[Basic] Pirates of the Caribbean (Curse of the Black Pearl) Game Thread - D2

[dicetosser1]

here   only a coupole pages behind

[Darthe]

Calender, lol. Not book

[dicetosser1]

 

 

I was talking about how you went after Besie for saying she now likes to play as town much more than she used to, and how that is OMGSOSCUMMY. 

 

I guess the other thing was about her misremembering, but that's a separate discussion.

 

 

No you straight up said I was ignoring things.  Other then Believers read list which I commented taking with a grain of salt youve yet to show 1 EXAMPLE of me ignoring things.

 

Funny thing is tho:

 

I listened and reevaluated Besie when she explained out the Meta thing.  Something Id like to add is that you were sussing her early as well but only have an issue with me doing it?

 

Also I listened to and reevaluated Believer after his play different roles differently.

 

So what am I ignoring Sooh?

 

At least I unlike others have been working on progessing and reevaluating my reads.

 

This is all stuff that Scum!Zander normally does Sooh??

 

Seriously if youre Town give your head a shake please and reread me.

 

You are literally not listening, are you. 

 

I'm saying that when people EXPLAIN THINGS to you, you have to hear it SEVERAL TIMES before you STOP IGNORING it and RETHINK your position.

 

I am reading you, and I see town blips here and there, but no more than I know that scum!Zander is capable of. I have been blindsided SO MANY TIMES lately, and I will not stand by and watch you do the same to this village!

 

 

 

Sooh are you saying the red is unusual for Zander?

[Zander?]

 

 

"Fearmongering" to point out that you're trying to invalidate points against.you on technicalities?

 

Youve got no weapons, so thats all you seem to be able and work with, but its easy to pick. Look at your post refuting me where you go out of your way to correct me on how many games youve been on and the nsture of meta.

 

You dont have a counterpoint, so instead you attempt to reflect and dissiminate. Ive got you dead to rights here Z.

How confident do you feel about the Bold Derf?

 

Also lol at avoiding actually addressing my concerns with rhetoric tho.

 

Youre either just Scum or petty either way lolyou.

Come @ me if you're a fan of losing. I revel in getting dirty and this time ive got an open book.

 

 

Im not the one who runs as we both know.

 

ISO me and lay your case out on me ProStar.

 

Use quotes to show your work

[Darthe]

Hey zander, you should try quoting every post ive made and finding something wrong with it.

 

For someone who calls me petty, thatd show me wouldnt it?

[Tiinker]

Lol take a break guys.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

"Fearmongering" to point out that you're trying to invalidate points against.you on technicalities?

 

Youve got no weapons, so thats all you seem to be able and work with, but its easy to pick. Look at your post refuting me where you go out of your way to correct me on how many games youve been on and the nsture of meta.

 

You dont have a counterpoint, so instead you attempt to reflect and dissiminate. Ive got you dead to rights here Z.

How confident do you feel about the Bold Derf?

 

Also lol at avoiding actually addressing my concerns with rhetoric tho.

 

Youre either just Scum or petty either way lolyou.

Come @ me if you're a fan of losing. I revel in getting dirty and this time ive got an open book.

Im not the one who runs as we both know.

 

ISO me and lay your case out on me ProStar.

 

Use quotes to show your work

Im not one who rereads and quotes, but my case is already made and abundantly clear. Show up or shut up.

[Guest]

To mid p59

 

 

 

 

Zander: your first iso post on calder does highlight that calder shares barely any thoughts on you before voting you. I do not really feel like going back and checking up but I’m sure calder will say if it was nitpicking.

 

Like I read the thread, dude I don't need you to quote half the thing again. It's pretty obvious calder has a tunnel on you, and it's pretty clear why, but hpw is pointing out tht youre being tunnelled without addressing the critiques of your earlier play of any benefit?

You cant dismiss earlier lack of effort, nonfluidity, or heavily reactive play as "thats just me" and expect to get a pass here. Your views also dont line up with mine, so ive not got reason to readjust even though you're informing my opinion.

