[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Lenlo]

 

 

@ darthe I really don't have anything to address about my lynch, there isn't anything there really. I understand its d1, and most of the stuff is going to be nitpicky. but most of it is peoples interpretation of my post vs its meaning. I can sit here and argue with you if you want, but I have found it to be pretty pointless. or I can try to help solve the game, so If I do get lynched I can help the town in some way.

Fair enough. I think you're windy but I'm not gonna beat this dead horse anymore. People have the thread if they need convincing

 

that was what lenlo's response should have been. ...

 

I DID! I did say that!

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

@ darthe I really don't have anything to address about my lynch, there isn't anything there really. I understand its d1, and most of the stuff is going to be nitpicky. but most of it is peoples interpretation of my post vs its meaning. I can sit here and argue with you if you want, but I have found it to be pretty pointless. or I can try to help solve the game, so If I do get lynched I can help the town in some way.

Fair enough. I think you're windy but I'm not gonna beat this dead horse anymore. People have the thread if they need convincing

 

that was what lenlo's response should have been. ...

 

I DID! I did say that!

 

 

pretty sure you also complained that my read wasn't detailed enough.

[wish-tree]

also, in terms of talent, Stork's right, I'm not too great at mafia

 

I can't believe I had seph as a town read ayyy lmao lolme

[Zander?]

 

 

I´m here. 

 

@ Hallia - I have not been here because it took me a long time to catch up. The only reason I was able to do it at all is that I don´t work today. 

 

A lot of people have me as a possible lynch candidate so I will try to explain my game so far.

 

* I had an idea of how Katiora played as mafia but that was wrong. It was a mistake.

* I said I could just follow BFG. I actually never did so but that comment was based on 

 a) She was my strongest townread.

 b) I will not be able to be active/take notes in a game like this.

 c) And a little bit of a joke. I don´t think I have ever just blindly followed anyone in a game where I haven´t got a cop result. 

* What more? I´m not her much because it´s a too active game for me. I will not be able to be very active and it will be more gut feelings based on posts that I remember. I have already forgotten about the first posts I read today.

 

 

So my impressions:

 

Wish - I only remember one game that I have played with her. Maybe there have been more and maybe I have read some game that she played but I don´t remember that. Anyway, we were mafia together in that game. She posted a lot of meaningless stuff. A lot of lols and smileys and just strange out of the blue stuff. I don´t understand her here either, and I think that her analysis of the early questions is really wrong (at least about me), but she seems more involved. She is commenting on things that happens. So my one and only experience with her before tells me she is town. But I still don´t understand her.

 

Clov - I find it easy to understand his posts because he is logical. Still, his vote on me is wrong. I could be me, since I probably haven´t explained myself any good, but it also looks like an "easy" vote. I don´t usually see Clov doing these but as I said, it could just be me playing really bad. 

 

Laine - like her.

 

BFG - have not been as active as in the start. I hope she will be. Still town though.

 

Hally - townie feeling

 

Darthe - ??? He is certainly choosing a few things to point to and I don´t know if it is because it´s the only things he think is important to focus on or if he chooses to not focus on other things on purpose. 

 

I´ll continue soon.

 

So let me get this straight YOURE calling BFG out for ativity...yes I know youre Town reading her but still  shes one of the most active players in the game.

 

Second of all YOURE calling out Clov for an easy vote

 

I hope you can see the issue taken with the reasoning her irt you.

 

 

BFG had been less active compared to how she started. She was still active.

 

Second - yes.

 

 

You gotta know how awful this looks....

 

Are you going for TWTBAW....????

[Sili Quirrels]

we can be friends lenlo i guess. idk.

[Darthe]

 

I'm not down on the nina train atm. Would be if these trains werent so even without any other real options being discussed.

Ok what is your read on Nina and why?

Slightly wolfy 40 pages ago, little of note since then

[wish-tree]

Town thinks the lead wagon since irl d1 of the game is a wolf.

 

Lolme

 

that's partially another reason, irt wagonomics

[Zander?]

 

 

Nina this game

 

Zander - I still think he is mafia. It´s based on earlier stuff but I have not seen anything that makes him look better. It´s also worth nothing that Dice and Laine doesn´t have him as town. They know him well.

