[Basic]Spirited Away Mafia - Game over mafia wins

[Darthe]

Cory I will never be anything but what I am. Regardless of alignment

what was wrong with wildfires reads iyo?

[Cory Caboose]

I know sweetie

[Darthe]

Wildfire, btw, prob where im going unless I shake something major out of one of you

[Clovdyx]

Until Seph clarifies some stuff, I would be really happy seeing him swing.  The scumread is fine.  His reasons are garbage, and his stance with Cory just seems really like he's trying to appease him.  I don't know if that makes them m-m or Seph just doesn't want to get on Cory's badside, but I am really not feeling him as town atp.

 

Wildfire was a really easy lynch, and I think it's probably a good sign for the people that were suspicious that didn't push (Darthe comes to mind, not sure who else but I feel there was one?)....but as far as I'm concerned, the free pass ends tomorrow.  The list was bad, and the follow up justifications were worse.

 

I'm struggling to not completely blow BFG's post about me out of proportion, but she's well out of the safe zone I had her in yesterday.  The rest of her posts to Cory looked okay and I could see them coming from her, but good lord that rubbed me the wrong way.

 

 

I dislike Kat basically turning to Cory and Hallia for approval of the lynch, but it's not vastly different from what I remember her doing with Zander in 90's music.  I think it's more of a style difference than something necessarily scummy, especially for her.  I can't justify her as a townread over five or six people though so probably near the back end of my POE.

 

Not sure what to do with Cory and Darthe.  I really, really want to destroy Cory for his justifications of Zander/Alanna - he knows both are busy and can assume they weren't going to be around much.  But I think at least some of that stems from the fact that I read all of those knowing he was wrong, and that's a bit unfair.

[Cory Caboose]

Chris you are foolin' yourself if you think BFG's a villager here.

 

The girl has a heart of gold and I admire her deeply but she's a better wolf than you, me or her herself gets credit for. She knows what we look for, she knows to do just enough to make us question because if we question we'll almost always push somewhere else.

 

Her EoD is her wolf game pure and simple. It's crystal clear.

[Hallia]

 

Cory I will never be anything but what I am. Regardless of alignment

what was wrong with wildfires reads iyo?

besides it being a blatant lie?

[Cory Caboose]

I'm contemplating making maybe the dirtiest post I have ever made in my mafia career. Chris should be 100% sure I am a villager after it, if he hasn't read through it already. It's not offensive or mean, just absolutely dirty as hell, because it's something I did in the thread that 100% clears me with no wiggle room.

 

But do I stoop to that level

[Clovdyx]

 

BFG is the wolf I let get away yesterday

God bless her heart she got out of it

Clov she really is a wolf.

 

 

Seph might be a wolf too.

 

 

 

Seph might be a wolf too.

Yes.

 

 

 

Alright I'm back and recharged. We have 100 pages to go through. We've still got AJ and Regy and Clov and we have time to flip this around and make it right.

The question I want to answer: is there ANY possibility that Sili is a wolf? I want to figure that out first

 

 

 

Okay, I got caught up to the point where I came in leaving work.  I'm not going to bother reading the past few pages for the stuff I've missed, because I'm 90% sure it's just going to make me rage and I doubt it's anything game solving.

 

clov why do i keep thinking your mafia!! 

 

I have no idea.  The big reason you gave me earlier was because you and I didn't see eye to eye on a lot of things.  I pointed out that most of the people I had expressed feeling good about were people reasonably high on your reads list.  

 

AFAICT you have yet to answer my question about what exactly we disagreed on.

 

 

 

 

 

Seph who you gonna vote today boo?

honestly I want to vote clov. This game just feels like the mafia karts game as i mentioned earlier. Clov is engaging in numerous convo's /arguments but I don't think he has really taken the lead in anything. He seems to jump in and dictate others actions for them.
you for example. HE should be one of the few who can read you well. early on he casts suspicion after someone else mentions your off but he never commits to it.
Look where he has you right now when your a lynch candidate. slightly above 3 or 4 others he would want to lynch. so if he needs to swing his vote on you it won't look as bad.
I feel like he is just avoiding making a firm decision on that subject.

