[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

i think cass is town

 

[unvote]

What changed?

 

me. i'm giving less weight to her reaching (in my estimation) to make reads, and i now understand that she didn't have meta on wifi.

 

 

You remember that time that guy called out Cass for backtracking?

 

apples and oranges mate.

[Kaylee]

I've got a headache. Will be here for another hour then out for the night. Love you all

[Sooh]

 

Just promise that you'll read my posts and Darthe's posts and not discount that you could also be wrong about things.

 

I don't think anything good comes out of reading Darthe's post, but you're of course entitled to your opinion.  

 

Lol well I wanted to include him

[Sili Quirrels]

 

hallia are you voting me because i don't like the people you like in the context of this game?

No, I think your tone is totally on point for tour being scum. Nyn and I both feel off about you. I'll let her explain herself.

 

my tones totally normal though. i don't get it.

 

admittedly it might be a bit different because i got distracted with trying to explain my read of cass, but i'm me.

[Sili Quirrels]

it's hard to confuse me with someone else.

[Hallia]

I'm not confusing you with anyone.

[Zander?]

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

 

Correct me if im wrong but last game didnt it take you quite awhile to get early reads???

 

You were Town there as well iirc.

[Sooh]

it's hard to confuse me with someone else.

Truer words have never been spoken

[Zander?]

 

 

 

i think cass is town

 

[unvote]

What changed?

 

me. i'm giving less weight to her reaching (in my estimation) to make reads, and i now understand that she didn't have meta on wifi.

 

You've been harping on nothing but that for at least 25 pages this game, and then you drop it just like that? (will read the rest of the pages to look for natural development, but oh boy this is sketchy.

 

 

it kinda is.

[Sili Quirrels]

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

uh, how have i defended tinker by giving him a town read? and any villager can read me town just as easily as a wolf. it depends on whether you believe their reads are genuine i think.

 

honestly i don't even remember why tinker is town reading me. i believe he was with me in arguing about the absurdity of believer's reads though, although believer was totally off his rockers so he seemed totally in the right.

[Sooh]

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

 

Correct me if im wrong but last game didnt it take you quite awhile to get early reads???

 

You were Town there as well iirc.

 

Define "quite a while". This game has been going on for a couple of days without me, and I've had the luxury of coming in late and being able to read a large chunk of the game in one sitting. That helps me, because I'm not consumed with the now. I can see thoughts forming much more easily when I get to read a larger portion of someone's thoughts. I tend to do better with my reads as a replacement in games or like now, coming in late.

[Nynaeve]

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

 

It crossed my mind too. Hard to say . But this type of game also has a 50% chance of having a SK..... just sayin'.

[Nynaeve]

 

hallia are you voting me because i don't like the people you like in the context of this game?

No, I think your tone is totally on point for tour being scum. Nyn and I both feel off about you. I'll let her explain herself.

 

 

He smells funny

[Zander?]

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

Alright then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

Alright then.

 

Actually not alright then.

 

Why would you be town reading me? The way I've acted/posted so far has been nothing like what you've seen me before. It's not even like my private personality, which you should know.

 

Why is it not wierd that I'm being so over the top here?

I don't even think you've mentioned it so far.

 

 

Shad called this out first in the QT

 

And even tho Im not as sold on him being Town, as Shad said...this is pretty villagerey. 

[Sooh]

 

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

uh, how have i defended tinker by giving him a town read? and any villager can read me town just as easily as a wolf. it depends on whether you believe their reads are genuine i think.

 

honestly i don't even remember why tinker is town reading me. i believe he was with me in arguing about the absurdity of believer's reads though, although believer was totally off his rockers so he seemed totally in the right.

 

I would go back and find examples of places where I feel you two have been oddly in tune with one another while simultaneously off key with the rest of the thread, except I've just read the majority of this thread and I really don't feel like doing it again. At least not right now. Possibly later. I'll consider it.

[Zander?]

 

 

I AM CAUGHT UP!

*applause*

 

Don't forget to catch your breath. :)

 

Lol

 

It wasn't the worst.

 

I guess our vote is still on you.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

 

If Sooh is Scum, you think she's Scum with SIli???

[Sooh]

 

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

 

It crossed my mind too. Hard to say . But this type of game also has a 50% chance of having a SK..... just sayin'.

 

Good point. Do you agree with my assessment that they seem to be in agreement a lot while disagreeing with ~everyone else?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

i think cass is town

 

[unvote]

What changed?

 

me. i'm giving less weight to her reaching (in my estimation) to make reads, and i now understand that she didn't have meta on wifi.

 

You've been harping on nothing but that for at least 25 pages this game, and then you drop it just like that? (will read the rest of the pages to look for natural development, but oh boy this is sketchy.

 

 

it kinda is.

 

you should know as well as i, going after someone for flipping a read early game is incredibly scummy. it's taking an irregularity, something that is usually null, dismissing why the person changed their mind, and pushing them for it because they can.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

I AM CAUGHT UP!

*applause*

 

Don't forget to catch your breath. :)

 

Lol

 

It wasn't the worst.

 

I guess our vote is still on you.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

 

If Sooh is Scum, you think she's Scum with SIli???

 

uh?

 

First of all, who is this for? And, was that a thought that crossed your mind?

[Zander?]

1. Shander the DragonHawk (Shad_/Zander) - slight town - Has been investigating the "conversations" that have been happening ITT and Making comments on said investigations

2. Nynlia (Hallia/Nynaeve) - null - slight town - most posts are joke posts but there are some tangible posts in there along with a good reads list from hallia, though I still don't get why no one gets me, I'm town ofc. 