Its just overall at odds with what I expect of town aligned people.

 

first line: good point there – but I think he did in a minimum of one of those crazy quoted catchup posts

second line: truths

third line: half good half not. I don’t think the second line is alignment indicative, and if the first line isn’t true then the third isn’t completely valid either – but this is imo. I know you stated that this post is your opinion.

 

 

Also the only logically explanation for any difference in my play for Calder is that Im Scum thats it no other possibility even considered..

This for instance. Not only must it be nice living in that gpasx house, but what possibility is he supposed to consider? Everyone's job, including.even the wolves, is to weigh players based on alignment. Just ugh

 

 

this is true but seems to be skewing his words slightly. I read z’s words as meaning that calder’s only reason is that he is wolf. meaning, not meta or gameplay reasons. Which, in itself, is also wrong. 

 

 

It's Friday, Friday
Gotta lynch Zander on Friday
Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend
Friday, Friday
Gotta lynch Zander on Friday
Everybody's lookin forward to a scum free weekend

 

 

 

 

Btw are y'all gonna actually push your suspects? Do you have suspects?

Scum are happy to sit back today. Wait for us to waffle onto a doable, but inevitably incorrect lynch.

And by "us" I meant the town players. By "scum" I meant my cohesive crime syndicate. Key word being "my." I am its leader. A great one, on the local scene anyway. But, I have national, no...strike that; international ambitions.

The kind of ambitions that draws attention. Lots of eyes on me. I am looking to impress.

 

 

The above post with the song fall in line with his other posts like :Throw Zander" off the plank type posts.

 

When you look at all them and then read the bold its like hes setting it up that if i get mislynced and when I flip Town he can look back and try to say oh well Scum!Calder would never approach I mislynch like that because it would put me in the limelight and draw too much attention to me type stuff.

 

 

 

not sure I understand your reasoning here. could you somehow rephrase it?

 

 

in the following posts zander seems very frustrated. making less sense to me as time goes by. not alignment indicative to me but just meh

 

I do see what he means by “cheerleading type posts”  from calder. Z, is that alignment indicative to you? I’m guessing yes since you’re voting him

 

*snip*

 

Wow. So many questions.

1. Why would you all post so much on Friday night.

2. Not so much a question as hahhahaha for letting Zander off the hook. Not only is his play so obv off, that list where he bullshitted together and only has me as schm, and his scum flip gets us Besie too.

Just wow.

 

Ok so reference the first post.

 

Ive already quoted him making the associtive read that if Im SCum Besie is.

 

He keeps saying this yet we want to lunch Nolder tomorrow after my "guaranteed Scum flip" as he puts it, instead of the person he claims is for sure Scum with me?!?!?!!?!?

 

wtf people??!!?!?!?

 

 

this is true, but not true. Calder’s “I’ll vote who d2” may not have been consistent, but then, the third person on his scum hasn’t been consistent. I feel like you may be altering his thoughts a bit, since his second scum has Solidly Continuously been Nolder. It’s his third one that’s changed a lot and it’s the third one you’re referring to in your post.

 

Also whats BS about my reads lists?

 

Its D1 and I only have a real Scum lead?

 

Is this uncommon for Town!Zander D1?

 

What do you think of the actual reads themselves?

 

Why do you think MOnstr liked it?

 

Are me and Monstr w/w iyo?

 

lol at this. I understand the frustration, but just lol

 

 

 

That's a good list z

Are u drunk? It takes him until now to produce any non defensive game content and its a reads list with 1 scum read?!?!?!

Even worse its the person going after him. Once again my low expectations for mafia players are not even met.

 

 

Is your only issued with my reads list is that i only have one Scum read I feel comfortable D1?

 

And as far as the time.  Ive covered this numerous times.  And other players like Pral, Dice and Besie have ALL commented on my investment to my other game which started like over a week before this one.

