[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Sili Quirrels]

oh right, and hallia thought there was something wrong with me as well, but idk what it was.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

[Zander?]

 

 

I've literally just been F5ing when I get a few seconds and reading the last two or three posts so I'm missing most of what's been said over the past few pages, but Sooh could be a villager.

 

Should I add Sooh to the list with Shad only reads with Penny???

 

Probably, but take Penny off of it. I don't pretend to read her well. I just usually think she's a villager and you usually think she's a wolf so I have a higher % success rate.

 

I'll have a better feel for Sooh when I have time to read proper, just got a positive first impression.

 

 

Did you just math at me????

[Hallia]

[unvote]

[v] Sili [/v]

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I AM CAUGHT UP!

*applause*

 

Don't forget to catch your breath. :)

 

Lol

 

It wasn't the worst.

 

I guess our vote is still on you.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

did you seriously just vote me for something i do every game?

 

when me changing my mind about cass isn't even especially convenient from a wolf's pov?

 

Yup. That ONE thing is exactly why I voted you.

 

No, I voted you because of your feelings about Cass' post, your subsequent failing to form any kind of convincing argument as to why your feelings were valid and your weird coupling with Tiink. I was going to vote you long before your hard unvote.

 

 

uhuh.

 

i don't buy it.

 

you're probably a wolf.

 

[v]doorah[/v]

 

You don't "buy" what?

 

 

 

your read of me.

 

you don't get my interpretation of cass' posts, but i clearly tried to illustrate how i came to my conclusion so you can't fault me for lack of effort. and this all started for me when you call my changing my mind sketch, which it really isn't, so you changed why you were voting me.

 

really none of the reasons you present mean i'm a wolf to a rational observer. i voted cass at the start of the game (which was page 20, but it was my first read), and it wasn't a very developed case which i admitted like several times during my discussion with zander, so the fact i couldn't communicate why effectively (for you) probably only means that it was a weak read. And you have people like aj saying the whole thing was pretty typical silli so it's difficult to see you voting me without some measure of doubt.

 

actually considering you know me, it's difficult to see you as town ever voting me for having a weak early game read and going on about it for a while, even if i wasn't actually going on about it but rather explaining the read most of the time.

 

I'm not faulting you for lack of effort. You've clearly made an abundance of effort trying to explain your view, but to me (and I believe to others) it has seemed like you've been grasping at straws.

 

It has literally never been difficult to see that it's possible for townies to be wrong in mafia. I don't believe I am though. 

 

You're welcome to change my mind. I have read through this game once within the last couple of hours, so I can't say I'm unfallable, but to my recollection you haven't made very many reads outside of Cass? Could you give me an overview of where your mind is at right now? Our vote isn't set in stone. If Darthe disagrees with me he'll move it. (note to Darthe: Remember to unvote!)

[Zander?]

i think cass is town

 

[unvote]

 

...why???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sili, pls explain your "wolf trying to read correctly" comment wrt me giving AJ's post Towny points there.

 

Where do you stand on AJ right now?

 

FYI I'm not reading him either way, nor was that post hard-pushing anyone anywhere. It was me voicing the vibes I picked up on skim at work (ie. Gerrrofff me if you're not a Wolf. I'll re-look at everything when I get home).

 

What makes Wi-Fi a weak player?

Do you have alignment meta on her?

Why is questioning her reacting badly to pressure a bad thing?

Have you gone back and looked/got thoughts on her AJ stance?

 

answered about aj a while ago. you should have read that i think.

 

wifi's new

 

it's bad because it's easy lol

 

i'm not trying to read wifi at the moment.

 

 

Yey! Answers!

Why aren't you trying to read WiFi?

It's sus that you vote me for comments about her play if you haven't analysed her play yourself. Being new doesn't mean you shouldn't be pressured by players who find your actions odd. 

 

WRT answers about AJ? Went back to ISO in case I missed something and these were all I could find. 