I had my problems with him early game, and when I jumped back into the thread he had my head spinning and lost. Last time this happened was mafia karts... and I swore to never re evaluate until a flip so I am going to just stick with my guns here.

I want to re read clov to make sure I am remembering all this right. but he would be a top lynch for me. as that wont ever happen wildfire/bfg/aj/zalanna these are my lowest 4 atm i think

 

 

This is not something anybody that's actually paid attention to what I've said this game should basically ever think, unless he somehow takes exception to my reads evolving as new things happen.  

 

 

 

I tend to associate a more aggressive Sili with town, but very mild

 

I don't like the phrasing here either but I'm not sure if it means something

 

I feel like a villager says "Sili's aggression level is villagery" or w/e

 

And BFG saying that Sili seeming villagery for being aggressive is fine

 

But the fact that it's phrased as "I tend to associate..." feels more like she's saying she feels bound to read Sili villagery as per what she's supposed to think than it being her actual belief

 

Does that make any sense?

 

Just reading through BFG

 

 

I think this is a slightly incorrect interpretation of what she's saying here.  In context, it reads very much like a reply as to WHY she feels he's probably town (which she had already established), since Alanna had just said she hasn't gotten anything from his tone one way or another.

 

Trying to frame this post as the read, rather than reasoning, doesn't seem like a genuine attempt at figuring out what she's thinking.

 

 

fyi for people voting cory. I feel like he is more assertive as a wolf, he likes to lead the thread, or control the flow at all times, and like he said protect his team. A good example of this in 9-5 on here.
as a villager he is more often than not to observe before doing anything. I have read prolly 15 cory games, or as many as i could find and the only time I remember him trying something different he was town. and that expands to about 2 games I remember. HIs tone isn't bad this game, though it never is but he is more laid back (that is referring to him not being assertive/aggressive not the ate) 
I could be a little biased here because I always wanted to t/t with him but I am trusting my gut and I think we should go a different way.

 

 

This very well may be the worst take on somebody's meta I have ever seen.  Cory is equally likely, if not more likely, to lead as town than mafia.  Him trying to take over the thread shouldn't make you feel bad.

 

Furthermore, if you do believe that, I don't understand how you can be nearly as comfortable as you claim to be IRT Cory, since I don't think anybody can make an argument he hasn't been in control or leading (after the first day of the game, anyway).

 

 

 

 

 

BFG can you give any kind of opinion on Clov? Just based on one read I know, but I want to know what you think.

Chris owned me pretty badly the last game we played, so I'm back to null reading him till eternity.

Gun to head town. Last couple of games he's been mafia he's been more assertive (not sure that's the word I'm looking for) with his vote and when I looked back, I didn't believe his pushes regardless of the fact I quickly dropped the read. Was hoping I could read him through similar methods this game, and I don't know what to make of the fact that he hasn't pushed anyone yet, but I think it's more likely from town him since he wouldn't need to try to control the lynch.

 

 

....Did I play a different 90's Music than other people?  Because for somebody who didn't "believe my pushes", I'm pretty sure she was on Lenlo most of D1 with me and I know she was pushing Dice with me on D2.  

 

I also find it really, really unlikely she thinks it's more likely I haven't pushed anyone as town than mafia, given that I'm pretty sure one of her big reasons for suspecting me when following along in Mafia Karts was the disconnect between say and do (e.g., my arguments looked okay, but did they go anywhere?)

 

If this was the only post I've seen from her this game, I would kill her on the spot.  Had I been around, it might have actually made me vote her, ironically.

 

 

Until Seph clarifies some stuff, I would be really happy seeing him swing.  The scumread is fine.  His reasons are garbage, and his stance with Cory just seems really like he's trying to appease him.  I don't know if that makes them m-m or Seph just doesn't want to get on Cory's badside, but I am really not feeling him as town atp.

 

I'm struggling to not completely blow BFG's post about me out of proportion, but she's well out of the safe zone I had her in yesterday.  The rest of her posts to Cory looked okay and I could see them coming from her, but good lord that rubbed me the wrong way.