 

Dice - I like his posts. 

 

Lenlo - could vote him.

 

Lily - same as before. A very small +.

 

seph - he claimed vt when being confronted. Why? There weren´t a lot of votes on him and few people was arguing with him. I need to figure out what I think about that early reveal.

 

Who have I forgotten. Need to check the op.

 

Scum!Nina in GB

 

@ Zander

 

Why would I change my view of you when I think you are mafia? I found one thing that you have done that I don´t think you would do as town and in my eyes it makes you mafia. For what it´s worth, my view on you have changed but not for the better. I will not let go just because you don´t think I have "developed" my read on you. I think you are mafia. That´s it!

 

And to people that are accusing RTE of just following other players. I will not defend RTE, because I have not re-read his posts. But I will defend the right to agree with others. How on earth would we ever achieve a lynch if people didn´t agree with each other? Sure, mafia could try to hide among popular oppinions (and maybe that is what he is doing, what do I know?) but in this case, if Zander is mafia, then mafia will only use that as an excuse to get people not to vote him. Since I have games where I disappear for a while I know what it´s like to show up, realise that I agree with others, post that and then people say that I´m just following others. That doesn´t have to be wrong. 

 

 

Ah. It was my best mafia game in a very long time. I´m having a hard time in this game but I don´t think I would just copy myself if I was mafia in this game. :D

 

 

People please talk to me about this....

[Darthe]

 

 

 

oh wait

 

did you just admit to being mafia with Zander?

 

are you sussing me for "knowing your alignment"

 

WHAT LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

this is the wolfiest damn post I have ever seen

How??

the bolded

I didnt get it but I also dont get why its wolfy.

[seph]

This is lenlos exact quote

 

As I said, I think your problem put into words is this:

Seph says Sili is his wolfiest read - OK

Seph has Sili as better then Null - Again, this is OK. It works.

Seph votes Zander - NOT OK

 

Not ok because Zander is not his wolfiest read. If Zander is below "Better then Null" then that means Sili is not his wolfiest read. Ergo he lied OR changed his mind. So Z, find posts where Seph talks about you and show us how he was reading you during those quotes.

err the words are messed up now...
Ok so wish, since you didn't pay attention to my iso. the above lenlo is talking about my vote on zander, and a little bit about my post on sili, but it has nothing to do with the contradiction i posted. The reason zander got points is because the contradiction confused him, though that wasn't his case at the beginning. they are 2 entirely seperate things

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Niniel (4) - Hallia, Zander, Katiora, Lenlo

Seph (4) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov

Wistork (2) - Sili, Seph

 

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth, 

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. 

 

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST
 

[seph]

 

im sticking with my gut here, I just don't believe you

Does what I said not make sense?

 

[v] Seph [/v]

 

not from what you posted.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

I'm not down on the nina train atm. Would be if these trains werent so even without any other real options being discussed.

What other options would you like?? If you have a better candidate please put them forward with supporting evidence... I"m always open for others opinions here...

Its not a matter of who, I just dont think it bodes well when we only have two traind d1

 

We've had more... it's nearly deadline... if people don't start consolidating then it's not going to matter... And some of the votes some people want just make no sense. The Liz vote... I don't get... not saying I don't think she's scummy... but she's not scummy enough to vote right now without more. The Dice vote... ehhhhh it makes more sense than the Liz one lol But seriously we're like almost 4 hours to EoD gotta get something going

Why is anyone sussing Kat again?

 

Especially those who have played with her.

Kinda a moot post you quoted, but I agree with the general premise of yours

[Zander?]

zander has more posts than i do <3

 

My Townyness will not be denied no matter the cost.

[wish-tree]

I had Niniel as pretty wolfy too especially with her I think wistork is town but wish is just really weird idk lol and her BFG comment is a wolf with Zander, who has been spewed six ways to sunday by Zander

 

like BFG/Zander never w/w

 

thing is Zander/Niniel never w/w either

 

and Zander's wolfier 

[Zander?]

 

 

So I went ahead and iso'd Niniel.

