[Role Madness] Overwatch Mafia - Game Over

[Nolder]

confession: i don't really like potato chips. i mean i like tortilla-based chips and doritos and chips like that, but straight up potato chips? no bueno.

 

except bbq.

Same, unless you have like an onion dip made from sour cream.

Then potato chips are essential.

[Lenlo]

 

I like Pral more ldo.

 

I expect more from Kat is the thing. This? This is exactly what I expect from Pral. And I dont like it, but its not as bad as Kat. Because I expect more from her. And shes not giving it.

 

 

You know what Zander, you convinced me. [v]Pral[/v]

 

Here, have your vote on Pral.

 

Even tho the 2nd follows I can still see a world where this could come from a Town!Lenlo PoV

 

Id hope so, considering thats the real world.

[Zander?]

yep

 

lulz

 

 

 

lol Z and Pral bussin'

BOOSTERS ENGAGED, SPEEDING TOWARDS SUPER PREEMPTIVE CONCLUSIONS

 

 

I can see a world where Town!Shad would say this whether he was actually thinking it or not cause on the chance it is this would be a strong clear and good cred post game.

 

If Pral is a Wolf your Wolfy equity increases a fair bit.

[Zander?]

We're still cool Z. 

 

 

Literally everyone voted except Kat and Pral

 

Correct

 

 

Like seriously if you vig him it could be bad.  Lynch tomorrow?  Am I crazy?

 

its ok odds of you seeing tomorrow are very slim

 

 

I honestly dont know if me just wanting you to be a Wolf is coloring my read on you....

 

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lololololol

[Zander?]

Zander I said I was sorry

 

I'll make it up to you somehow

 

If youre Town imma hold you to this.

 

 

 

Already said but vigging Pral is indeed a terrible idea considering Genji's ability L-SHIFT is "deflect" and I would wager a guess in what that could do in a mafia game

 

I never said anything about Pral

 

 

I'm a villager and I tried my best.

If you think I deserve retribution for not seeing eye-to-eye with you in a ultimately kind of stressful hour or two, that's your bad call.

 

 

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for my reads...

 

cory and crusher moved up to townies

 

pral moved down...though I guess its hind sight now... I was keeping on refreshing the page to keep up to date...so couldn't get this out in time...

 

oh and I also have a night activity that I am not sure how to use...and what exactly it does....got to talk to nolder...bbiam

 

Why Cory who started and drove the Kat mislynch make you slot him in as Towny?

[Zander?]

 

 

to my dear lunch buddies.

 

i'm liking Zander so far. he can be a tricky little tomtom, but he seems attentive, questioning and is pushing outwardly. he also was the first to call attention to what i felt was the most "important" thing to happen in the early pages, a set of introductory posts by Wildfire Sedai.

Doesn't he literally do that in all games, irrespective of whether he is town or scum? I can never make out whether Zander is town or scum so early in the game, frankly. 

 

 

again looks good for Z

 

 

Everyone remembers Pral likes to bus eh....

[Zander?]

Don't use it on me.

 

 

Well I guess you could.

 

The results would be kind of lulz.

 

Probably better options.

 

this is in reference to lens rb and might be something to take note of.

[Zander?]

One thing ive thought off as well if Pral were Town is Crushers voting.

 

Hes talked strangely about voting all game, like i mean he could do it etc.

 

i think he may have actually voted at some point but that non-vote after dl could have just been Crusher following through after scretly securing a ML and looking clean.

 

Not very likely obv imo but tinfoiling for me in the event Pral isnt a  Wolf.

[Shad_]

 

Don't use it on me.

 

 

Well I guess you could.

 

The results would be kind of lulz.

 

Probably better options.

 

this is in reference to lens rb and might be something to take note of.

 

 

Where do you even come up with this stuff?

[Shad_]

p60 maaaan I could have to eat crow before this game's out

[Shad_]

I dunno.  My faith is wavering pretty hard.