 

 

and giving aj towny points for being logical which he might do as either allignment but probably as a wolf more in my personal opinion (but anyway) when 4 people are voting him? could easily be a wolf trying to read correctly or a wolf protecting a pal, though i'd lean toward the former for now.

 

i want to clarify what i said about aj.

 

aj seems a little more aggressive than he was as a wolf here. some of his posts have some bite.

 

but it's just a little. and i'm still making up my mind.

 

 

 

I did comment/ask questions about this and you never answered me.

 

Basically, main sticking points to the first point:

- I see no logical Wolf motive and can't follow why I should be Wolfy for giving his post towny points, especially if you're leaning towards having him as Town. IMO 'Trying to read correctly' doesn't seem a Wolfy thing.

- It could be equally plausible that a wolf protects their pal when there's 4 people voting him by shifting votes onto someone else and maintains distance from them by giving a hedgey read (ie you could be sus);

- Contradiction between what you state is your opinion of AJ's play (more wolfy when being logical), and how you ultimately lean him in your post.

 

The last process was explained logically with your clarification post so is discarded tinfoil. I think essentially we had a similar thought process wrt AJ (leaning certain posts towards more-likely Town, being ultimately undecided on his role). Which means you could equally be hedging or Town us are legit unsure of AJ and each other and dancing in circles. 

 

Your push of me/responses leaning heavily on my earliest game impressions, commenting on nothing else and not seeming interested in actually trying to figure me out are probably the things which tilt me out the most.

 

 

some wolves like to be right. they feel it gives them credit. but my main take away was that those reads don't seem legit coming from you. in my opinion at any rate.

cass you give aj a town read. and the only justification you present is that you could follow his logic.

and to clarify, i didn't see aj being 'logical' i'm just taking your word for it. my read of aj is separate from yours, and so there's no contradiction here. i'm just not curious enough about wifi or aj to investigate further.

 

 

it's sus that you vote me for comments about her play if you haven't analysed her play yourself.

 

 if i investigate wifi maybe i find something suspicious about wifi, but regardless of my findings the reason you gave for your read was weak, certainly in the context of wifi's meta.

 

 

Being new doesn't mean you shouldn't be pressured by players who find your actions odd.

 

well at the time i thought you had meta on wifi because i thought you were an active player on whatever site wifi learned from.

 

i'm reluctant to call this track irrelevant now, but it probably is wrt your alignment.

 

 

 

Sili, that was my second post. I said I kinda liked AJ. I saw thought, deliberation and logic in the post and gave it (the post) Towny points. It does not a be all and end all on AJ make. IIRC I even mentioned that I didn't necessarily agree with his view. Objectively though, players who are working to figure others out are more likely to be Town (Thank you Correh and players of WoW). If AJ continues posts like that, I'll continue giving those posts Towny points. 

 

Ok for the contradiction, that was under probable-tinfoil-due-to-crazy-lady-versus-Sili anyway. 

 

IMO there's a decent enough chance that our personalities are spinning each other in circles here that I'm going to rely on other's experience to help me out with you for now. But as before, if you continue to base a wolf read of me on that post without further consideration of my actions since then, your reluctance to look further gets negative points on my sheet.

 

You don't have to investigate WiFi or AJ further. Pick anyone other than me and give opinions/thoughts on their posts. Pick any post of mine on anybody but the people mentioned in that first game-post and think about/give points on that.

 

Find something else besides that one post that interests you in the game and talk about it.

 

 

 

Re: Cass/Sili (with an added side of Tiink)

 

I found Cass' first reads post to be natural and open for that time of the game. She had thoughts on SOME players and put them out there. She didn't feel the need to include everyone, which for me is a good sign. Mafia sometimes find it hard to fake reads on everyone in a game, perhaps especially their partners, and they will put everyone in a reads list with "null" stamped next to them (Re: Tiink's list). 

 

Her play this game also reminds me of the last game I played with her when she was town, so I'm reading her town.

 

 

Does Cass normally ask tons of questions as Town or Scum or either?