 

 

Her post #428 she admits to wanting to sheep which feels like she not wanting to make her own reads. She further agrees with the opinions of others without making her own as yet. I know she's responded to people questioning this (#434 - response to BFG), but it doesn't change the original feel.

 

She confuses someone somewhere. I've read this but I didn't follow at all. It's odd. She wasn't very active so she could have lost track of her thoughts. She could also have lost track of her thoughts. The former as town. The latter as scum. Not alignment indicative to me.

 

She further replied to the first mentioned post in #631... and then starts sounding repetitive in #655 about BFG. She sounds like she's accusing - which I don't like 'cause there's so little posts before that where she's actually posting her own opinion and her own thoughts.

 

I like her post #1048. She starts saying what she thinks. She later shares her thoughts on everyone - but was it before or after people started voting her?

 

 

 

Not much to iso. And I'm actually still uncertain about her. If I have to place her on a spectrum she'd be more red than green - only because I think she only started being active or actively sharing her thoughts after people starting saying she was scummy. Am I wrong?

 

 

I agree... not much there for her. She comes in... blasts a few people, but doesn't really give reasons. Likes a few people, doesn't really give reasons. Accuses others of not contributing... then doesn't contribute lol

 

I see nothing town in her posts. And then she posts something like.. "this game don't expect big TownNini posts." And to me that's a scum out if I ever saw one. 

 

I mean: 

 

@ninel I need to see things from you. Ive seen no towntina that i know so well yet. you havent been very active so i was giving time but u need to show why i shouldnt be voting you tomorrow

 

I´m not sure I will be able to show you any ordinary townNini. I will just have to do the best I can in this game. Don´t expect anything big from me. 

 

 

@ninel I need to see things from you. Ive seen no towntina that i know so well yet. you havent been very active so i was giving time but u need to show why i shouldnt be voting you tomorrow

 

I´m not sure I will be able to show you any ordinary townNini. I will just have to do the best I can in this game. Don´t expect anything big from me. 

 

 

 

Or I could be telling the truth. 

 

 

Or you could just be lying....lol

[seph]

 

Town thinks the lead wagon since irl d1 of the game is a wolf.

 

Lolme

 

that's partially another reason, irt wagonomics

 

how nice to casually add points as there mentioned lol. please explain the wagonomics to me, not darthe, you.

 

 

also, in terms of talent, Stork's right, I'm not too great at mafia

 

I can't believe I had seph as a town read ayyy lmao lolme

fake

also, in terms of talent, Stork's right, I'm not too great at mafia

 

I can't believe I had seph as a town read ayyy lmao lolme

 

[Zander?]

I really have no idea why we would lynch Len today

 

Who do you wanna lynch?

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

oh wait

 

did you just admit to being mafia with Zander?

 

are you sussing me for "knowing your alignment"

 

WHAT LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

this is the wolfiest damn post I have ever seen

How??

the bolded

I didnt get it but I also dont get why its wolfy.

 

 

Seph sussed me for "knowing" both his and Zander's alignments, and therefore making the associative read that Niniel is town being TMI. I don't see how that's not a slip. 

 

 

 

im sticking with my gut here, I just don't believe you

Does what I said not make sense?

 

[v] Seph [/v]

 

not from what you posted.

 

You just said you were sticking with your gut, and you didn't believe me, which means some amount of what I said made sense to you. Tell me why my phrasing bothers you, if that's it?

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

 

@ darthe I really don't have anything to address about my lynch, there isn't anything there really. I understand its d1, and most of the stuff is going to be nitpicky. but most of it is peoples interpretation of my post vs its meaning. I can sit here and argue with you if you want, but I have found it to be pretty pointless. or I can try to help solve the game, so If I do get lynched I can help the town in some way.

Fair enough. I think you're windy but I'm not gonna beat this dead horse anymore. People have the thread if they need convincing

 

that was what lenlo's response should have been. ...

 

I DID! I did say that!

 

 

pretty sure you also complained that my read wasn't detailed enough.

 

Oh. My. God.

 

Two separate things. You complain and whine about something, I say I did it, then you complain and whine about something else.

[Katiora]

 

 

 

So I went ahead and iso'd Niniel.

