Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

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D1 Votecount

 

 

 

Shad (2): Dice, Nolder

 

Ironeyes (1): Snow

 

Snow (4): Ironeyes, Hallia, Believer, Tiinker

 

Hellian (2): Zass, Shad

 

Zass (1): Hellian

 

Not Voting (4): Darthe, Katiora, Pralaya, Wildfire Sedai

 

 

 

You have about 15.5 hours to choose between the stedding and Tel'Aran'Rhiod

[Nolder]

[unvote]

 

[v]Hellion[/v]

 

I've learned over the years the most important thing you can do as a townie is not waste your vote.

 

I'll be back for you Shad.

[Pralaya]

This is back to 20+ pages a day. I have a hard time catching up.

[Nolder]

Forget the last 20 pages then.

 

Pral talk to me. Without catching up what does the vote count say to you, if anything?

[Pralaya]

Zass, who was voting Shad, is now voting a newer player along with Shad (I don't know why - presumably have to do with Hellian voting Zass).

 

Not sure of the John Snow train. I do think Ironeyes is town - some of his earlier replies sounded genuine. I can't comment much on this train - could very well be mostly townies. But possibility of a scum here. 

 

Nolder suspecting Shad right from the beginning, also think you are town. I can see where you are coming from. 

 

(I need to figure out why people are voting John Snow). 

[Nolder]

Ok

[Pralaya]

Page 25 - I read Dice's entry. He looks good there - some of the thoughts match with what I was feeling when I was reading Shad.

 

Dice why exactly are you voting Shad?

 

he claimed mafia,.

 

i realize that the way he did it fitted nicely with the tone of the thread at the time but Shads a good enuff scumbag to put in the truth there and count on people thinking that scum never do that.

 

Im not discounting that he told the truth.  its probably a long shot but it IS possible.

 

the fact that I seem to be mindmelding with YOU and wifi may mean mafia has warped my brain massively.

 

Scum typically does jokingly claim mafia a lot of times. Have done that too. But, the dice thought process is figuring out things rather than baiting or nudging. Which is why I feel good about him. Let's see how that changes

[Pralaya]

I broke the page  

 

Page 25 - I read Dice's entry. He looks good there - some of the thoughts match with what I was feeling when I was reading Shad.

 

 

Dice why exactly are you voting Shad?

he claimed mafia,.

 

i realize that the way he did it fitted nicely with the tone of the thread at the time but Shads a good enuff scumbag to put in the truth there and count on people thinking that scum never do that.

 

Im not discounting that he told the truth.  its probably a long shot but it IS possible.

 

the fact that I seem to be mindmelding with YOU and wifi may mean mafia has warped my brain massively.

 

 

Scum typically does jokingly claim mafia a lot of times. Have done that too. But, the dice thought process is figuring out things rather than baiting or nudging. Which is why I feel good about him. Let's see how that changes

[Pralaya]

Dice tunneling me for claiming wolf on page 2.

 

And people wonder why I get frustrated.

Why is it surprising? I have done that a lot as scum to throw people off.

 

I still don't think you would do that vote-yourself AtE so early in the game as wolf (it wasn't anything close to lynch or something).

I think that is the only reason why I am seeing you as town - else the earlier posts does come out as wolfy.

[dicetosser1]

 

im taking a break  im now annoyed 

 

Dice, what exactly annoyed you enough to leave?

 

Doesn't seem to gel with a) being sure Shad is wolfy enough to keep your vote or b) Zander doing Zander things and I don't see anything else. 

 

Since when do you up and leave over either of those?

 

 

Im NOT sure he is a wolf. But im also not sure hes Town tho his posts after have been pretty good tho im 10 odd pages behind. Im on him because  i had found something i didnt like from him and then there was the whole ATE self vote rubbish. As i said its the easiest thing in the world to fake. If you do fake it you are looking for EXACTLY what he got when Zander unvoted. The only time i can think of off the top of my head that Shad kinda went ATE was when i rolecopped him and he went all "who rolecops me?? who DOES that" or along those lines. Guess what he flipped? So im not going to clear him simply cause he flipped out. He sharp enuff to do it on purpose. I try not to dsiscount anything with shad.

 

Zander only bothered me in that I think he did exactly what shad may have wanted.

 

 

As for annoyed   shad annoyed me with that tunnel comment plus i had my daughter whinging in my ear for the computer and i got the  @#$%s  better to leave then say something I shouldnt

 

 

 

wrong

 

i voted you for that then ive been catching up and evaluating while putting these posts up

 

im not moving my vbote simply cause you went all fake ate. You wanna do that? you wanna vote ureself cause people are sus of you in a game where you have to be sus of pretty much everyone if ure town?  then im more then happy to put you out of your misery and take you out of the game.

