and Sooh's posts, and despite them being very different hydra heads, I don't feel they're scummy at all. If they are, you all are better reading them than I, because I'm basing that on gut feeling more than anything, and perhaps that's past it's usefulness.

 

I hope BFG storms in out of the gate and gives a tell on that slot either way: if that slot is mafia you'll likely know pretty quickly.

 

If I were to survive until tomorrow, I'd put a lot of pressure on Dice to see what happens. I don't like his quick in and out technique this game. It could be IRL stuff, but we don't know enough.

 

Finally: keep cass talking. She and eldrick are doing some good ISO work, and aside from Zander they seem to be the ones everyone's relying on for that. Easier to spot an agenda when someone's laying out big cases than small question / thought posts.

 

Still got some time in N2, let's keep working it!

[randomh3r0]

Apologies in advance for any double or triple posts, internet connection comes in and out :(

 

Also I'm in Oman for the next week so time zones have shifted and I'll only have access in the hotel

Welcome! It looks like our time together will be short once again :(

[BFG]

 

BFG subs in for Amega effective immediately.

I approve. :D

 

If that slot is town, bfg will prove it quickly.

 

That's the plan :)

[BFG]

 

 

 

BFG subs in for Amega effective immediately.

Yessssss, I wish I could be alive to play more with BFG!

 

 

Evening all

 

 

BFG :wub:

 

CASS!!!!!!! <333

[BFG]

Sorry in advance for my amount of posts lol

 

 

 

 

 

[BFG]

 

Apologies in advance for any double or triple posts, internet connection comes in and out :(

 

Also I'm in Oman for the next week so time zones have shifted and I'll only have access in the hotel

Welcome! It looks like our time together will be short once again :(

 

:/

[Eldrick4221]

You're right random, zander does make it sound like he is assuming the traitor was recruited.

[Eldrick4221]

So glad I know shad is scum. Reading his ISO and still reads as maybe town.

[BFG]

Ok, I've read maybe 60% of the thread

 

Marsh

Random

 

Sock

Zander

 

Pral

 

Cass

Darthe

Dice

 

I can't necessarily explain any of them very well

 

Sooh is outside the mafia range I have for her, but that's difficult to judge fairly as they've been under pressure for most of the game and it's messing up my read. Eldrick seems to have no filter, but I'd have to look through old games to see if that means anything

 

Zander's paranoia looks good for him

 

I think if Pral/Shad were m/m that Pral would have voted with his read Day 1

 

I remember a lot of questions from Cass but no opinions? I don't remember much from Dice or Darthe outside their pushes on Zander/Sock

[BFG]

third fourth time's a charm

 

(pretends this isn't the second time I've tried posting this)

[Eldrick4221]

That's what I remember about Cass too

Her lack of reads is worrying too.

[randomh3r0]

@BFG is your dice / darthe / cass section a scum lean, or all null? The spacing with pral made me curious

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

What Zander wrote:

 

 

 

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?

Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

 

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

 

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

 

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

 

 

 

ok lmk when youre caught up

 

start being villagery

 

really wanna hear your take on Sooh/Eld

*blink*

 

lolololololololol

 

 

@Shad - where are you getting your Sooh meta from?

I'm not sure I even understand this question but I've played/spectated quite a few games with her. I've struggled to read her more in some games than others but I've never been dead wrong.

 

I dunno Im thinking I may wanna test this....

 

 

 

I don't know if this is a nitpicky word choice thing, but do you think that Random's choice to defend his read on me is an overreaction? The phrase "jump into your defense" seems very strong for what he did which in my opinion was more an explanation of a read.

Is anyone else noticing the random/sock/nyce triangle of town reads on each other since I called out Eldrick's connections post?!??!?!!?

 

Likely town

Nyce

Random

random hasnt done anything scummy really yet. thats all. nyn had him and zander as light town

 

she also was leaning town on sock tho i wasnt so sold on sock but that ones a watch and see spot.

Dice: It's surprising that my posts this game haven't drawn the scrutiny from Dice I faced last time, which could be a bad sign for him, or could mean my play's been a bit more solid this game. I've got a slight town vibe from him for the moment

 

Sock: Sooh hasn't really posted much substance in my opinion either way. Eldrick is doing a good job seeming like he's looking for scum, but I felt a bit weird about how he was so quick to vote manbat after our interaction, and seemed to agree with everything I said. This could be paranoia - I'm not used to being agreed with frequently in mafia. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but that just equals a null read

They're all trending positively on one another to some degree, but I'm not sure what you're getting at with red unless you think scum!Eldrick kicked off the game by informing us that if scum!Nyce is a wolf then scum!Random is too.