[Believer]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

[Sili Quirrels]

you guys are confusing me. half of you i don't know what your problems are. i'd bet sooh is a wolf. and darthe is in his wolf range anyway.

 

but that said, i don't like it that so many people seem very opportunistic to me. cass is the only one i really buy having a wolf read of me.

 

i probably need to chill lol. i'll abscond.

 

you guys have my reads, best as i can make them. and you're not about to say anything i can respond to anyway.

[Zander?]

 

Ok who on his train are you gals sussing?

 

Id never hurt you!!!

 

<3 <3 <3

 

 

It's the formation of the train itself that was bugging me (and I think Hallia as well). Because we're not really considering B as a lynch option today. I couldn't even remember who was on the actual train, it was more a off the cuff impression I shared with her that she felt the need to share ITT lol  (Bad Halli!). This is why earlier Halli made an unofficial VC bump post. I was on my phone and I asked her to look up who was on the train. But my comment was more general, irt a train forming on Believer more so than who's on the actual train. If that makes sense.

 

As it were, I'd like to see what AJ has to say about what I asked him earlier (irt moving away from Tiinker to Believer without applying any pressure on Tiink or the rest of the people on his train, like he said he would). Dice I feel might just be exercising his right to be stubborn. Sooh/Darthe... hard to say. Sooh is posting more now so we'll see. Though it's most likely was Darthe that cast the vote. I'll  look up his reasoning when I get a chance.

 

 

Nynalia prolly Town.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

 

because you're playing very badly. i think there are too many distractions right now, and playing badly doesn't make you a wolf anyway, but your bad reads are a weakness.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

Dislike the "I can not be wrong" attitude, but if that's where you're at I can't really change that. Just promise that you'll read my posts and Darthe's posts and not discount that you could also be wrong about things.

 

 

Btw, who are your scums now?

Dice, Celeste, Sili, Myself? 3 out of those 4? Others?

[Zander?]

 

 

Ok who on his train are you gals sussing?

 

 

Personally, Darooh was sketching me out.  Glad Sooh is posting.  The rest I'll keep to myself for the time being for raisins.

 

 

 

@Hallia

 

You're fun to play with. +1

D'aw  You are as well, I'm glad you joined us!  I hope you come back too.  ^.^'

 

I try to remember that in the end, it's a game, and we are meant to have fun.  

 

Zander sometimes gets into the passion of the game but he's a dollface too.

 

I'll be sad if you're scum, please don't be.

 

I'm not.

 

 

 

 

Nobody is talking to me

 

I suppose that's for the lack of topics that I have been involved in. 

 

I have two hot reads upon page 30, and those are:

 

Wifi: TOWN

 

Nynlia: TOWN

 

Remains to be seen if my other head agrees.

 

I'll talk to you, what do you want to talk about?

 

I dunno. The weather?

 

Just reading up atm. 

 

Current feels around p30 is

 

Town:

Wifi

Nynlia

 

Believer

Shander

Cass

 

Buncha nulls

 

Sili

Tiinker

 

I don't hate this list!  Except where Wifi is.

 

 

 

 

 

Nobody is talking to me

 

I suppose that's for the lack of topics that I have been involved in. 

 

I have two hot reads upon page 30, and those are:

 

Wifi: TOWN

 

Nynlia: TOWN

 

Remains to be seen if my other head agrees.

 

Why is Wifi town?

 

Post #496

 

and subsequent "but joke phase was over!"

 

I don't think these things make her town.  Lord knows I've given up trying to understand the logics though.  

 

 

Wifi is gonna be hard to figure out till we can compare some Town/Scum games.

 

Whats your gals read on Darooh atp?

[Believer]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

 

because you're playing very badly. i think there are too many distractions right now, and playing badly doesn't make you a wolf anyway, but your bad reads are a weakness.

 

I don't agree, obviously, but feel free to carry that as a case against me.

 

So that I get what I deserve.