 

 

Oh, okay.

[Cory Caboose]

Regy
SiRReN
Chris
Andrej
Darthe

 

have to all be villagers.

 

I feel like I can probably put Sili on that list, and if I can, the game is solved if I can just clear myself.

[Clovdyx]

Dammit, I meant to the delete the post by Cory from my self quote, too.

 

Pretend it was just my comments about BFG/Seph.

[Cory Caboose]

Of the rest...
 
Sili
 
Wildfire Sedai

Katiora
Hallia
 
Seph
BFG

[Darthe]

I'm contemplating making maybe the dirtiest post I have ever made in my mafia career. Chris should be 100% sure I am a villager after it, if he hasn't read through it already. It's not offensive or mean, just absolutely dirty as hell, because it's something I did in the thread that 100% clears me with no wiggle room.

 

But do I stoop to that level

Do it

[Cory Caboose]

Clov if you want me to do it I will but it'll be like the Manhattan Project all over again and it'll take a thousand showers to get the grime off of us

[Darthe]

Chris you are foolin' yourself if you think BFG's a villager here.

 

The girl has a heart of gold and I admire her deeply but she's a better wolf than you, me or her herself gets credit for. She knows what we look for, she knows to do just enough to make us question because if we question we'll almost always push somewhere else.

 

Her EoD is her wolf game pure and simple. It's crystal clear.

Show me how, I want to see.

[Clovdyx]

Of the rest...

 

Sili

 

Wildfire Sedai

 

Katiora

Hallia

 

Seph

BFG

 

Hallia needs to be above every single person on that list, and you are giving Wildfire far too much room.  Why?

[Darthe]

 

 

Cory I will never be anything but what I am. Regardless of alignment

what was wrong with wildfires reads iyo?

besides it being a blatant lie?

Humor new, what makes it a Lew?

[Cory Caboose]

I think WiFi's confusion is legit for dawnflower related reasons but it could totally just me being fooled by something silly. She remains always in the PoE, always.

I have Hallia as a villager, just not as strong as the above list, and the fact the she's in my bottom 3 is incidental, the light greens are not really in any order

[Darthe]

Lie

[Cory Caboose]

Show me how, I want to see.

 

> shows up as top wagons

> she reverses her read on me, we talk, i implore her to put more effort into her game as a villager basically in exchange for another day phase (more or less this is what actually happened)

> she agrees, votes the Zander train quickly as it begins to take off and remove her from danger

> Zander flips town

> "Fingers crossed!" "sadface" and then she's gone

 

I know why she's gone.

[Cory Caboose]

It's sad that in Mafia your biggest strength or most exploitable weakness can be your kind heart.

[Darthe]

I can see where you're coming from. I maybe give to much weight to the moment, but I wanna see what she says

[Darthe]

It's sad that in Mafia your biggest strength or most exploitable weakness can be your kind heart.

Deff my biggest weakness

[Hallia]

 

 

 

Cory I will never be anything but what I am. Regardless of alignment

what was wrong with wildfires reads iyo?

besides it being a blatant lie?

Humor new, what makes it a Lew?

I'm assuming you meant lie. She said no was low in posting. For further back in the game that is absolutely not true, I was one of the most active people. And so:lie.

[Cory Caboose]

She's probably asleep right now

 

And she'll probably say tomorrow that she went to sleep as soon as the write-up was in

 

And she'll probably be telling the truth

 

But she would have stayed up at least a tiny bit longer as a villager. She had to know I'd know after the vote. Just a very awkward time for her to vote, she usually holds right til deadline unless she's super confident and a lot of time doesn't vote at all. She did her job: stayed alive for the day. There was no more for her to do.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Cory I will never be anything but what I am. Regardless of alignment

what was wrong with wildfires reads iyo?

besides it being a blatant lie?

Humor new, what makes it a Lew?

I'm assuming you meant lie. She said no was low in posting. For further back in the game that is absolutely not true, I was one of the most active people. And so:lie.

:/ can you give me more or is that what bothered you?