[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Ok I am caught up, but unfortunately I am not sure how much I will be around today, its robin's day off.

 

@ laine

yea my intro post was all jokey except for the halli bit, I gave her a slight town read because she was posting comfortably.

I saw a couple of people post about my lainey/bfg comment and I could have sworn I played mafia against bfg, though I could definitely be remembering the Pokemon game, because I do remember her freaking me out when she subbed in calling me mafia lol.

 

I liked a few responses from lenlo these last few pages

alanna catch up was pretty spot on for town her, giving her a town read for it alone.

If I had to guess sili would be town more often than mafia with how he is playing so far, I am still a bit uneasy there though

 

 

My goal today is to actually reread and make some notes, because I am still unsure about zander.

I initially thought clov was framing sili in a good light until the started going back and fourth with each other.

dice's reads concern me a bit. I doubt a town dice throws out a read of zander off of hardly nothing, I would expect him to be more cautious which I am not seeing at all here. This kinda goes back when he mentored me, and got onto m about town reading people early on without reason. I have been reading him extremely terrible but I definitely think his game is different than his last 2 town games.

niniel had a post that screamed town to me

 

town

Bfg

 

slight town

niniel

alanna

 

better than null

sili

lenlo

 

zander.dice,clov are definitely people I want to get a better handle on

I almost wanna call clov town, for his town read on me alone. I am going to read our last game on perc soon to see if he did this, but I don't think him as mafia would ever make me one of his strongest town reads. because I am not always clear and concise and I am easy to misinterpret/push when I am not.

 

oo hallia is supposed to be in slight town! forgot my town buddy :)

 

Woof seph, woof

 

 

Woof seph, woof

good boy darthe *pats his head*

 

lol but no, sadly I'm not

 

 

 

Woof seph, woof

good boy darthe *pats his head*

 

lol but no, sadly I'm not

 

why did you make one of my words impossible to read?

 

 

 

 

Why is the Dino in the snow, that's the first question

I just noticed this but lol.

you question the snow but not the cat or what's in his hands

 

 

 

 

If seph or shad is in this game when they arrive things will get very spicy.

Why?

Q&A time with Storktree:

1) How old were you during the 90s?

2) What was your favorite 90s artist/song?

3) Why are you playing this game?

4) Do you prefer to work together or alone?

5) What's your goal for this game (may be correlated to no. 3)?

6) What's your favorite role to play?

7) What meta do you have with other players?

8) Describe your own meta as best as you can.

You want him to answer this? Or us?

He doesn't need to answer this, heh, he can just tell me privately.

 

It's a Q and A for you guys to answer, ldo

also wish were you trying to get me modkilled with this post? sneaky little....

 

 

 

I'm not responding to all this in between the quotes, I'll just do it here. His catchup post was meh, had a lot of uneccesary chumminess in it and things I bolded like "my goal today" and "I definitely think" and etc, just things that are rhetoric intended to make it clear that hey guys look at me doing the work here. There are a couple of things I thought were really not wolfy such as how he would talk about his own meta and reference his earlier thoughts but those are things I'd expect a conscientious wolf to do.

 

The big thing was he called hally "slightly town" and says he forgot her then calls her "my town buddy" with a little =). It's a pocket attempt 100% of the time and going from slightly town to "my town buddy" is TMI.

 

Right after I said woof he says "Sadly I'm not". Again, an unnecessary descriptor. Wolves like to get verbose like this, and really is it sad? No, no it wouldn't be to a townie. That's not an adequate description of why it's wrong but I'm having trouble explaining that atm.

 

The when sili calls him on it he makes clear that he doesn't understand why it was wrong to say.

 

Actually... Thank you for that BFG. [v] seph [/v] and if he flips wolf which he likely will Sili and I are clear.

Still sort of processing this post.

 

Key things at this point:

 

Do you have anything more recent or is your case/vote based off the first 24 hours of play?

 

If so why vote now instead of then?

 

Why say stuff like 'generic villager' isn't 'sad' they're town, when Seph has said repeatedly that he 'wants' to rand mafia?

 

I don't really agree with 'verbiage' points, but it's alignment neutral for you

 

Separately if you've read the whole game why are you nudging me with stuff like 'the few times I've been in thread BFG has been uncharacteristically weak, when if you've read the whole thread you have a hell of a lot more to go on instead of just the '4 times' you've been in thread?

I posted that because it's what you asked for and my initial reasoning for sus. I mentioned one other thing when he did it about a day later, skipped some pages, then made this small case and have pointedout his odd responses since. That's about all he has been around while I have so I'm not sure what else you are looking for.