 

 

that ATE blast says NOTHING for your alignment. Its the easiest thing to do as scum. Thats why its styupid for Zander to instantly unvote for it.

 

 

so no im NOT tunnelling you for claiming mafia on page 2, tho i will say that, particualrly for you Mr Spreadsheet, that if ure stupid enuff to claim mafia in a game im in then you should be expecting me to go you for it,  I am staying on you for that little blow up

Mate, I feel you, but he voted himself and then unvoted the post after. It was clearly a joke and he wasn't going to dick himself cause he's frustrated. I can recall it happening twice on the site (Sili, and I think I remember someone else, though could've been a while ago) and both times the player was town. I get you're annoyed but this just reads like "I'm annoyed, I'm voting him" rather than "He's scum".

 

 

I mean the self vote is a type of thing Scum!Dice could easily jump all over.

 

And I felt really good about that post.

 

Till I looked back at the game where Dice and AJ were Scum together and Dice made that "kinda pissed/snarky" post about AJ and my view on Dice is wavering much more.

 

 

 

 

actually that blast at AJ was 100% legit. Afterwards I did hope hed work it but at the time he had really annoyed me.

 

I find I cant fake that tone. Believe me ive tried and it just doesnt work

[dicetosser1]

regarding tiink  ive got him townie   darthe quoted something saying it was a townie post but there was something  re shad i think   that had stood out to me as town thinking.  and i may have just deleted the quote i wanted cause i couldnt remember what i was going to say about it.....

[dicetosser1]

 

Anyone yet find a reason Hellian is a villager?

 

Anyone have a better suggestion?

It's not that I have a better suggestion it's that I have a problem with approaching trying to solve a game from the perspective of " how do we not lose". Bad reason to push a lynch. I'd prefer dice tbh

 

 

you may have said it but i havent seen it yet

 

 

why?

[Nolder]

Morning Dice.

[dicetosser1]

hey nol  hows it going?

 

 

thoughts?

[dicetosser1]

dm is being weird for me.

 

 

 

I'm always happy with a Zander lynch. Always.

He could be my lover and I'd lynch him. Reading him gives me a headache. 

 

90% of the time you SHOULD lynch ure Lover.

 

If youve requested that I do anything since I was last here you should know that im way too lazy and my time is far too limited, so no.

If you fear that im a wolf, you should know that the fact you have the thought that I might be a wolf is confirmation that im not, as I can and absolutely would fool every one of you. Especially day one.


I think that resolves most mentions of me. In particular I also remember cass asking why dice, and the short answer is that im a goat dice reader. The long answer is that he isnt going to respond well to me calling him a wolf two games in a row and I want to see that response so that I can establish a goat dice read.

 

you're TRYING to get called names arnt you???

 

 

Positive reinforcement affects me way more than people seem to think.

Maybe I should retune my approach to you then.

Dice reasons pretty please?

 

 

see above

[Cass]

 

 

im taking a break  im now annoyed

 

 

Dice, what exactly annoyed you enough to leave?

 

Doesn't seem to gel with a) being sure Shad is wolfy enough to keep your vote or b) Zander doing Zander things and I don't see anything else. 

 

Since when do you up and leave over either of those?

 

Im NOT sure he is a wolf. But im also not sure hes Town tho his posts after have been pretty good tho im 10 odd pages behind. Im on him because  i had found something i didnt like from him and then there was the whole ATE self vote rubbish. As i said its the easiest thing in the world to fake. If you do fake it you are looking for EXACTLY what he got when Zander unvoted. The only time i can think of off the top of my head that Shad kinda went ATE was when i rolecopped him and he went all "who rolecops me?? who DOES that" or along those lines. Guess what he flipped? So im not going to clear him simply cause he flipped out. He sharp enuff to do it on purpose. I try not to dsiscount anything with shad.

 

Zander only bothered me in that I think he did exactly what shad may have wanted.

 

 

As for annoyed   shad annoyed me with that tunnel comment plus i had my daughter whinging in my ear for the computer and i got the  @#$%s  better to leave then say something I shouldnt

 

 

 

 

wrong

 

i voted you for that then ive been catching up and evaluating while putting these posts up

 

im not moving my vbote simply cause you went all fake ate. You wanna do that? you wanna vote ureself cause people are sus of you in a game where you have to be sus of pretty much everyone if ure town?  then im more then happy to put you out of your misery and take you out of the game.

 

 

that ATE blast says NOTHING for your alignment. Its the easiest thing to do as scum. Thats why its styupid for Zander to instantly unvote for it.