 

The only thing that really sticks out here to me is Random calling Dice town while saying mostly negative things about him, which doesn't say anything about Dice's alignment but leaves me wondering about Random a bit.

 

@Random can you/did you explain this town vibe?

 

Ya this pretty much confirms to me theres a Wolf in Sock/Dice/Cass

 

The only person he really takes issue here is the guy who is like almost confirmed Town Cop.

 

He's not gonna remove like a quarter of the starting roster from being able to be pushed as ml's imo

 

What I actually see:

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

 

 

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

 

For D2 and N2 I've operated under the assumption Zander is likely town. Posts like this keep pinging me though. He already knew Shad was scum when this was posted, so asking about his partner reads almost like he assumes / knows the traitor has been recruited, which I don't think we've establish through Shad's flip either way. Just a thought.

 

Pral getting into the mix more and more is good for town, even if he's mafia, because there's now things to hang on him later should his tune change.

 

I like darthe's rah-rah-go-town attitude, but since I posted my results on Shad is when he began it. Perhaps bussing by completely avoiding discussion about Shad? (Bussing by omission)

 

I'm almost relieved I'm likely going to die. I keep reading eldrick and Sooh's posts, and despite them being very different hydra heads, I don't feel they're scummy at all. If they are, you all are better reading them than I, because I'm basing that on gut feeling more than anything, and perhaps that's past it's usefulness.

 

I hope BFG storms in out of the gate and gives a tell on that slot either way: if that slot is mafia you'll likely know pretty quickly.

 

If I were to survive until tomorrow, I'd put a lot of pressure on Dice to see what happens. I don't like his quick in and out technique this game. It could be IRL stuff, but we don't know enough.

 

Finally: keep cass talking. She and eldrick are doing some good ISO work, and aside from Zander they seem to be the ones everyone's relying on for that. Easier to spot an agenda when someone's laying out big cases than small question / thought posts.

 

Still got some time in N2, let's keep working it!

 

It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

 

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

[BFG]

@BFG is your dice / darthe / cass section a scum lean, or all null? The spacing with pral made me curious

Pral would be a half lime green if I could remember the code, Dice/Darthe/Cass are null of themselves, but scummy via POE

[randomh3r0]

@BFG my point about Darthe is that D1 and N1 he was being normal Darthe - quick comments and observations, which I've seen him do as town before. Then I read Shad as scum, darthe pushes the speed lynch (which I was on board with, to be honest) and he kept trying to promote activity and yay town vibes, while never really mentioning Shad or trying to ISO for possible scum links to Shad or anything.

It could be nothing, or could be purposefully avoiding that at all costs. I'm just trying to put the info out there

[Zander?]

 

What Zander wrote:

 

*snip*

 

What I actually see:

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

I don't disagree. 

 

 

 

Zander, instead of nudging for every little thing you see, can you try to build a case and see if it makes sense?

 

Ive been, where are your cases???

[BFG]

@BFG my point about Darthe is that D1 and N1 he was being normal Darthe - quick comments and observations, which I've seen him do as town before. Then I read Shad as scum, darthe pushes the speed lynch (which I was on board with, to be honest) and he kept trying to promote activity and yay town vibes, while never really mentioning Shad or trying to ISO for possible scum links to Shad or anything.

It could be nothing, or could be purposefully avoiding that at all costs. I'm just trying to put the info out there

Ok thanks :)

[Zander?]

 

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

 

You have basically said scum is in sock/cass/dice and has also said I may have bused Shad. Who is remaining?

 

You do realise that except Darthe and Amega and the other known town, you are calling everyone a scum suspect, right? And, I am casing you and showing where I am thinking you are scum. 

 

If you ask me, neither of those 3 are likely to be scum. My thoughts say Zander > Amega > Darthe as the likely scum remaining. I confess though, I haven't read Darthe in detail - this is just from POE based on my town reads

 

 

Shad was placing those people with EASY Town reads  without much reasoning.

 

If youre were reading my posts I stated this and i still feel its true,

 

I dont think Scum!Shad gives 3 random easy solid enough Town reads away and loses the chance to push their ML's later.

 

That 1/4 of the entire starting field.

 

So yes I think theres very likely 1 Scum in there.

 

And I still dont think its Dice.

[Zander?]

 

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

 

You have basically said scum is in sock/cass/dice and has also said I may have bused Shad. Who is remaining?

 

You do realise that except Darthe and Amega and the other known town, you are calling everyone a scum suspect, right? And, I am casing you and showing where I am thinking you are scum. 