[Darthe]

I nudge you because I want to. I'd If you're town you can take some small inquiries

[Guest]

You can see the page number on your phone by clicking on the link. The last number of the address is the page number.

 

Example (I'm replacing the www with yyy): this is yyy.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-day-1/page-96

 

I think you can see where the page number is?

 

Should I post a how-to for mobile phones?

[Guest]

I don't know what to think of you yet, Darthe.

 

Mmm.

 

I still haven't read up. Going home soon so I should have a few hours to read some of the posts I've missed.

[Katiora]

You can see the page number on your phone by clicking on the link. The last number of the address is the page number.

 

Example (I'm replacing the www with yyy): this is yyy.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-day-1/page-96

 

I think you can see where the page number is?

 

Should I post a how-to for mobile phones?

This wouldn't hurt my feelings lol

[Darthe]

I don't know what to think of you yet, Darthe.

 

Mmm.

 

I still haven't read up. Going home soon so I should have a few hours to read some of the posts I've missed.

Good! I think its it's better to be cautious in general

[Clovdyx]

Okay

 

Chris have you been pushing Zander much at all? I struggle to see where he wouldn't flip out at you if you're scum reading him or have been pushing him.

Yeah. There's probably a couple pages of it.

[Clovdyx]

i want either len or seph lynched. the only possible saving grace for len is if all those "NOT WORTH MENTIONINGS" are too obvious to come from mafia.

 

 

 

seph started off kinda sussing me   i felt like he was thinking he could mislynch me later.  then suddenly i go from needing a handle to being above null

 

I think Darthe is making sense regarding seph and the halli stuff

 

 

vote seph

What the hell is this? You have somebody you think is scummy and you're ignoring it because its too obvious, in favor of...what exactly?

 

Show me what you think Darthe said that you agree with, and explain to me why somebody adjusting a read is a bad thing. Because that doesnt make any damn sense.

[Guest]

 

You can see the page number on your phone by clicking on the link. The last number of the address is the page number.

 

Example (I'm replacing the www with yyy): this is yyy.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-day-1/page-96

 

I think you can see where the page number is?

 

Should I post a how-to for mobile phones?

This wouldn't hurt my feelings lol[/quote?

 

Lol okay. I'll see what I can come up with.

[Clovdyx]

 

I don't like the Seph wagon

Idk why bit this is standing out to me and I kinda agree.. Bleh

  

 

Lenlo's vote 'fits' with what he said rarlier, but him popping after yesterday without anything new is probably telling.

This and bessie could be why. That said, this is a suggestive post rather than an active post.

Its irksome to agree with the content and yet wary of it based on its presentation and who said it

You have a weak case on Seph. I think you look sketchy for it. I also know think you're somebody totally willing to push incredibly small, obscure things. That is the only reason I'm not pushing you off a cliff right now.

 

 

The fact multiple people who have done basically nothing to gauge him are supporting it blows my mind. Did I somehow miss this amazing argument?

[Guest]

Lol I missed a bracket

[Guest]

Sorry ♡

[Zander?]

[unvote][v]Seph[/v]

 

All the trains.

 

I dont recall but were you sussing seph at all this game?

[Zander?]

 

 

Sorry guys! My night got away from me!

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Zander (2) - Niniel, alannalynn

Niniel (2) - Hallia, Zander,

Lenlo (2) - Clov, Sili

Sili (1) - Lenlo

Seph (1) - Darthe

 

Not Voting (7) - Besie, BFG, Katiora, Lily, Wistork, Lizabeth, Seph, dice

 

 

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

 

 

 

Zander, how do you feel about Niniel basically peacing out from thread when she started taking a little heat? Me no like.

Ive noticed and she has like 11 posts, even Lily has more.

 

Well only other place my vote goes is Lenork so ya.

She's about to fall out of my uncomfortable with zone to the wtl zone.

I was referring to Lenork

 

 

Oh lololololol sorry my bad!!!!

[Zander?]

Alright, good night all.  Wish me luck in the morning!

 

glgl!!!!!

[Clovdyx]

Pretty sure the people voting Seph are Darthe, Lenlo, Besie, and Dice right now. The only person I would have had any issue with voting there yesterday would have been Dice, and after those posts, I'm rethinking that.

 

I won't vote Seph at this point if youbpaid me.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Ok I am caught up, but unfortunately I am not sure how much I will be around today, its robin's day off.

 

@ laine 

yea my intro post was all jokey except for the halli bit, I gave her a slight town read because she was posting comfortably.

I saw a couple of people post about my lainey/bfg comment and I could have sworn I played mafia against bfg, though I could definitely be remembering the Pokemon game, because I do remember her freaking me out when she subbed in calling me mafia lol.