 

 

so no im NOT tunnelling you for claiming mafia on page 2, tho i will say that, particualrly for you Mr Spreadsheet, that if ure stupid enuff to claim mafia in a game im in then you should be expecting me to go you for it,  I am staying on you for that little blow up

 

Mate, I feel you, but he voted himself and then unvoted the post after. It was clearly a joke and he wasn't going to dick himself cause he's frustrated. I can recall it happening twice on the site (Sili, and I think I remember someone else, though could've been a while ago) and both times the player was town. I get you're annoyed but this just reads like "I'm annoyed, I'm voting him" rather than "He's scum".

 

I mean the self vote is a type of thing Scum!Dice could easily jump all over.

 

And I felt really good about that post.

 

Till I looked back at the game where Dice and AJ were Scum together and Dice made that "kinda pissed/snarky" post about AJ and my view on Dice is wavering much more.

 

actually that blast at AJ was 100% legit. Afterwards I did hope hed work it but at the time he had really annoyed me.

 

I find I cant fake that tone. Believe me ive tried and it just doesnt work

I have tinfoil thoughts on the bold but can you explain what you mean?

 

And ISO Hellian/tell me what you think?

And catch up on Shad and do the same?

 

FWIW I don't agree with Zander that Shad wouldn't use AtE as wolf.

 

I am mind-melding with a lot of his recent stuff though think it shows high level of WIM and think that probably looks good for him.

 

FTR Zander mindmeld Twin. Again.

 

FWIW I'm not going to give Dice a pass just for that tone yet.

 

Tress mentionined recently that him jumping on early maf claims is a legit pet hate for him that he clings to in either alignment. He gives his best aggression as wolf when the thing he is picking on legitimately bothers him. I don't think he's an easy read yet and I want more of his thoughts on the board.

[Nolder]

hey nol  hows it going?

 

 

thoughts?

Alright, just killing time before bed.

 

Thoughts on what?

[Nolder]

Hello Cass.

[dicetosser1]

so far im happy with

 

zass    and actually its CASS' excitement thats REALLY making this read. Zanders towning but cass is screaming.

 

tinker and marsh   have liked both. there was one post from tinker that just made me nod and go  hes town.  Marsh is relaxed and feels good. I quite liked this http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98813-tarmon-gaidon-advanced-mafia/page-40?do=findComment&comment=3709347

 

reason ive put them together is i read something in this catch up and feel like im mixing them up somehow. may just be too many pages

 

 

wifi  that post Snow didnt like   the ate one   i liked it. I read Zanders post that she responded to and thought it was actually kinda rude. That post of hers says to me that he annoyed her and she let him know it. For the rest shes largely sounding like what ive gotten used to from town wifi. last game she sounded differently but she was my peek so i had to hold off on her

 

Hallia   this is purely for the claim and the way it was done    that reminds me!  Marsh   the thing i liked was the post he claimed perrin.   

 

back to hallia   its completely about the claim and the fact thart its hallia doing it

 

 

 

not likeing

 

Hellian   is doing nothing for me  just not feeling it.

 

snow   disagree re wildfire need to read his reads list again.  thing is i always think he is scummy. willing to give some time

 

shad   im being stubborn and i know it. posts are better but I DONT like the mafia claim or the ATE and the tunneling comment still annoys me. I refuse to clear him cause "mafia wouldnt do that" or for the  ate.  Being realistic  he wont get lynched today  and i REALLY hope he gets copped tonight

[dicetosser1]

just game thoughts nol

 

 

 

@cass   when i say that about zander? imagine we are in skype. Id be reaching for my bat. its Zander frustration for Zander doing Zander things 

[Pralaya]

Nope, I didn't, and methinks he's fishing

 

Vote: John Snow

 

 

*shrug* claiming Nyn is a soft doc claim. She's the most likely candidate for a doc. 

 

Who else would be a doc in WoT?

Don't like the Hallia vote here. She says that JOhn is fishing but it was a "char claim" comment quite early in the game.

 

In any case, the game is not going to be solved by char and role claims.

[dicetosser1]

one thing he did that I didnt like Pral was calling out Nyn as the obvious Doc role

 

 

yes i get that DM players most of all would know that  but i kinda think you dont point it out just in case mafia somehow misses it.  longshot but still

[Nolder]

I like to hold most of my thoughts until Day 2 since they tend to change rapidly with the lynch and kill because there's so much extra info to go on at that point and I hate pointing to someone and clearing them or condemning them and then doing a 180 within hours because of new info. People tend to get confused and lynch me over it.

 

That said I'm feeling bad about Hallia, Shad, and Hellion.

Could lynch any of these three but prefer Shad overall I just don't think it's happening.

[dicetosser1]

fair enuff nol

[Tiinker]

Are people voting Hellian because lack of activity?