3. Sili Quirrels - null - slight town - good dissemination of dice/believers conversation and interaction with cass.

4. Katiora  - null - not enough to go on, imo.

5. Cass - null - slight town - interaction with Sili and questioning of other players.

6. Andrej - null - very slightly town - He's being very logical which could make him town or scum.  I am going to give him the botd, for now.

7. Believer - null - slightly scummy - I know it might seem hypocritical cause I was pushing for Andrej's lynch but I had what I thought was absolute reasons for it imo, anyway He calls like 3 people scum, 2 without reasons and the 3rd with sketchy reasons

8. Darooh (Darthe/Sooh) - null - not enough info

9. Tiinker - null to slightly town - seriously questions cass and believer on their reasons for their cases against people.

10. Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

11. Lenlo - null - not enough info

12. Celeste - null - very slightly town - puts out there that she is a jokester (my word) in the joke phase of d1 and to not take it too seriously. I still don't know where to put her yet but leaning to very slightly town.

13. dicetosser1 -  null - slightly town - questions believers case on celeste and helping people out ITT

 

DISCLAIMER: this reads list WILL CHANGE...heck it might have already changed idk It took me so long to do it.  anyway just giving you fair warning.

 

Lily made this same type of self read last game that I called her out on and she was a Wolf...

 

Just sayin'

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

uh, how have i defended tinker by giving him a town read? and any villager can read me town just as easily as a wolf. it depends on whether you believe their reads are genuine i think.

 

honestly i don't even remember why tinker is town reading me. i believe he was with me in arguing about the absurdity of believer's reads though, although believer was totally off his rockers so he seemed totally in the right.

 

I would go back and find examples of places where I feel you two have been oddly in tune with one another while simultaneously off key with the rest of the thread, except I've just read the majority of this thread and I really don't feel like doing it again. At least not right now. Possibly later. I'll consider it.

 

well this has nothing to do with me, but yes, if you're town and you're seeing something it does sound like it's entirely too openly tied to be w/w. at worst a third party's pov it's v/w or v/v.

[Sooh]

 

1. Shander the DragonHawk (Shad_/Zander) - slight town - Has been investigating the "conversations" that have been happening ITT and Making comments on said investigations

2. Nynlia (Hallia/Nynaeve) - null - slight town - most posts are joke posts but there are some tangible posts in there along with a good reads list from hallia, though I still don't get why no one gets me, I'm town ofc. 

3. Sili Quirrels - null - slight town - good dissemination of dice/believers conversation and interaction with cass.

4. Katiora  - null - not enough to go on, imo.

5. Cass - null - slight town - interaction with Sili and questioning of other players.

6. Andrej - null - very slightly town - He's being very logical which could make him town or scum.  I am going to give him the botd, for now.

7. Believer - null - slightly scummy - I know it might seem hypocritical cause I was pushing for Andrej's lynch but I had what I thought was absolute reasons for it imo, anyway He calls like 3 people scum, 2 without reasons and the 3rd with sketchy reasons

8. Darooh (Darthe/Sooh) - null - not enough info

9. Tiinker - null to slightly town - seriously questions cass and believer on their reasons for their cases against people.

10. Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

11. Lenlo - null - not enough info

12. Celeste - null - very slightly town - puts out there that she is a jokester (my word) in the joke phase of d1 and to not take it too seriously. I still don't know where to put her yet but leaning to very slightly town.

13. dicetosser1 -  null - slightly town - questions believers case on celeste and helping people out ITT

 

DISCLAIMER: this reads list WILL CHANGE...heck it might have already changed idk It took me so long to do it.  anyway just giving you fair warning.

 

Lily made this same type of self read last game that I called her out on and she was a Wolf...

 

Just sayin'

 

Lily?

 

This is literally how WIFI has always made her reads.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

Alright then.

 

Actually not alright then.

 

Why would you be town reading me? The way I've acted/posted so far has been nothing like what you've seen me before. It's not even like my private personality, which you should know.

 

Why is it not wierd that I'm being so over the top here?

I don't even think you've mentioned it so far.

 

Having a hard time responding to this question currently.

 

Alright, I'll try. I don't necessarily think your reads have been the best this game. I think you've prematurely called both Celeste and Dice scum, BUT I can see WHY you made those conclusions sorta, and it's not uncommon for either of them to be scum read for the current behavior they have shown this game. 

 

I know their meta, and while I'm on the fence on both and haven't mentioned them much (kinda want my other head's input) I don't think either of them are outside their regular town meta. I'll get back to you on them. 

 

So, that's why I'm currently town reading you.

 

 

What current behavior of Dice is indicative of his Scum game?

[Nynaeve]

 

 

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

 

It crossed my mind too. Hard to say . But this type of game also has a 50% chance of having a SK..... just sayin'.

 

Good point. Do you agree with my assessment that they seem to be in agreement a lot while disagreeing with ~everyone else?

 

 

Off the top of my head? Both were zooming onto Cass and both were going at her irt her suspicion on Wildfire. Silli was painting it as someone going at a weak player but said he hasn't even tried to read her. Where's Tiink was town reading Wildfire. Felt like they were having some similar stances so I did wonder the same thing you brought up, basically.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

 

It crossed my mind too. Hard to say . But this type of game also has a 50% chance of having a SK..... just sayin'.

 

Good point. Do you agree with my assessment that they seem to be in agreement a lot while disagreeing with ~everyone else?

 

 

Off the top of my head? Both were zooming onto Cass and both were going at her irt her suspicion on Wildfire. Silli was painting it as someone going at a weak player but said he hasn't even tried to read her. Where's Tiink was town reading Wildfire. Felt like they were having some similar stances so I did wonder the same thing you brought up, basically.

 

to clarify i have read her since then. it was just irrelevant to my read of cass.