Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Zander?]

L

 

ugh

 

Nolder's probably a villager.

 

Reference massive thread derailment in Nightmare Before Christmas to see what I'm talking about.  If I get into this with him it will be a never ending cycle of him refusing to talk to me because of some imaginary slight on my end.

 

Moving on.

Lol or you two are scumbuddies and staged this whole thing. But that's just tinfoil on my part

 

God I want Iron to be Town like reallllllll bad!!!!!!

 

lolololololol

[Nolder]

I'm going to lunch in a bit so if anyone has any questions for me get them in now or I'll address them later.

[Tiinker]

 

I'll do a reread of Shad once I finish going through these few lectures. He seems different but from what I can tell I could chalk it up to too many energy bars. Not sure the motivation itself is too different from previous games. 

 

 

Honestly, I'd have to go and analyse his other games since he was absent early in OW and honestly don't know if I cbf. bare with me plz

 

Wanna see what you come back with irt Shad.

 

 

Don't get too excited cause it'll likely be a let down.

[Zander?]

You're freaking out because Zander's telling you I'm a wolf and you trust his ability to read me.

 

Zander's never read me correctly out the gate in any game ever.

 

I'll humor you later if I have the time, but I'm not particularly interested in defending myself at the moment.

 

TBF- This is prolly more true then Id like to admit.

 

Cass actually mentioned it first if youre a Wolf

 

If youre not I did because CASSGOAT LDO!!!!!

 

lololololol

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I find it odd how Shad can throw out so many town leans that quickly

 

"Is x-person posting things? Yes?  Better give town lean"  

Don't worry, I still think you're scum. <3

 

 

It's ok.  I can prove my towniness; can you?  

 

 

Promise Halessi?!?!?!?!!?

 

YUZ

 

 

People can be serious at any point.

I can't tell if this is serious or not. Well done.

 

It is.  And also, seriously.  I like your vibes so far this game.  You sound pretty on point.

 

 

Also feeling good about Tiink.  I've played a fewww scum games from here and his tone is different.  A lot more like last game.

 

 

Why didnt your response make me feel better Hallia....????

 

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[Cass]

 

 

 

 

 

He's definitely drumming up reads awful fast.

 

 

Thoughts on other players? 

 

 

yolo intro/early readsZander/CassDiceWifiPralDarthe?Snow?

 

I'm not even going to call Halli a mild wolf lean because that feel from me at this stage is as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

If you ask me what made me give Darthe and Snow minuscule town leans I'm going to say it's page 11 and ignore you.

 

I suppose Wifi has already started looking like she did in Demon's Cove, when she was town. But Snow has done literally nothing but drill me in his three or four posts so far. I don't see where you get a green out of that. It's literally exactly what Clovdyx did in Demon's cove and he was a scum mastermind.

I think this is towny

Why?

I don't know if it's towny but I don't hate WiFi and I haven't seen anything from Snow that puts him anymore near Town than Iron.

There's a sense of honest disgruntledness to it. WiFi doesn't sound particularly town to me but she always plays this way and since he's a returning player him referring back to a previous game shows he's at least looking for reasons for it to be true rather than jumping on her ass. I thought it was a good post.

I don't hate this response.

I don't know that I'd feel disgruntled at seeing a reason to lean someone Town though. That stood out to me, as did the mention of ClovScum mastermind. Watching that space.

 

It's because he seems honest not because he's disgruntled.

 

 

Yeah I follow your thought process. My thoughts were that disgruntled doesn't necessarily equal honest.

 

 

 

 

 

Shad, can your Town read of us?

 

 

Yeah.  I'm not as confident on my ability to read you as you tend to think.  I've never played against you when you were a wolf and I don't know what exactly your ticks are, but I can say that if you are a wolf you fake your early game paranoia well, and that's a reason to think you're town.  That was my light green yesterday.

 

Zander's always easy.  It's not the fact that he's tunneling me already.  That's such a well-established characteristic of his town game at this point that he's practically guaranteed to do it as a wolf sooner or later.  It's the way in which he's approaching me, and others.  There's a rational progression to how his concerns arise.  Scum!Zander will grab at random crap that does not reflect a coherent thought process or else remain hopelessly vague.

