[Standard] Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Mafia Wins D4

[Cory Caboose]

Basically if I had to pick a villager out of Liz/kat/csarmi/sooh it'd be Liz aorn but that's a question I will keep asking myself forever

Riding or dying with my blues ATP

[Cory Caboose]

i'm going to sleep

 

GL

[csarmi]

meh

 

csarmi

 

he's not as bad a wolf as he purports - read through warcraft and the spaceballs game - he can stay active and keep up with the thread and make live reads. he's functional.

 

what's missing from this game so far with him is the drive and the clenching jaws that define his villager game.

 

he's acting like he cares, but he doesn't.

You're not wrong about me not caring. But I'm not acting as if I did. I just. I dunno. I signed up cause I thought maybe it would be fun again.

But what this is to me right now is like a job that was forced on me in the middle of a long weekend.

It's just something I am to do. Despite the fact that I just don't have any drive, care or passion I still got myself to do this in spurts. But i am not immersed in the game and I don't think I will be.

 

Now is that the wrong mindset? Sure. Is that disrespectful to the mod and the other players? Sure. Did I want to hide it a little so that I don't hurt anyone's feelings? Sure I did. Is that something I wouldn't have done a few years ago? Yes.

 

Sorry.

 

Still a villager, still trying to win. I am not someone that won't do his job.

[csarmi]

I may be afraid to care TBH. Playing mafia brings back unhappy, depressed memories. I think I'm mostly out of my depression, but I don't seem to be bold enough to be wading into deep waters.

 

So if you see a lack of care in my game, damn right there is a lack of care there. Most of the time anyway.

 

I guess you can clear me on my first day, I don't believe I could reproduce that as a wolf or that I'd even care to. Yes, that word again.

[csarmi]

BFG

Nyn

Pral

 

Cory

Sooh

 

As for Katiora and Liz. I don't know. I'm not sure It even have them separated in my head. They're just the players I don't know. I guess I'd need another re-read for that. Which might be happening, but unlikely. I'd guess Liz i a wolf and Kat a villager but these really are just guesses.

 

[Nynaeve]

@Nyn, are you still awake?

 

I wasn't. I just sort of shut down and made a whirring noise lol   On the up side, I feel at least semi human now.

 

Catching up.

[BFG]

Cory <3

[Nynaeve]

I'm wondering about your current thoughts on Sooh, Kat, Pral, and Csarmi?

Same thing to @Nyn when she gets here.

 

I touched on Pral here when I responded to you yesterday. Out of the four he's the slot that bothers me less. His read on Cory and how adamant he is about it is a good look. It doesn't feel like it's a push with an agenda. With that said I would like him to post more and take more stances on the rest of the players. I'm drawing a blank on who his other suspects are. I think he had a couple of town reads on D1. That's about all I recall.

 

I touched on Sooh and Salami here. With Salami, I still feel like he's dragging his feet, overall missing the fire and he seems unwilling to commit to reads. Kinda floating. Thing is, it doesn't even feel like being low on WIM, it just comes across like he doesn't give a ****. And in my experience he cares when he's town. Sooh has been underwhelming. And using a tidbit her hubhub gave me to read her, she's not looking great (no, I'm not gonna share :P). I also feel like her responses in her exchange with Cory leave a lot to be desired. I just came out of a hydra game with her and I was the angry head that bit people's heads off and she was the sensible, diplomatic and well spoken head. So her demeanor when responding last night is iffy.

 

As far as Kat, sure, she takes a while to warm up. So I've accepted that I won't get much from her on D1 as of rule and that's fine. But I feel like she hasn't progressed much from it, which is worrying. I find it odd that she's so confident about Cory, because she's paranoid by nature and even when she townreads someone, she tends to openly debate the read throughout the game. But what bothers me even more is the discrepancies in doing so. Her being so sure of Cory and me but going back and forth about BFG is odd. Also her reasoning irt BFG doesn't add up to me. She has a problem with BFG having a good impression of her for not apparent reason D1, but at the same time the reason she provides for town reading me is gut. eh. 

[Nynaeve]

Hi BFG :)

[Nynaeve]

If I made a big MISS this game it was Nyn

 

Looking through Kat now but the fact that I'm not 100% on Nyn has gnawed on my brain and I'm going to stop ignoring it for the sake of being thorough

 

Don't make me smack you

[BFG]

 

Would guess the only shot at a wolf you have in there is Kat

One of the things that Cory does as scum is to put people/town down and force them to accept that they are making a mistake. It usually deters people because they don't want to end up wrong.

 

This are some of the posts from the Alt game that I was talking about (He was playing as Sili). Look how close they are to this game. Do go through that game to see scum Cory. And no, he wasn't exactly trolling till late in the game.