[Kaylee]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Celeste (1): Lenlo

Believer (2): Andrej, Dice

Cass (1): Tiink

Darooh (4): Wildfire, Celeste, Shander, Sili

Sili (4): Cass, Believer, Darooh, Nynlia

 

Not Voting (1): Katiora

 

Darooh and Sili are at L-3

 

It takes 7 to lynch.Deadline for Day 1 is 8:00 AM PDT/11:00 AM EDT on Friday, 8/19/16.

[Hallia]

Giving them some time, now that Sooh is here. What's coming out of her I don't hate.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

i think cass is town

 

[unvote]

 

...why???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sili, pls explain your "wolf trying to read correctly" comment wrt me giving AJ's post Towny points there.

 

Where do you stand on AJ right now?

 

FYI I'm not reading him either way, nor was that post hard-pushing anyone anywhere. It was me voicing the vibes I picked up on skim at work (ie. Gerrrofff me if you're not a Wolf. I'll re-look at everything when I get home).

 

What makes Wi-Fi a weak player?

Do you have alignment meta on her?

Why is questioning her reacting badly to pressure a bad thing?

Have you gone back and looked/got thoughts on her AJ stance?

 

answered about aj a while ago. you should have read that i think.

 

wifi's new

 

it's bad because it's easy lol

 

i'm not trying to read wifi at the moment.

 

 

Yey! Answers!

Why aren't you trying to read WiFi?

It's sus that you vote me for comments about her play if you haven't analysed her play yourself. Being new doesn't mean you shouldn't be pressured by players who find your actions odd. 

 

WRT answers about AJ? Went back to ISO in case I missed something and these were all I could find. 

 

 

and giving aj towny points for being logical which he might do as either allignment but probably as a wolf more in my personal opinion (but anyway) when 4 people are voting him? could easily be a wolf trying to read correctly or a wolf protecting a pal, though i'd lean toward the former for now.

 

i want to clarify what i said about aj.

 

aj seems a little more aggressive than he was as a wolf here. some of his posts have some bite.

 

but it's just a little. and i'm still making up my mind.

 

 

 

I did comment/ask questions about this and you never answered me.

 

Basically, main sticking points to the first point:

- I see no logical Wolf motive and can't follow why I should be Wolfy for giving his post towny points, especially if you're leaning towards having him as Town. IMO 'Trying to read correctly' doesn't seem a Wolfy thing.

- It could be equally plausible that a wolf protects their pal when there's 4 people voting him by shifting votes onto someone else and maintains distance from them by giving a hedgey read (ie you could be sus);

- Contradiction between what you state is your opinion of AJ's play (more wolfy when being logical), and how you ultimately lean him in your post.

 

The last process was explained logically with your clarification post so is discarded tinfoil. I think essentially we had a similar thought process wrt AJ (leaning certain posts towards more-likely Town, being ultimately undecided on his role). Which means you could equally be hedging or Town us are legit unsure of AJ and each other and dancing in circles. 

 

Your push of me/responses leaning heavily on my earliest game impressions, commenting on nothing else and not seeming interested in actually trying to figure me out are probably the things which tilt me out the most.

 

 

some wolves like to be right. they feel it gives them credit. but my main take away was that those reads don't seem legit coming from you. in my opinion at any rate.

cass you give aj a town read. and the only justification you present is that you could follow his logic.

and to clarify, i didn't see aj being 'logical' i'm just taking your word for it. my read of aj is separate from yours, and so there's no contradiction here. i'm just not curious enough about wifi or aj to investigate further.

 

 

it's sus that you vote me for comments about her play if you haven't analysed her play yourself.

 

 if i investigate wifi maybe i find something suspicious about wifi, but regardless of my findings the reason you gave for your read was weak, certainly in the context of wifi's meta.

 

 

Being new doesn't mean you shouldn't be pressured by players who find your actions odd.

 

well at the time i thought you had meta on wifi because i thought you were an active player on whatever site wifi learned from.

 

i'm reluctant to call this track irrelevant now, but it probably is wrt your alignment.