 

You can ALL verify for yourself that I was in the game thread all DL day and posting there.

 

I KNEW I had time here.  And when it was over Ive been in here busting my balls.

 

Like if youve played with me before or ask people who have, I start getting a decent feel for poss teams and connections after I see a flip.

 

What do you mean by the bold???

 

 

 

Thank god for Darthe and Sooh. My mind is screaming that the scum team has to be:

Zander
Nolder
Besie

Talk to me about Besie, since that's where we have the most conflicting view atm.

My issue with Besie is that while I and others were discussing Zander and Nolder at times, she didnt have a huge issue with the cases on them. Yet she kept ISOing others oddly and it gave me the vibe of trying to find a 3rd lynch candidate that wasnt on her team.

It is why I commented that I believe she is the most active scum member of the team.

She is also the reason a Zander lynch is preferable to Nolder, since Besie's play puts her as most likely to be Zander's scum partner. A nolder lynch doesnt do the same.

 

 

Again I dont understand because youre stating in the thread that Besie is a likely Scummate of mine and you had Sooh there most of the game as well but you wanna lynch me today then Nolder tomorrow.

 

Does not add up imo.

 

 

ah. mmm. I see your point now. mmm.

 

Z that last line looks like a guilt trip

 

definitely does

he and sooh has some history though – they read each other wrong all the time. he could use that to his advantage as either alignment

 

Like seriously ASK ME questions!!!!!!

 

IM HERE

 

IMO Scum are pushing me and Town is for the most straight up being lazy.

 

Thoughts on my reads???

 

Thoughts on my case on Calder?!!?!?!

 

Has anyone ISO;d me cause I havent seen it

 

What do people think of me being the D1 train all day with no others????

 

This is sad and ridiculous

 

irt bolded: What do you think the chances are for town being on your train? Surely there must be some, or do you think all the scum are on you?

 

 

[Zander?]

Hey zander, you should try quoting every post ive made and finding something wrong with it.

 

For someone who calls me petty, thatd show me wouldnt it?

 

Im not calling you certain SCum tho yet am I

 

But youve been calling me that,

 

Show everyone your work.

 

Unless ofc you cant???

 

 

 

 

 

"Fearmongering" to point out that you're trying to invalidate points against.you on technicalities?

 

Youve got no weapons, so thats all you seem to be able and work with, but its easy to pick. Look at your post refuting me where you go out of your way to correct me on how many games youve been on and the nsture of meta.

 

You dont have a counterpoint, so instead you attempt to reflect and dissiminate. Ive got you dead to rights here Z.

How confident do you feel about the Bold Derf?

 

Also lol at avoiding actually addressing my concerns with rhetoric tho.

 

Youre either just Scum or petty either way lolyou.

Come @ me if you're a fan of losing. I revel in getting dirty and this time ive got an open book.

Im not the one who runs as we both know.

 

ISO me and lay your case out on me ProStar.

 

Use quotes to show your work

Im not one who rereads and quotes, but my case is already made and abundantly clear. Show up or shut up.

 

 

Ive refuted everything you said already. 

 

Im here and have been.

[Guest]

 

 

Then iso me. I do my work, you can do yours, im not dealing with catering to you.

pffft. fair enough

Glad we got that squared away. Do you have a read on nego or manbat?

 

 

i currently believe nego is town and manbat is possibly town

[Darthe]

 

Im not the one who runs as we both know.

 

 

If we wanna talk meta, there was a game that I spent a long.time arguing against z then had to go for rl stuff and I got lynched. Anytime z is a wolf and I read him up he throws this at me in spite.

 

This is all y'all need, pretty sure he has done it a few times.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Then iso me. I do my work, you can do yours, im not dealing with catering to you.

pffft. fair enough

Glad we got that squared away. Do you have a read on nego or manbat?

i currently believe nego is town and manbat is possibly town

Dice and nol?