 

I liked a few responses from lenlo these last few pages

alanna catch up was pretty spot on for town her, giving her a town read for it alone.

If I had to guess sili would be town more often than mafia with how he is playing so far, I am still a bit uneasy there though

 

 

My goal today is to actually reread and make some notes, because I am still unsure about zander.

I initially thought clov was framing sili in a good light until the started going back and fourth with each other. 

dice's reads concern me a bit. I doubt a town dice throws out a read of zander off of hardly nothing, I would expect him to be more cautious which I am not seeing at all here. This kinda goes back when he mentored me, and got onto m about town reading people early on without reason. I have been reading him extremely terrible but I definitely think his game is different than his last 2 town games.

niniel had a post that screamed town to me

 

town

Bfg

 

slight town

niniel

alanna

 

better than null

sili

lenlo 

 

zander.dice,clov are definitely people I want to get a better handle on

I almost wanna call clov town, for his town read on me alone. I am going to read our last game on perc soon to see if he did this, but I don't think him as mafia would ever make me one of his strongest town reads. because I am not always clear and concise and I am easy to misinterpret/push when I am not.

 

 

oo hallia is supposed to be in slight town! forgot my town buddy :)

 

 

Woof seph, woof

 

 

 

Woof seph, woof

good boy darthe *pats his head*

 

lol but no, sadly I'm not

 

 

 

 

 

Woof seph, woof

good boy darthe *pats his head*

 

lol but no, sadly I'm not

 

 

 

 

why did you make one of my words impossible to read?

 

 

Why is the Dino in the snow, that's the first question

I just noticed this but lol.

you question the snow but not the cat or what's in his hands

 

 

 

 

If seph or shad is in this game when they arrive things will get very spicy.

 

Why?

Q&A time with Storktree:

1) How old were you during the 90s?

2) What was your favorite 90s artist/song?

3) Why are you playing this game?

4) Do you prefer to work together or alone?

5) What's your goal for this game (may be correlated to no. 3)?

6) What's your favorite role to play?

7) What meta do you have with other players?

8) Describe your own meta as best as you can.

You want him to answer this? Or us?

 

He doesn't need to answer this, heh, he can just tell me privately.

 

It's a Q and A for you guys to answer, ldo

 

also wish were you trying to get me modkilled with this post? sneaky little....

 

 

 

 

I'm not responding to all this in between the quotes, I'll just do it here.  His catchup post was meh, had a lot of uneccesary chumminess in it and things I bolded like "my goal today" and "I definitely think" and etc, just things that are rhetoric intended to make it clear that hey guys look at me doing the work here.  There are a couple of things I thought were really not wolfy such as how he would talk about his own meta and reference his earlier thoughts but those are things I'd expect a conscientious wolf to do.

 

The big thing was he called hally "slightly town" and says he forgot her then calls her "my town buddy" with a little =).   It's a pocket attempt 100% of the time and going from slightly town to "my town buddy" is TMI.  

 

Right after I said woof he says "Sadly I'm not".  Again, an unnecessary descriptor.  Wolves like to get verbose like this, and really is it sad?  No, no it wouldn't be to a townie.  That's not an adequate description of why it's wrong but I'm having trouble explaining that atm.

 

The when sili calls him on it he makes clear that he doesn't understand why it was wrong to say.

 

Actually... Thank you for that BFG.  [v] seph [/v] and if he flips wolf which he likely will Sili and I are clear.

 

Still sort of processing this post.

 

Key things at this point:

 

Do you have anything more recent or is your case/vote based off the first 24 hours of play?

 

If so why vote now instead of then?

 

Why say stuff like 'generic villager' isn't 'sad' they're town, when Seph has said repeatedly that he 'wants' to rand mafia?

 

I don't really agree with 'verbiage' points, but it's alignment neutral for you

 

Separately if you've read the whole game why are you nudging me with stuff like 'the few times I've been in thread BFG has been uncharacteristically weak, when if you've read the whole thread you have a hell of a lot more to go on instead of just the '4 times' you've been in thread?

 

 

INteresting points.  Looking forward to his responses.

[Zander?]

Zander can you do me a favour? You are getting caught up in a LOT of fights that seem to end up with you saying 'I've already said this', can you please just start restating or linking back to your explanation because right now the arguments aren't helping much

 

No.

 

Why?

 

Its all there.

 

People are asking my questions Ive already answered.

 

Ive been putting way more then my fair share of work into this game and some people are saying well i havent even read all the thread.

 

Its just a piss off because even a few times when ive said ive said this or explained this already to someone, someone different states they seen it.

