Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[BFG]

D3 Votecount

 

 

Kat (5): Tiinker, Shad, Darthe, WiFi, Ironeyes

 

Darthe (3): Zass, Hallia, Pral

 

 

Not Voting (1): Kat

 

[Tiinker]

 

 

 

 

 

I actually don't mind either kat or darthe tonight. 

 

Like I said before both of them are suspect based on how D1 and D2 went. I frankly don't have anything new to add.

 

If youre not gonna be around vote darthe imo.

 

 

I will be around for a long time from now. it is just the day starting for me, lol.

 

Anyway,  [unvote]  [v]darthe[/v] works for me.

 

 

You think with Darthe claiming Commuter and Hallia Doc a Darthe!Scum flip should completely lock clear Hallia or just about?

 

How do you feel about Hallia's claim by itself.

 

Then add the res of the game and tell me your read on her please?

 

This I can agree with.  There would not be enough protective roles to justify a multi-use strongman if they were w/w, imo.

 

 

Ive said/asked this like a whole bunch of times to like a whole bunch of people!!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

 

Ironically, the one who pointed this out (or something similar) in the QT was your boy Darthe.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I actually don't mind either kat or darthe tonight. 

 

Like I said before both of them are suspect based on how D1 and D2 went. I frankly don't have anything new to add.

 

If youre not gonna be around vote darthe imo.

 

 

I will be around for a long time from now. it is just the day starting for me, lol.

 

Anyway,  [unvote]  [v]darthe[/v] works for me.

 

 

You think with Darthe claiming Commuter and Hallia Doc a Darthe!Scum flip should completely lock clear Hallia or just about?

 

How do you feel about Hallia's claim by itself.

 

Then add the res of the game and tell me your read on her please?

 

This I can agree with.  There would not be enough protective roles to justify a multi-use strongman if they were w/w, imo.

 

 

Ive said/asked this like a whole bunch of times to like a whole bunch of people!!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

 

Ironically, the one who pointed this out (or something similar) in the QT was your boy Darthe.

 

 

Obv he should do this as either alignment based off of both his and Hallia's claim.

[Shad_]

Which is more likely in Shadland??

 

Kats a Wolf and so is Darthe

 

Kats a Wolf and Darthe is Town

 

Darthe's a Wolf and Kat is Town

 

Neither is a Wolf

If neither is a wolf, we're in trouble. Both have done suspicious things. I would say I feel slightly more confident lynching Kat than Darthe but I think that's mainly because my Kat concerns are just festering in stagnation while Darthe's been here arguing his case and because I don't agree with the recent (not current mind you) points that have been raised against Darthe.  That naturally generates some hesitation.  Could be hesitation for bad reasons.  It's not like scum!Darthe is just going to bow out of the game.

 

I haven't focused on Wifi too much because I still think she's playing at the level of chaos I expect from her town game and not from her scum game, but I'd be lying if I told you I'm not constantly tinfoiling on her.  Without digging into her too deep my base memory of her content says that if she's a wolf she's most likely a wolf with Kat, which gives me a little more incentive to want to see a Kat flip.  But I can't honestly say that a scum flip on either of Kat/Darthe would make me suddenly not want to lynch the other.

 

Basically if EoD was in 30 seconds and I had no time to catch up on what all I'm missing I'd leave my vote parked on Kat, but I'm not opposed to either.

[BFG]

I'm out for a while for work stuff so there won't be any VC updates for a few hours

[Tiinker]

 

I haven't focused on Wifi too much because I still think she's playing at the level of chaos I expect from her town game and not from her scum game, but I'd be lying if I told you I'm not constantly tinfoiling on her.  Without digging into her too deep my base memory of her content says that if she's a wolf she's most likely a wolf with Kat, which gives me a little more incentive to want to see a Kat flip.  But I can't honestly say that a scum flip on either of Kat/Darthe would make me suddenly not want to lynch the other.

 

Anything on anyone who's not Kat/Darthe?

[Tiinker]

 

 

 

I haven't focused on Wifi too much because I still think she's playing at the level of chaos I expect from her town game and not from her scum game, but I'd be lying if I told you I'm not constantly tinfoiling on her.  Without digging into her too deep my base memory of her content says that if she's a wolf she's most likely a wolf with Kat, which gives me a little more incentive to want to see a Kat flip.  But I can't honestly say that a scum flip on either of Kat/Darthe would make me suddenly not want to lynch the other.

 

Lol interesting way of putting it

 

[Zander?]

 

Which is more likely in Shadland??