 

Nol has really disappeared btw, he is def a top candidate for me

[Guest]

oh it's already 18 minutes to dl. going to focus more on ongoing thread than catchup until dl

[Zander?]

 

Im not the one who runs as we both know.

 

If we wanna talk meta, there was a game that I spent a long.time arguing against z then had to go for rl stuff and I got lynched. Anytime z is a wolf and I read him up he throws this at me in spite.

 

This is all y'all need, pretty sure he has done it a few times.

 

 

 

What game or games have you played with Scum!Zander Darthe?

[dicetosser1]

time check  is DL in like 15?

[Darthe]

He also knows I havent done more than an mq case or two probably in the last two years.

 

It's all about trying to get under my skin, and stretch the thread out so yall wear out, rather than succinct points or protown play.

[dicetosser1]

ty besie lol

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right so im still a few pages behind.

 

Right now i can literally hear Zander yelling at the screen in frustration in my head.  Im not lynching him today

[Zander?]

He also knows I havent done more than an mq case or two probably in the last two years.

 

It's all about trying to get under my skin, and stretch the thread out so yall wear out, rather than succinct points or protown play.

 

Read darthe gd iso and see how many pokes and jabs he throws at me.

 

GFY

[Darthe]

 

 

Im not the one who runs as we both know.

 

If we wanna talk meta, there was a game that I spent a long.time arguing against z then had to go for rl stuff and I got lynched. Anytime z is a wolf and I read him up he throws this at me in spite.

 

This is all y'all need, pretty sure he has done it a few times.

 

What game or games have you played with Scum!Zander Darthe?

Couldnt name a one! Very well known about me as well.

 

As you can all see, zander diesnt want you to think he is town, he just wants you to doubt me because he just needs to live one night.

 

Basic.

[Darthe]

 

He also knows I havent done more than an mq case or two probably in the last two years.

 

It's all about trying to get under my skin, and stretch the thread out so yall wear out, rather than succinct points or protown play.

Read darthe gd iso and see how many pokes and jabs he throws at me.

 

GFY

"Pokes and jabs" you mean refuting your rampant bs and shutting you down? Go die scum.

[Darthe]

ty besie lol

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right so im still a few pages behind.

 

Right now i can literally hear Zander yelling at the screen in frustration in my head. Im not lynching him today

Do yiu have a candidate and any reason that they better fit? I doubt it.

[Guest]

 

 

 

 

Then iso me. I do my work, you can do yours, im not dealing with catering to you.

pffft. fair enough

Glad we got that squared away. Do you have a read on nego or manbat?

i currently believe nego is town and manbat is possibly town

Dice and nol?

 

Nol has really disappeared btw, he is def a top candidate for me

 

 

Nolder still the same - i'd like to see more from him. Then again, i'd like to see more from half the peeps.

 

Dice i'm wavering on. had him as possibly town most of the time but he's focus on one person (Tiink) is rather alarming. i think he's focused on someone else inbetween? I really have to look at him again to say where i currently put him.

 

Your thoughts on all 4 the above?

[monstrman]

Oh jeez deadline in 12 minutes I have to make a decision now

 

Let me get to a computer

[dicetosser1]

 

ty besie lol

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right so im still a few pages behind.

 

Right now i can literally hear Zander yelling at the screen in frustration in my head. Im not lynching him today

Do yiu have a candidate and any reason that they better fit? I doubt it.

 

 

i still think we should lynch believer or Tink

 

 

@besie  notice that i mostly only respond about tink   i havent really tunneled on himat all

 

 

 

i could also go nol tho

[Guest]

 

He also knows I havent done more than an mq case or two probably in the last two years.

 

It's all about trying to get under my skin, and stretch the thread out so yall wear out, rather than succinct points or protown play.

 

Read darthe gd iso and see how many pokes and jabs he throws at me.

 

GFY

 

 

What's gd?

What's GFY?

 

And yes, expected from him atm. I've said that in the past few pages.