 

 

 

Sili, that was my second post. I said I kinda liked AJ. I saw thought, deliberation and logic in the post and gave it (the post) Towny points. It does not a be all and end all on AJ make. IIRC I even mentioned that I didn't necessarily agree with his view. Objectively though, players who are working to figure others out are more likely to be Town (Thank you Correh and players of WoW). If AJ continues posts like that, I'll continue giving those posts Towny points. 

 

Ok for the contradiction, that was under probable-tinfoil-due-to-crazy-lady-versus-Sili anyway. 

 

IMO there's a decent enough chance that our personalities are spinning each other in circles here that I'm going to rely on other's experience to help me out with you for now. But as before, if you continue to base a wolf read of me on that post without further consideration of my actions since then, your reluctance to look further gets negative points on my sheet.

 

You don't have to investigate WiFi or AJ further. Pick anyone other than me and give opinions/thoughts on their posts. Pick any post of mine on anybody but the people mentioned in that first game-post and think about/give points on that.

 

Find something else besides that one post that interests you in the game and talk about it.

 

 

 

Re: Cass/Sili (with an added side of Tiink)

 

I found Cass' first reads post to be natural and open for that time of the game. She had thoughts on SOME players and put them out there. She didn't feel the need to include everyone, which for me is a good sign. Mafia sometimes find it hard to fake reads on everyone in a game, perhaps especially their partners, and they will put everyone in a reads list with "null" stamped next to them (Re: Tiink's list). 

 

Her play this game also reminds me of the last game I played with her when she was town, so I'm reading her town.

 

 

 

 

Does Cass normally ask tons of questions as Town or Scum or either?

 

It has been a while since I saw her scum game. I can't tell you that without going back to old old games and I won't have time for that before this game goes to EOD.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

 

because you're playing very badly. i think there are too many distractions right now, and playing badly doesn't make you a wolf anyway, but your bad reads are a weakness.

 

I don't agree, obviously, but feel free to carry that as a case against me.

 

So that I get what I deserve.

 

it's not  a case.

 

it's just my opinion of how the thread will interact with you going forward, at least until the wolves have voting majority or sway over the thread. if they do they  may keep you alive if you're town because your attitude is very +ev for them.

[Zander?]

also tick sounds genuine, though i don't know him. He seems like a breath of fresh air, and i'm a little nervous he's a wolf who has tmi, but my intuition is that's tinfoil.

 

as i said earlier, wifi seems town, but i'm not confident.

 

aj light town i guess.

 

zander i'd guess is town. for some reason i just believe that. he's a little erratic, but when he was questioning me earlier it was so very zander.

 

lol tick

[Believer]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

Dislike the "I can not be wrong" attitude, but if that's where you're at I can't really change that. Just promise that you'll read my posts and Darthe's posts and not discount that you could also be wrong about things.

 

 

Btw, who are your scums now?

Dice, Celeste, Sili, Myself? 3 out of those 4? Others?

 

I can be wrong of course, but I really have trouble seeing that happening with you and Sili.

 

 

Sure, I'll read it again.

 

Scum reads:

 

You or Sili - Dichotomy

dicetosser1

 

Celeste - to a much lesser extent

[Nynaeve]

Just promise that you'll read my posts and Darthe's posts and not discount that you could also be wrong about things.

 

I don't think anything good comes out of reading Darthe's post, but you're of course entitled to your opinion.  

[Sili Quirrels]

hallia are you voting me because i don't like the people you like in the context of this game?

[Hallia]

[Zander?]

 

 

i think cass is town

 

[unvote]

What changed?

 

me. i'm giving less weight to her reaching (in my estimation) to make reads, and i now understand that she didn't have meta on wifi.

 

 

You remember that time that guy called out Cass for backtracking?

[Sooh]

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

[Hallia]

hallia are you voting me because i don't like the people you like in the context of this game?

No, I think your tone is totally on point for tour being scum. Nyn and I both feel off about you. I'll let her explain herself.