 

Kats a Wolf and so is Darthe

 

Kats a Wolf and Darthe is Town

 

Darthe's a Wolf and Kat is Town

 

Neither is a Wolf

If neither is a wolf, we're in trouble. Both have done suspicious things. I would say I feel slightly more confident lynching Kat than Darthe but I think that's mainly because my Kat concerns are just festering in stagnation while Darthe's been here arguing his case and because I don't agree with the recent (not current mind you) points that have been raised against Darthe.  That naturally generates some hesitation.  Could be hesitation for bad reasons.  It's not like scum!Darthe is just going to bow out of the game.

 

I haven't focused on Wifi too much because I still think she's playing at the level of chaos I expect from her town game and not from her scum game, but I'd be lying if I told you I'm not constantly tinfoiling on her.  Without digging into her too deep my base memory of her content says that if she's a wolf she's most likely a wolf with Kat, which gives me a little more incentive to want to see a Kat flip.  But I can't honestly say that a scum flip on either of Kat/Darthe would make me suddenly not want to lynch the other.

 

Basically if EoD was in 30 seconds and I had no time to catch up on what all I'm missing I'd leave my vote parked on Kat, but I'm not opposed to either.

 

 

Which scenario is MOST likely based on your reads Shad.

 

Not a complicated question imo.

 

Taking all other factors away:

 

So you think its a better idea to lynch Kat so you can try to make an associative read from it on Wifi over lynching Darthe which would basically clear or condemn the Town???

[Shad_]

 

 

Cass called this out in the QT and Im inclined to agree with her, you seem pretty hedgey on a lot of stuff.

 

Some things I get but others not so much,

 

Yes Shad we know youre not the Mod but you still should have a personal opinion on it imo.

My personal opinion is that BFG is not a bad mod.

 

If you disagree and think that she would give the wolves really obvious fake claims that is your problem.

 

 

Dude thats not what I said and I think its a pretty dick thing to say that I even IMPLIED that because I didnt

 

Im just saying i think Town!Shad would AT LEAST have an opinion on it.

 

Like trying to figure out even with fake role claims if the claimed roles make any sort of sense.

 

You can call it a dick thing to say, but when you repeatedly refuse to accept "I think BFG attempted to create a balanced set-up and provide wolves with fake claims that would not out them" as an answer, I don't know what else to tell you.

[Shad_]

 

 

Which is more likely in Shadland??

 

Kats a Wolf and so is Darthe

 

Kats a Wolf and Darthe is Town

 

Darthe's a Wolf and Kat is Town

 

Neither is a Wolf

If neither is a wolf, we're in trouble. Both have done suspicious things. I would say I feel slightly more confident lynching Kat than Darthe but I think that's mainly because my Kat concerns are just festering in stagnation while Darthe's been here arguing his case and because I don't agree with the recent (not current mind you) points that have been raised against Darthe.  That naturally generates some hesitation.  Could be hesitation for bad reasons.  It's not like scum!Darthe is just going to bow out of the game.

 

I haven't focused on Wifi too much because I still think she's playing at the level of chaos I expect from her town game and not from her scum game, but I'd be lying if I told you I'm not constantly tinfoiling on her.  Without digging into her too deep my base memory of her content says that if she's a wolf she's most likely a wolf with Kat, which gives me a little more incentive to want to see a Kat flip.  But I can't honestly say that a scum flip on either of Kat/Darthe would make me suddenly not want to lynch the other.

 

Basically if EoD was in 30 seconds and I had no time to catch up on what all I'm missing I'd leave my vote parked on Kat, but I'm not opposed to either.

 

 

Which scenario is MOST likely based on your reads Shad.

 

Not a complicated question imo.

 

Taking all other factors away:

 

So you think its a better idea to lynch Kat so you can try to make an associative read from it on Wifi over lynching Darthe which would basically clear or condemn the Town???

 

I don't understand any of this.

[Zander?]

Im simply asking you Shad with what WE KNOW....do those 2 roles make sense together????

 

Jesus if youre Town just answer my question with an answer and Ill stfu.

[Shad_]

I have to go for a while. This is annoying and I'm probably just going to leave my vote parked on Kat.

[Shad_]

Im simply asking you Shad with what WE KNOW....do those 2 roles make sense together????

 

Jesus if youre Town just answer my question with an answer and Ill stfu.

I AM NOT THE MOD

[Shad_]

Yeah this is really annoying

[Shad_]

My kid's screaming, I don't have time to argue stupid shit, yolo my votes on Kat see you all in night QT.

[Darthe]

also @ Darthe

 

the last post i trimmed but there were other questions  asked there and in other MQ's

 

Would really appreciate it if you could answer them for me please.