 

<snip>

 

Pral, have you read Spirited Away?

 

Pral you are incorrect on your assumptions of cory. Regardless of the one game you played with that he was scum and did this, I have played 2 games with him where he did this and both times he was town. If anything I think I see cory's reactions in this game as town.

 

Honestly I don't see Cory putting in the kind of effort he did D1 as scum. Trying to solve. Switching votes. trying to talk things out. I just don't see him being scum. I will also never vote for Nyn this game. never. If she's wolf then good game. (sorry nyn i know I said pre-game i'd lynch you but you're never a wolf this game)

 

 

This leaves a short list.

 

3. Lizabeth - i don't know. The other game I have played with her I thought she was slightly scummy the whole game and she was town.

4. Csarmi - don't know what to expect. Never played with before. All of ya'll seem to like his EoD but to me it's like he came in just in time to stir the pot and create confusion.

5. Prallia (Pralaya/Hallia) - eh. they haven't posted enough for anything so i'm not sure where to put them. Pral always thinks i'm scummy I usually think he's scummy because normally as inactive as I am I have many more posts than him. I hate his case on Cory. I think it's crazy and very well could be scum trying to push someone he knows could be a danger to him and Hallia when she starts posting. Which brings me to Hallia. I would have thought that she would have posted SOME at night. But she hasn't. The last time Pral had a partner that pretty much had radio silence (granted with a good excuse) he ran that game. I would remember. I was the partner. And he's one heck of a wolf. I'd like to hear more from him with better reasoning than ONE game maybe a year ago.

6. BFG - I'm not sure what to think of BFG. I almost feel like she knows too much. Her read on me early game... I don't know where she got it from but I know it's right.

7. Sooh - I'm fixin to do an ISO of. She's been fairly active in the game. But I think that Cory has had some valid points on her.

 

So right now if i had to choose 3 i'd probably go Csarmi, Prallia, Sooh, in no particular order. But i'm about to ISO all three of those and see what I come up with. shouldn't take me long with the first two anyway.

Can you talk about Sooh more? What do you mean by relatively active? Is this more likely from town or mafia Sooh? What points do you like from Cory?

[Nynaeve]

I have a bucket full of halloween candy...someone tell me not to eat it

 

I think you should eat it

 

#enabler 

[BFG]

Hi Nyn :)

[Nynaeve]

I present the NYN DIAMOND

 

 

Nyn clearly cares about this game despite her tonal discomfort and reluctance to involve herself heavily

 

What the hell?  LOL

[csarmi]

No Nyn, I'm a villager and I really just don't care. Seems like that's perfectly possible.

 

I dare you to mislynch me out of my misery. 

[csarmi]

Sorry all for signing up though. Especially BFG.

[Nynaeve]

thanks for all the support guys 

 

<3

[BFG]

I ISOd Sooh last night and think I'm in the same thought process as Nyn, her game is safe while in (eg) Demons Cove she was more proactive. I have a slight issue with that in that this is a bit of an odd game in terms of cohesiveness, it's still not in her game. Early game she sorta susses Alanna, but backtracks when pressed, except she doesn't, same with Liz. Early game I thought it was an attempt to get stuff moving, but it never goes anywhere

[csarmi]

BTW I think Cory might just be a villager... With a tint of wolf.

[BFG]

Kat, who do you want to vote?

[csarmi]

@BFG how sure you are about Cory being a villager?

[BFG]

Sorry all for signing up though. Especially BFG.

Don't be silly :)

 

 

Can you talk more about Kat/Liz?

 

What's changed your mind on Sooh?

[Nynaeve]

I am not sure what to make of Salami emo...

[BFG]

@BFG how sure you are about Cory being a villager?

Quite confident, and unlike Day 1 have actual reasons to think that. Sometimes I have games where I can't stop tinfoiling and sadly this is one of them, but his end of day and stuff last night is good, in particular the end of day.

[csarmi]

 

Sorry all for signing up though. Especially BFG.

Don't be silly :)

 

 

Can you talk more about Kat/Liz?

 

What's changed your mind on Sooh?

 

 

Kat/Liz - I wish I could but I really just don't have them. From Liz what comes to mind is the way she kept nagging Darthe about Darthe's obvious joke quetsion to you (are you always serious so soon). About Kat what I can recall is her approach of you (warning people that you could fool them).

 

As for Sooh, I haven't changed my mind. I'm just completely torn there. On the one hand I don't like her actions and people (mostly Cory) keep saying she was a wolf (these do get to me actually), on the other hand I really could just take her actions for a confused villager and there's that TWTBAW. So I just don't know anymore.