 

Still too early to rule out a really solid wolf start, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on your slot.  If I'm wrong it will show soon enough.

My issue with it is you made the read earlier and with less consideration than I've seen you do previously I can't yet believe in your progression.

Which specific posts of Z's showed you he was approaching you and others in a way that was indicative of him as Town?

I'm hydra'd with him and don't see it by the time you posted our names in green.

Also, the way you just described figuring me out here is kind of butt about face compared to the way you've done it in every game to date.

 

 

Has he been town in all those games?

 

 

Yes.

 

 

Also @ShadTalk to me about Halleh

I suck at reading Halli.Iron joke voted Zander as 'lynch this guy so us low volume players can keep up'. You guys responded negatively about it. Goofy but fine for you two. Halli pulled Iron's joke as the only thing that had stood out to her in catch-up. Felt like piggybacking. That joke should not ping most people. Compliments Zander, says she's willing to give Iron more time as if anyone in their right mind was lynching him for an intro joke vote. I was getting a pocket/piggyback vibe out of her.But I suck at reading Halli.I've mislynched her a lot and I still don't have a grasp on distinguishing the negative pings I get from scum!Halli from the ones I get from town!Halli.Like, to the point where I'd rather just follow other people's reads on her because I'm hopeless.

The bold were the two things standing out to me, but could equally be null so I'm ok with the Hally read for now.

[Ironeyes]

 

L

 

ugh

 

Nolder's probably a villager.

 

Reference massive thread derailment in Nightmare Before Christmas to see what I'm talking about.  If I get into this with him it will be a never ending cycle of him refusing to talk to me because of some imaginary slight on my end.

 

Moving on.

Lol or you two are scumbuddies and staged this whole thing. But that's just tinfoil on my part

 

God I want Iron to be Town like reallllllll bad!!!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

That makes me happy. 

[Zander?]

Shad who are you currently voting for? I'm too lazy to go back and check.

 

Believer not being a force so far like last game.

 

Noted.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

He's definitely drumming up reads awful fast.

 

 

Thoughts on other players? 

 

Zander, and I guess you by extension, are townish. Ironeyes seems town. I'd lean to Hallia as being more town as well though I might be psyching myself into that. Gonna need to see more of the game.

 

 

What in specific about Hallia's game is making you feel that way about her?

 

She has this way where she just pokes in and says something straight but without much elaboration. Last game I thought it was something like a "fake contribution" but I was totally wrong. Here is seems the same but in combination with a different tone. In combo with her weird character claim it feels too ballsy and honestly could mean a good many things which are very towny. 

 

 

Have you seen her Scum?

 

Her early games as either alignment tend to be quite similar.

[Ironeyes]

 

Shad who are you currently voting for? I'm too lazy to go back and check.

 

Believer not being a force so far like last game.

 

Noted.

 

I don't want to give him a town read based solely on that though because in the Disney game he lurked on purpose so he could pull his IC trick at the end. I'm kinda WIFOMing, cause that could be his legit town meta or he could be capitalizing on the fact that half of us were in that game to use it as a scum cover. 

[Zander?]

I'm going to lunch in a bit so if anyone has any questions for me get them in now or I'll address them later.

 

I like lunching WOlves!!!!!

 

Any reads other then Shad?

 

 

 

I'll do a reread of Shad once I finish going through these few lectures. He seems different but from what I can tell I could chalk it up to too many energy bars. Not sure the motivation itself is too different from previous games. 

 

 

Honestly, I'd have to go and analyse his other games since he was absent early in OW and honestly don't know if I cbf. bare with me plz

 

Wanna see what you come back with irt Shad.

 

 

Don't get too excited cause it'll likely be a let down.

 

 

Dont let me down!!!!!!!!

[Zander?]

 

 

L

 

ugh

 

Nolder's probably a villager.

 

Reference massive thread derailment in Nightmare Before Christmas to see what I'm talking about.  If I get into this with him it will be a never ending cycle of him refusing to talk to me because of some imaginary slight on my end.

 

Moving on.

Lol or you two are scumbuddies and staged this whole thing. But that's just tinfoil on my part

 

God I want Iron to be Town like reallllllll bad!!!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

That makes me happy. 

