Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Darthe]

Laya whats in your head this game?

[Cass]

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

 

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

 

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

 

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

 

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

 

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit.  I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time.  Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

 

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

[Ironeyes]

Derf you're confusing me. EoD yesterday you were all about not getting lynched, but then you apparently want to draw the night kill, then you say you wouldn't accuse Zass of being scum if you wanted to live, but lunching you is a terrible decision for town.

 

So do you want to life or die? Cause you're giving mixed signals. Unless you're some sort of special third party who wins if you get NKd but loses if lynched, I don't see any rhyme or reason behind this.

[Cass]

 

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

If you are actually town this game, you have made some awful decisions this game. Not resolving kat D2 and instead moving onto Believer who was more or less confirmed town, not choosing you abilities, trying to draw NK etc. I don't see these coming from town you, frankly.

Yes I have. Believer made more sense to me but I think the rest of it in hindsight was inoptimal

How did Believer make MORE sense to you than Kat?

 

IMO it was fairly obvious that the dude was at a minimum trying very hard to draw the NK. There was an outside chance he was scum but after his previous game's play, and while that was an option he shouldn't have been an actual contender for the lynch.

[Ironeyes]

@Ironeyes I townread for a reason.

Ok could you explain? Maybe it was just coming off of D.C. where I was scum read by everyone, but at that point I didn't think I deserved a town read.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

If you are actually town this game, you have made some awful decisions this game. Not resolving kat D2 and instead moving onto Believer who was more or less confirmed town, not choosing you abilities, trying to draw NK etc. I don't see these coming from town you, frankly.

Yes I have. Believer made more sense to me but I think the rest of it in hindsight was inoptimal

How did Believer make MORE sense to you than Kat?

 

IMO it was fairly obvious that the dude was at a minimum trying very hard to draw the NK. There was an outside chance he was scum but after his previous game's play, and while that was an option he shouldn't have been an actual contender for the lynch.

I didnt read kat and I wanted wolves. Imo believe, especially post claim, didnt seem.. Believable.

[Darthe]

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

 

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

 

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

 

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

 

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

 

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

[Darthe]

Derf you're confusing me. EoD yesterday you were all about not getting lynched, but then you apparently want to draw the night kill, then you say you wouldn't accuse Zass of being scum if you wanted to live, but lunching you is a terrible decision for town.

 

So do you want to life or die? Cause you're giving mixed signals. Unless you're some sort of special third party who wins if you get NKd but loses if lynched, I don't see any rhyme or reason behind this.

Im gonna fight death but if im gonna die then im gonna go out doing my job right.

 

I couldnt at game start, bad irl timing from me and I didnt have my head in the game. Now ive got the time, I have the motivation, the only thing im missing is the right history to be in a good place help town. Post death my words are verified as coming from a tiwnie, so its worth it for me to dig atm and case rather than solely defend.

[Darthe]

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

 

 

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

 

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

[Cass]

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

 

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

 

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

 

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

 

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

 

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

 

 

Can you explain the bold?

 

And your reaction could go either way.

[Cass]

Darthe - Do you believe Hallia's claim?

[Darthe]

Have I been actually cased? I dont think I have. No one can show me being wplfy, manipulating things in any clear way or being dishonest. It doesnt exist.

 

What they can show is that ive said things people dont like and ive acted in a way that isnt *in hindsight* what was most beneficial for this town. Thats what layas voting me on, and thats flat out pitiful since it directly points to me being *UNINFORMED*.

 

You guys set up your martyr and are begging to please knock it down before It falls on you.

[Darthe]

Darthe - Do you believe Hallia's claim?

Yeah, I really doubted it last night cause three protective roles in game?? But its hard to get past the apparent lack of a wolf kill.

 

 

I believed it yesterday over believe and didn't think their could be three protects. Last night I doubted her because he was proven and I know mines real. Today I just look like a moron for doubting, so ive got little chpice but to believe somehow we have three.

 

 

Yet another point vouching for my consistency and openness despite *knowing* it would make me look worse.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

 

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

 

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

 

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

 

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

 

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

Can you explain the bold?

 

And your reaction could go either way.

Imagine a confirmed town player who can't be killed. Thats been my goal and I sware ive said that like three times now. All I need Is a peek or to clear myself which, I think, can be done.

[Darthe]

Am I wasting my time? Do any of you give a damn about trying to clear me if I am villa?

[Ironeyes]

For the record I don't hate the idea of leaving Darthe alive. He is showing a lot more interest in helping the town now and I'm curious to see where that goes.

[Tiinker]

 

@Ironeyes I townread for a reason.

Ok could you explain? Maybe it was just coming off of D.C. where I was scum read by everyone, but at that point I didn't think I deserved a town read.

 

 

I'm pretty sure every time I said I thought you were town I gave a reason. I'm not going to go back and find the specific posts but I remember it being to do with coming off as honestly disgruntled for the right reasons.

[Darthe]

Well im glad to know you dont hate it.

[Ironeyes]

 

 

@Ironeyes I townread for a reason.

Ok could you explain? Maybe it was just coming off of D.C. where I was scum read by everyone, but at that point I didn't think I deserved a town read.

I'm pretty sure every time I said I thought you were town I gave a reason. I'm not going to go back and find the specific posts but I remember it being to do with coming off as honestly disgruntled for the right reasons.

That's right... I was getting on someone's back for town reading JS or something

[Tiinker]

Have I been actually cased? I dont think I have. No one can show me being wplfy, manipulating things in any clear way or being dishonest. It doesnt exist.

 

What they can show is that ive said things people dont like and ive acted in a way that isnt *in hindsight* what was most beneficial for this town. Thats what layas voting me on, and thats flat out pitiful since it directly points to me being *UNINFORMED*.

 

You guys set up your martyr and are begging to please knock it down before It falls on you.

 

I'm pretty sure you have pretty significantly. I spent like all of the QT in N1 and in N2 talking about you.

[Tiinker]

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

 

 

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

 

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

 

Stop the WIM lol seriously. If there's this much pressure on you and it's lasted this long maybe you should really consider that you haven't played your best town game. 

 

The bold is something that I also want to avoid. 

[Ironeyes]

Well im glad to know you dont hate it.

It's more than that. I think I see someone or someones trying to save Kat again. Last EoD there was a sudden CFD that saved her, and now they're doing it again but early because there's a chance that the deadline comes soon. It makes me want to lynch Kat all the more.

[Ironeyes]

 

Well im glad to know you dont hate it.

It's more than that. I think I see someone or someones trying to save Kat again. Last EoD there was a sudden CFD that saved her, and now they're doing it again but early because there's a chance that the deadline comes soon. It makes me want to lynch Kat all the more.

And I know you said that already. I'm not trying to make it look like it was my idea. I'm just saying I see what you mean.

[Tiinker]

I want to see Shad case someone not Kat or Darthe. I've been relying on him in a lot of ways to bounce ideas off but he hasn't said much about me or anyone else really. Trying to fly under the radar while maintaining a strong position while everyone is preoccupied?

[Zander?]