It's a bit much for me atm, I'm at work and have taken a lot of liberties to do what I did already today. Can you make this more salient? I recall you mentioning some defense of laya and I gotta say its just stuff I havent noticed.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Which is more likely in Shadland??

 

Kats a Wolf and so is Darthe

 

Kats a Wolf and Darthe is Town

 

Darthe's a Wolf and Kat is Town

 

Neither is a Wolf

If neither is a wolf, we're in trouble. Both have done suspicious things. I would say I feel slightly more confident lynching Kat than Darthe but I think that's mainly because my Kat concerns are just festering in stagnation while Darthe's been here arguing his case and because I don't agree with the recent (not current mind you) points that have been raised against Darthe.  That naturally generates some hesitation.  Could be hesitation for bad reasons.  It's not like scum!Darthe is just going to bow out of the game.

 

I haven't focused on Wifi too much because I still think she's playing at the level of chaos I expect from her town game and not from her scum game, but I'd be lying if I told you I'm not constantly tinfoiling on her.  Without digging into her too deep my base memory of her content says that if she's a wolf she's most likely a wolf with Kat, which gives me a little more incentive to want to see a Kat flip.  But I can't honestly say that a scum flip on either of Kat/Darthe would make me suddenly not want to lynch the other.

 

Basically if EoD was in 30 seconds and I had no time to catch up on what all I'm missing I'd leave my vote parked on Kat, but I'm not opposed to either.

 

 

Which scenario is MOST likely based on your reads Shad.

 

Not a complicated question imo.

 

Taking all other factors away:

 

So you think its a better idea to lynch Kat so you can try to make an associative read from it on Wifi over lynching Darthe which would basically clear or condemn the Town???

 

I don't understand any of this.

 

 

Dude you said you had a little more incentive to lynch Kat because you think her and Wifi can be w/w- aka an associative read.

 

And I said, you think thats a better idea or more pro Town move then lynching Darthe, whose flip would basically clear or condemn the claimed Doc.

 

To sum it up.

 

Based on what you said:

 

A Kat Town flip...would not tell you anything really about Wifi based on your poss them being w/w.

 

A Kat Scum flip...would make what you say poss but not would not be AS poss imo as say

 

A Darthe Scum flip pretty much lock clearing Hallia.

 

A Darthe Town flip is pretty much condemning to Hallia.

 

I dont see how you dont understand this.

[Zander?]

I have to go for a while. This is annoying and I'm probably just going to leave my vote parked on Kat.

 

 

 

Im simply asking you Shad with what WE KNOW....do those 2 roles make sense together????

 

Jesus if youre Town just answer my question with an answer and Ill stfu.

I AM NOT THE MOD

 

 

 

Yeah this is really annoying

 

 

My kid's screaming, I don't have time to argue stupid shit, yolo my votes on Kat see you all in night QT.

 

A Darthe Scum flip raises Shads Wolf equity more then just the increased probability (%) which comes from lowering the number of players remaining imo.

[Tiinker]

lol how did you get that from those posts?

[Tiinker]

Is a Darthe town flip condeming for Hallia??

[Tiinker]

I don't think commuter + doc when strongman faction kill is available is that unreasonable.

[Zander?]

lol how did you get that from those posts?

 

Would you say Shads pretty much not taken a solid stance on much of anything?

 

Regardless of fake role claims...is it really hard to believe should still have at least SOME thoughts on that???

 

Especially since he agreed with me on one of my posts about it???

 

Shad says he just gonna park his vote on kat basically and peace out.

 

He says  Kat Scum flip would likely make Wifi Scum with her.  This does make sense to me as Ive stated the poss already.

 

But my concern is if shes Town does that say anything about Wifi or anyone else really?

 

Now if we lunch Darthe and he flips Scum....this pretty much clears Halii

 

AND

 

If Darthe happens to flip Town it pretty much condemns Hallia.

 

Which seems to be the better choice iyo?

 

Is a Darthe town flip condeming for Hallia??

 

See above and most of my last 10-20 posts imo.

[Darthe]

Is there anyone who me flipping doesnt condemn?

 

That in and of itself seems to point to town me too btw

[Zander?]

Both NEED to be resolved imo

 

I just think Darthes the better option.

 

It basically confirms Hallia one way or the other with w/e he flips.

 

Does this make sense to anyone else???

[Zander?]

Is there anyone who me flipping doesnt condemn?

 

That in and of itself seems to point to town me too btw

 

With the ability me and Cass still have, a confirmed Doc with uses left will make it really hard for Wolves to kill people.