 

 

Im just like a high class hooker, i guarantee happiness!!!!!

 

lololololol

[Nolder]

Not really. I agree with Tiink that Hallia feels different but other than that I got nothing.

[Ironeyes]

[Zander?]

 

 

Shad who are you currently voting for? I'm too lazy to go back and check.

 

Believer not being a force so far like last game.

 

Noted.

 

I don't want to give him a town read based solely on that though because in the Disney game he lurked on purpose so he could pull his IC trick at the end. I'm kinda WIFOMing, cause that could be his legit town meta or he could be capitalizing on the fact that half of us were in that game to use it as a scum cover. 

 

 

Maybe Im not understanding your wording.

 

But Im saying Im sussing him because he seems to be playing differently imo.

[Ironeyes]

^that was for

 

 

 

 

Dont let me down!!!!!!!!

 

I got ninja'd

[Zander?]

Not really. I agree with Tiink that Hallia feels different but other than that I got nothing.

 

What about me and Cass?

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

Shad who are you currently voting for? I'm too lazy to go back and check.

 

Believer not being a force so far like last game.

 

Noted.

 

I don't want to give him a town read based solely on that though because in the Disney game he lurked on purpose so he could pull his IC trick at the end. I'm kinda WIFOMing, cause that could be his legit town meta or he could be capitalizing on the fact that half of us were in that game to use it as a scum cover. 

 

 

Maybe Im not understanding your wording.

 

But Im saying Im sussing him because he seems to be playing differently imo.

 

Ok that makes sense. I thought you were referring to the Disney game where he played scummy on purpose. It's the only game I've played with him so that was what I though of first

[Nolder]

 

Not really. I agree with Tiink that Hallia feels different but other than that I got nothing.

 

What about me and Cass?

 

Nothing stands out yet.

 

Ok I'm out to lunch.

[Zander?]

Cass if I say I wanna make Iron a slight Town read will you tell me Im stupid?!?!?!!?!!?

[Zander?]

Lack of crazy beautiful GOAT brain breaking Wifi posts is a little worrisome atp.

[Believer]

 

 

Shad who are you currently voting for? I'm too lazy to go back and check.

 

Believer not being a force so far like last game.

 

Noted.

 

I don't want to give him a town read based solely on that though because in the Disney game he lurked on purpose so he could pull his IC trick at the end. I'm kinda WIFOMing, cause that could be his legit town meta or he could be capitalizing on the fact that half of us were in that game to use it as a scum cover.

 

This forum takes D1 a lot more seriously than any other I've ever been to, in my opinion needlessly.

 

For me, the game really starts on D2.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Shad who are you currently voting for? I'm too lazy to go back and check.

 

Believer not being a force so far like last game.

 

Noted.

 

I don't want to give him a town read based solely on that though because in the Disney game he lurked on purpose so he could pull his IC trick at the end. I'm kinda WIFOMing, cause that could be his legit town meta or he could be capitalizing on the fact that half of us were in that game to use it as a scum cover.

 

This forum takes D1 a lot more seriously than any other I've ever been to, in my opinion needlessly.

 

For me, the game really starts on D2.

 

 

Like you havent even told anyone to have a little....

 

 

What am i to make of this?!?!!?!?!?!

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

Shad who are you currently voting for? I'm too lazy to go back and check.

 

Believer not being a force so far like last game.

 

Noted.

 

I don't want to give him a town read based solely on that though because in the Disney game he lurked on purpose so he could pull his IC trick at the end. I'm kinda WIFOMing, cause that could be his legit town meta or he could be capitalizing on the fact that half of us were in that game to use it as a scum cover.

 

This forum takes D1 a lot more seriously than any other I've ever been to, in my opinion needlessly.

 

For me, the game really starts on D2.

 

Well that's how it used to be, which is why I've already said I suck at day one play. Back when I played mafia here originally the day one lynch was practically a crapshoot. Then we started doing stuff based on that person's alignment. 

[Zander?]

D1 usually only sucks till DL and EOD.  Then theres more info to make better informed reads.

 

We still got get there first and Id really like to Lunch a Wolf and not a Towny.

 

If youre Town you need to show it.