 

If you ask me, neither of those 3 are likely to be scum. My thoughts say Zander > Amega > Darthe as the likely scum remaining. I confess though, I haven't read Darthe in detail - this is just from POE based on my town reads

 

 

Again this feels like a slip but maybe im nitpicking some.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also - you would never unvote here unless you knew this case was bull.

Don't you dare tell me what I would or wouldn't do.

 

THAT is bull

No it isnt. This game is all about trying to figure out what people would or wouldnt do. Dont act like I am out of line. I'm objectively not.

Well just FYI I'm not backtracking anything here. I believe in my case. Don't try to tell me what I think, because you don't know.

So no response to when I laid out how the code you have an issue with comes from your post?

 

It can't.

 

This forum doesn't use html in posts.

 

 

 

I dont think Scum!Sooh would try to push something like that

 

Why not?

 

 

Sooh, why didn't you try quoting it yourself?

 

 

 

 

 

 

From possibly the QT we know your in with your Hydra partner.

Nice try. It doesn't translate to here. Look at the post Zander quoted from BFG.

 

 

 

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="Sooh" data-cid="3732601" data-time="1480543471">Sooh, on 30 Nov 2016 - 5:04 PM, said:<p>Ok g'night  Be lovely to each other

 

 

 

Ok g'night 

 

Be lovely to each other <3

 

test

 

 

 

 

^^^That is what you get if you quote Sooh's post and then hit more reply options to view before posting.

 

That blockquote stuff is in your post.

What browser and equipment are you using?

 

 

 

 

Like seriously, if nobody can recreate this, and you can't explain it so that it happens again, I'm not buying your explanation for how it happened.

I just posted it twice.

 

 

 

 

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="Sooh" data-cid="3732601" data-time="1480543471">Sooh, on 30 Nov 2016 - 5:04 PM, said:<p>Ok g'night  Be lovely to each other

Another problem is if this is from my post, where are the rest of the tags? if this was in my post without closing the tags, all that jibberjabber would be in the original post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like seriously, if nobody can recreate this, and you can't explain it so that it happens again, I'm not buying your explanation for how it happened.

I just posted it twice.

Yeah, that's not the same as somebody else recreating it.

Yea obv - But I cant make someone else do that.

 

Look, if somebody proves to me that it's possible, I'll drop it immediately. I just don't think it's possible without a QT being involved, and I didn't copy and paste a goodnight message from my QT into the thread.

 

 

 

 

& Sometimes people dont know what they are talking about and angleshoot anyway.

I don't know why my push bothers you so much. clearly nobody else believes me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't have to POST it to TRY it.

[Sooh]

Sooh also wanted to delay the lynch, which irks me. I would have sussed her for it if I didn't already know she was town.

 

Which means doing it is null but still bugs me...

What the HELL are you talking about?

 

DELAY, not DERAIL.

[randomh3r0]

 

Sooh also wanted to delay the lynch, which irks me. I would have sussed her for it if I didn't already know she was town.

 

Which means doing it is null but still bugs me...

What the HELL are you talking about?

 

DELAY, not DERAIL.

It's precisely these kinds of posts, that could be construed as mistakes, that make me believe Sock is town. I just don't see this happening if you're trying to be a careful scum player

[BFG]

 

 

 

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

 

You have basically said scum is in sock/cass/dice and has also said I may have bused Shad. Who is remaining?

 

You do realise that except Darthe and Amega and the other known town, you are calling everyone a scum suspect, right? And, I am casing you and showing where I am thinking you are scum. 

 

If you ask me, neither of those 3 are likely to be scum. My thoughts say Zander > Amega > Darthe as the likely scum remaining. I confess though, I haven't read Darthe in detail - this is just from POE based on my town reads

 

 

 

Shad was placing those people with EASY Town reads  without much reasoning.

 

If youre were reading my posts I stated this and i still feel its true,

 

I dont think Scum!Shad gives 3 random easy solid enough Town reads away and loses the chance to push their ML's later.

 

That 1/4 of the entire starting field.

 

So yes I think theres very likely 1 Scum in there.

 

And I still dont think its Dice.

 

Is your Dice read Dice or Nyn related?

[Sooh]

BFG subs in for Amega effective immediately.

*prays that BFG will be BFOBVIOUS immediately*

 

<3 Welcome hon

[BFG]

 

 

Sooh also wanted to delay the lynch, which irks me. I would have sussed her for it if I didn't already know she was town.

 

Which means doing it is null but still bugs me...

What the HELL are you talking about?

 

DELAY, not DERAIL.

 

It's precisely these kinds of posts, that could be construed as mistakes, that make me believe Sock is town. I just don't see this happening if you're trying to be a careful scum player

 

Pretty much what I mean by no filter as regards Eldrick