 

 

Her post #428 she admits to wanting to sheep which feels like she not wanting to make her own reads. She further agrees with the opinions of others without making her own as yet. I know she's responded to people questioning this (#434 - response to BFG), but it doesn't change the original feel.

 

She confuses someone somewhere. I've read this but I didn't follow at all. It's odd. She wasn't very active so she could have lost track of her thoughts. She could also have lost track of her thoughts. The former as town. The latter as scum. Not alignment indicative to me.

 

She further replied to the first mentioned post in #631... and then starts sounding repetitive in #655 about BFG. She sounds like she's accusing - which I don't like 'cause there's so little posts before that where she's actually posting her own opinion and her own thoughts.

 

I like her post #1048. She starts saying what she thinks. She later shares her thoughts on everyone - but was it before or after people started voting her?

 

 

 

Not much to iso. And I'm actually still uncertain about her. If I have to place her on a spectrum she'd be more red than green - only because I think she only started being active or actively sharing her thoughts after people starting saying she was scummy. Am I wrong?

 

 

I agree... not much there for her. She comes in... blasts a few people, but doesn't really give reasons. Likes a few people, doesn't really give reasons. Accuses others of not contributing... then doesn't contribute lol

 

I see nothing town in her posts. And then she posts something like.. "this game don't expect big TownNini posts." And to me that's a scum out if I ever saw one. 

 

I mean: 

 

@ninel I need to see things from you. Ive seen no towntina that i know so well yet. you havent been very active so i was giving time but u need to show why i shouldnt be voting you tomorrow

 

I´m not sure I will be able to show you any ordinary townNini. I will just have to do the best I can in this game. Don´t expect anything big from me. 

 

 

@ninel I need to see things from you. Ive seen no towntina that i know so well yet. you havent been very active so i was giving time but u need to show why i shouldnt be voting you tomorrow

 

I´m not sure I will be able to show you any ordinary townNini. I will just have to do the best I can in this game. Don´t expect anything big from me. 

 

 

 

Or I could be telling the truth. 

 

 

Or you could just be lying....lol

 

Have you noticed that she never actually addressed anything that either of us said about her?? she kinda blew it off and then left. 

[seph]

 

 

 

 

 

oh wait

 

did you just admit to being mafia with Zander?

 

are you sussing me for "knowing your alignment"

 

WHAT LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

this is the wolfiest damn post I have ever seen

How??

the bolded

I didnt get it but I also dont get why its wolfy.

 

 

Seph sussed me for "knowing" both his and Zander's alignments, and therefore making the associative read that Niniel is town being TMI. I don't see how that's not a slip. 

 

 

 

im sticking with my gut here, I just don't believe you

Does what I said not make sense?

 

[v] Seph [/v]

 

not from what you posted.

 

You just said you were sticking with your gut, and you didn't believe me, which means some amount of what I said made sense to you. Tell me why my phrasing bothers you, if that's it?

 

the way you rephrased it yes, but in no way how you posted it, and tryed to defend it right after does it ever make sense

[Zander?]

[V]Lenlo [/V]

 

I prefer him to her. I only moved my vote because nobody seemed interested and I wanted to keep it closer between Seph and somebody I think might be mafia. Probably won't be able to check in again before deadline, so if anybody wants to have a discussion it's now our never

 

Hopefully you will get to.

 

Do you typically read Nina well?

 

Also what do you know of Liz's Scum game?

[seph]

sorry about not trimming quotes there, DONT KILL ME

[wish-tree]

 

 

Town thinks the lead wagon since irl d1 of the game is a wolf.

 

Lolme

 

that's partially another reason, irt wagonomics

 

how nice to casually add points as there mentioned lol. please explain the wagonomics to me, not darthe, you.

 

Alright. When there is a wolf up on the block, there's often a lot more activity near day end. Usually when someone remains lead wagon for a very long time, that means wolves aren't making a huge effort to save that person, which means that person is likely town or just a super outted wolf who is of low value to the team. 

 

Now, I'm not sure how DM wolfing works with every wolf for himself/herself, but I don't think that a sacrifice d1 would be very +EV. 

 

also, in terms of talent, Stork's right, I'm not too great at mafia

 

I can't believe I had seph as a town read ayyy lmao lolme

fake

 

or confirmation bias.