[Shad_]

I don't want to waste another evening reading nothing but Wifi.  Just be obvious if you're a villager.  -_-

[Shad_]

This is extremely well put for Wifi.

 

Youve got something else to say?

YES and it's a problem

[Shad_]

Your level of confidence on Hallia being a Wolf is very alarming considering how much you talk about your reads changing...

The confidence and clarity are both weird to me.

[Shad_]

Here's the thing...I usually get 1 or 2 good reads day 1 and when I try to tell others about them they get thrown down...like aj in like all the games we've played....and I am not talking about me being scared of him because of past experience...my very FIRST game with him I was town vig...I told everyone I thought aj was wolf NO ONE listened to me...I had 1 shot...so I shot him...HE WAS WOLF.  This has happened in virtually every game I have played...I have someone on my reads list who I think is wolfy early on and everyone else says no and they are wolf.

This is reassuring though.

[Zander?]

Well i reread EoD and this is kinda where im at,

 

Tinker- Claim and subsequent dl extension and way more invested then his last game where he was Scum.  His vote bothers me the least on the Kat train.

 

Crusher- I have very little Meta here. His EoD seemed ok irt to his Kat progression.  A Pral Scum flip would make me feel better about him.

 

Shad- Pinged me early on.  His catchup made me feel better about him.  EoD a little sketchy. 

 

Cory- I can see a world where the lynch on Kat could come from either alignment. I can see Town!Cory seeing its like little over an hour out and try to get things going.  I can also see a world where Scum!Cory was just trying to get an ML.

 

Lenlo- Involvement level looks good.  I dont like that he parked hsi vote on Pral but I can see Town!Lenlo doing that to spite just as easliy as I can see Scum!Lenlo doing it regardless of Pral's alignment.  Both of his abilities he's claimed make sense from either alignment imo.

 

Wifi-  Her early game pinged me. Also her certainty of Hallia's alignment is note worthy.  If shes right it could be a GOAT read from Town!Wifi but shes had the read for awhile and it could be a less experienced Wolf awkwardly placing a teammate. She could also just be Town and the awkwardness could be coming from a bit of uncertainty as to how to play her abilites.

 

Hallia- She hasnt been overly Towny or Scummy but. her nonchalant attitude towards EoD, and her progression on Kat and lack of empathy to it seems out of place.  I dont see how Town!Hallia gets to where she does on Kat and care so little.

 

Pral- I dont see where a world where Prals online like that more then once and doesnt jump in as Town.

[Zander?]

 

 

Don't use it on me.

 

 

Well I guess you could.

 

The results would be kind of lulz.

 

Probably better options.

 

this is in reference to lens rb and might be something to take note of.

 

 

Where do you even come up with this stuff?

 

 

Im sorry did I miss something, you werent referring to Lenlo and his RB claim?

 

 

 

Here's the thing...I usually get 1 or 2 good reads day 1 and when I try to tell others about them they get thrown down...like aj in like all the games we've played....and I am not talking about me being scared of him because of past experience...my very FIRST game with him I was town vig...I told everyone I thought aj was wolf NO ONE listened to me...I had 1 shot...so I shot him...HE WAS WOLF.  This has happened in virtually every game I have played...I have someone on my reads list who I think is wolfy early on and everyone else says no and they are wolf.

This is reassuring though.

 

 

I also didnt hate this response.

 

 

 

 

[Zander?]

Wifi you didnt answer my question, why are you soooooo certain Pral isnt the anonymous voter?

[Shad_]

 

lol Z and Pral bussin'

 

 

Nah you've been goofy but I still don't think it's wolfy goofy all-in-all.

 

Thoughts on this now?

 

I said it when I said it for a reason. I was getting a weird vibe at EoD that you knew Kat was going to flip town and you were pushing Pral with barely any progression because you knew the lynch probably wasn't going to flip to him and this kind of bussing is just what you do.

 

Like, we all know Pral likes to bus so you two would have zero qualms about going at each other.

