[Standard] Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Mafia Wins D4

[Lizabeth]

okay, i have to go do chores for real now....

[Pralaya]

And I don't see how joining the Darthe wagon was playing it high risk, as I already pointed out. She came up with an excuse to see Darthe as scum and other people were already shifting towards Darthe I believe. I'll look back at the vote counts again. .

Who said anything about voting Darthe as a high risk?

[Pralaya]

Okay, I just looked back at what you said about that. Basically you said that she usually plays the game safe as a wolf.

 

So is it playing the game safe to repeatedly try to shade her scumpartner on D1? And continuing to do it on D2?

 

That's distancing. Can be done while playing safe - because you are targetting your scum partner ad has no negative repercussions when the alignment is revealed. So, yes. .

[Nynaeve]

 

I can confirm that he's not making sense to me, but that's nothing new. At the same time, I feel like Pral might be leaning on his arguments. That's what on my mind right now. I also don't like that Pral was around and didn't claim.

Scum doesn't have to think a lot to claim VT, lol. What else would a scum claim at this point? See my statement earlier about talking pointless things?

 

 

How about you stop talking down to me and dismissing me?  It's pretty obnoxious. 

 

Secondly if it's so easy to claim, why not just do it? Scum fake claim literally all the time, so yes I have a problem with someone who lingers in claiming until everyone else does when he could have done so a lot earlier. It's a valid observation and I don't give a **** if you agree with me or not.

[Nynaeve]

Nyn, when you come back tell me this - are Pral and Csarmi equally likely to be genuinely reading the thread illogically? Or would you expect one to be paying more attention to the details than the other?

 

I'd expect Pral to make more sense than Salami. At least to me.

[Nynaeve]

fyi I have some errands in the morning. But I should be back well before DL.

[Nynaeve]

Liz, you're not gonna break my heart, right?  :/

[Lizabeth]

 

And I don't see how joining the Darthe wagon was playing it high risk, as I already pointed out. She came up with an excuse to see Darthe as scum and other people were already shifting towards Darthe I believe. I'll look back at the vote counts again. .

Who said anything about voting Darthe as a high risk?

 

You used it as an excuse for her being town - claiming that she plays safe as wolf and implying that her progression on darthe was high risk.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/99552-standard-final-fantasy-vii-mafia-game-thread/?p=3722176

 

Csarmi also argued today that her progression on Darthe was high risk.

[Lizabeth]

 

Okay, I just looked back at what you said about that. Basically you said that she usually plays the game safe as a wolf.

 

So is it playing the game safe to repeatedly try to shade her scumpartner on D1? And continuing to do it on D2?

 

That's distancing. Can be done while playing safe - because you are targetting your scum partner ad has no negative repercussions when the alignment is revealed. So, yes. .

 

How is that playing safe? That's ridiculous. Especially in a game where very few people know my meta and more than a few were ready to read my play as scummy.

 

In a two=scum game the best strategy is to keep your partner alive as long as possible. Soft pushes, suspicion sure. But the repeated shading (her) and my actually following through on killing her - that's not safe play in a game where you only have one partner and you have no idea what powers town has in play.

[Lizabeth]

 

Nyn, when you come back tell me this - are Pral and Csarmi equally likely to be genuinely reading the thread illogically? Or would you expect one to be paying more attention to the details than the other?

 

I'd expect Pral to make more sense than Salami. At least to me.

 

That's what I thought.

 

Basically in reading through games for both of them, I have to give them both credit on tone. And Csarmi's playstyle has changed hugely this game from the games that I read through earlier.

 

But what stands out for me when arguing with Csarmi both today and watching him argue on previous days (like the Sooh issue) is that he actually seems to believe what he's saying.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

[Nynaeve]

I agree

[Nynaeve]

[v]Pral[/v]

[Nynaeve]

He feels very dismissive. Plus I pointed out that Sooh's ammo in the Pirates game was to zoom in on a townie and go hard. I don't see her changing her scum play so drastically to the point where she just charges at her own scummate. I also think that the whole idea that you and Sooh would act that way cause of your QT exchanges with Cory is absurd. That would be solvable by a NK, if it was a concern. 

[Nynaeve]

Salami, do me a favor and ISO Pral. And objectively tell me why you think he's likely town. Don't tell me what BFG thought or what Cory thought. I don't care. Both are great players but can still be wrong. I want you to point out things that you feel he wouldn't/couldn't do as scum. Don't **** this up.

[Nynaeve]

[unvote]  ugh i'm driving myself crazy  >.<

[Nynaeve]

I'm gonna try to reread some before bed. 

[Clovdyx]

Vote Count!

 

• Lizabeth - 1 - Csarmi
  
• Prallia - 1 - Lizabeth
  

Day Four ends at 12:30 Eastern on Monday, 11/7.

[csarmi]

@Nyn I will try and read stuff at work. Not sure how busy I will be though. Night.

[Zander?]

Vote Count!

 

• Lizabeth - 1 - Csarmi
  
• Prallia - 1 - Lizabeth
  

Day Four ends at 12:30 Eastern on Monday, 11/7.

[Zander?]

[v] Zander [/v]

[Zander?]

[v] Zander [/v]

 

Zander was lynched.....he was......

 

 

???

 

[Clovdyx]

Shut up, Zander.

[Nynaeve]

[v] Zander [/v]

 

This is a vote I can definitely get behind 

[Zander?]

Shut up, Zander.

 

Im gonna be modkilled...

 

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[Pralaya]

 

 

How is that playing safe? That's ridiculous. Especially in a game where very few people know my meta and more than a few were ready to read my play as scummy.

 

In a two=scum game the best strategy is to keep your partner alive as long as possible. Soft pushes, suspicion sure. But the repeated shading (her) and my actually following through on killing her - that's not safe play in a game where you only have one partner and you have no idea what powers town has in play.

 

Ugh, I am talking about sooh's meta. Not yours.

 

Distancing pretty much sets up each other as townie when the other is lynched. Especially in a game where you need only 3 mislynches. Like Pirates of the Caribbean. What's I pretty much hard bused scummate to victory - especially when there is enough suspicion on the scummate.