 

I still think it looks awful in isolation, frankly. In the big picture of your game here, I think you've shown a range of interest, general paranoia, and willingness to adapt on players you aren't actively tunneling that is appropriate for your town game--something you've struggled to replicate as a wolf lately but not in your earlier wolf games.  You've said things that resonated with me, like your comments on Wifi on p60.  You've also said things that sketched me the hell out, like your initial case on Wifi and your issue comprehending my opinion on potential Z/Wifi bussing.

 

If you're a wolf you got your WIM back.  I want to think you're just a villager who made a good read at EoD.

 

In fact the more I think about what your wolf game used to look like the more I think I'm not seeing that either.  Like when Wifi initially responded to your case on her with a pretty lengthy rebuttal, I think the old wolf!Z would have tore it to shreds.  In this game you appeared to chew on it for a while.

 

You're probably just a villager.

 

I wonder if spending four long nights beating myself up trying to figure out which of five villagers was not a villager has temporarily shattered my ability to drop a confident read on anybody.

[Shad_]

 

 

 

Don't use it on me.

 

 

Well I guess you could.

 

The results would be kind of lulz.

 

Probably better options.

 

this is in reference to lens rb and might be something to take note of.

 

 

Where do you even come up with this stuff?

 

 

Im sorry did I miss something, you werent referring to Lenlo and his RB claim?

 

Look at the last few posts before mine. We were discussing Wifi's 1x ability.

[Shad_]

Yeah I need to chill out and just accept you as a villager.

[Shad_]

Ooo a read list. Colors weren't what I expected at a glance.

[Cory Caboose]

Well i reread EoD and this is kinda where im at,

 

Tinker- Claim and subsequent dl extension and way more invested then his last game where he was Scum.  His vote bothers me the least on the Kat train.

 

Crusher- I have very little Meta here. His EoD seemed ok irt to his Kat progression.  A Pral Scum flip would make me feel better about him.

 

Shad- Pinged me early on.  His catchup made me feel better about him.  EoD a little sketchy. 

 

Cory- I can see a world where the lynch on Kat could come from either alignment. I can see Town!Cory seeing its like little over an hour out and try to get things going.  I can also see a world where Scum!Cory was just trying to get an ML.

 

Lenlo- Involvement level looks good.  I dont like that he parked hsi vote on Pral but I can see Town!Lenlo doing that to spite just as easliy as I can see Scum!Lenlo doing it regardless of Pral's alignment.  Both of his abilities he's claimed make sense from either alignment imo.

 

Wifi-  Her early game pinged me. Also her certainty of Hallia's alignment is note worthy.  If shes right it could be a GOAT read from Town!Wifi but shes had the read for awhile and it could be a less experienced Wolf awkwardly placing a teammate. She could also just be Town and the awkwardness could be coming from a bit of uncertainty as to how to play her abilites.

 

Hallia- She hasnt been overly Towny or Scummy but. her nonchalant attitude towards EoD, and her progression on Kat and lack of empathy to it seems out of place.  I dont see how Town!Hallia gets to where she does on Kat and care so little.

 

Pral- I dont see where a world where Prals online like that more then once and doesnt jump in as Town.

 

I don't hate this at all

[Shad_]

 

 

lol Z and Pral bussin'

BOOSTERS ENGAGED, SPEEDING TOWARDS SUPER PREEMPTIVE CONCLUSIONS

 

 

I can see a world where Town!Shad would say this whether he was actually thinking it or not cause on the chance it is this would be a strong clear and good cred post game.

 

If Pral is a Wolf your Wolfy equity increases a fair bit.

 

If I made that post as a wolf I would be soooooooo proud of myself.

 

I think it comes from a zone of my brain that I fail to fake my way into, but maybe some day.

[Shad_]

I'll be keeping current but probably not digging in again until D2 starts if I'm still alive.  I had like zero down time between the end of Disney and the start of this game.  I need a night to piss off and play video games.  <_<