[Zander?]

 

Hi Besie GL?

Thanks.

 

I properly read up to p20 ish, skimmed up to p40, and then saw the msg to sub so I've still a bit to read through. I'll only properly quote and such from here, everyone.

 

So up to the p40ish skim+read, my feels have been the following:

 

Towny:

Sili

Wish

Hallia

Alanna

Clov

 

Not town:

Zander

 

Scummy:

Seph

BFG

 

And neutral-ish on the rest. I'll stay caught up with the newer posts (from here), and I'll try to read the ones I missed (p40ish to p90ish) somewhere today.

 

 

What in particular have you seen thats made you think Im Scummy?

 

Reasons for any of these?

[Zander?]

I haven't read any of the last 40 pages yet, I got distracted by youtube.

 

What is the difference between Zander catching up as town or mafia?

@BFG idk It's more something that had been rattling around in my head about Zander but I haven't actually gone back and looked at proof. It's more a theory than an actual thing, him being less likely to pay attention to current thread state while catching up as maf than town. Like he's losing himself in details rather than looking at the big picture, which could explain all these small arguments which are so distracting and don't move the game forward.

 

I hope youre not blaming me ffs.

 

People are coming after me for what is mostly garbage. 

 

And even tho its making me really really annoyed and Ive gotten into back and forths Ive been at the big picture this game,

[Zander?]

 

I haven't read any of the last 40 pages yet, I got distracted by youtube.

 

What is the difference between Zander catching up as town or mafia?

@BFG idk It's more something that had been rattling around in my head about Zander but I haven't actually gone back and looked at proof. It's more a theory than an actual thing, him being less likely to pay attention to current thread state while catching up as maf than town. Like he's losing himself in details rather than looking at the big picture, which could explain all these small arguments which are so distracting and don't move the game forward.

 

Ok, the thing is that you talked about GB and the little I remember from that game Zander avoided thread interaction with you because he was delving into ISOs. This game he seems to be catching up as normal and then spending time in thread. I think I recall a couple of places where his catch up was interrupted.

 

I guess I have a vague question about how likely Zander is to multitab while catching up, but mostly I just remember x number of Sooh's posts while she's 'waiting for real time Zander'

 

 

 

I think there's another question floating around about your points on Hallia

 

 

I think Ive mentioned this before maybe in a QT or in Chatz so take it with a grain of salt but I tried Multitabing in SW and I got really really confused.

[Zander?]

[V]Niniel [/V]

 

Dont hate it at all.

[Lizabeth]

I have 15 minutes before I have to run to work, so I apologize - I'm not going to read through all 305 messages that have been posted since I went to bed last night.

 

(as a partially whiny, partly constructive feedback to the Gods of DM - I would love love love if it were possible to change the notification system to get notification of responses to my posts and mentions rather than just all the posts that have been posted since I posted, which just makes me sad...)

 

I will try to skim back before I go, but I don't know when end of day is or if I'll be able to get back home in time to do much before then.

 

Seph is my strongest scum read right now and he has been basically since his entrance to the thread. I was trying to test a theory about him vs. Sili at one point, but no one (from what I saw) actually responded to my probe about Sili's SK meta (I think Sili is town now for the record) and Seph never seems to be around or responsive when I'm trying to test anything.

 

Most of my notes are from the first 20 pages, but what I've seen from him since hasn't shifted my perspective.

 

1. He seems very TMI about trying to establish that he is NOT a wolf:

 

 

Don't worry guys I brought all my wolf hunting tools, and I am ready to lunch it up.

 

 

 

 

If seph or shad is in this game when they arrive things will get very spicy.

Why?

 

He tries very hard.

 

I try to have fun :( I mean look at my sweet dinosaur I captured to slay wolves with.

maybe if I rolled mafia more I would joke more

 

 

 

 

Q&A time with Storktree:

1) How old were you during the 90s?

2) What was your favorite 90s artist/song?

3) Why are you playing this game?

4) Do you prefer to work together or alone?

5) What's your goal for this game (may be correlated to no. 3)?

6) What's your favorite role to play?

7) What meta do you have with other players?

8) Describe your own meta as best as you can.

You want him to answer this? Or us?

 

donno if it was to me lol but

 

1. born in 89

2. savage garden. I want you (didn't/couldn't list a country song it would be to difficult)

3. because I love mafia

4. together

5.winning, i play to win

6.mafia though evern since I said that, I have never rolled it lol. been on a town streak of around 10 games, so over a year and a half since i rolled mafia i think)

7.I have meta on most, though It isn't my main means to read people

8.town- I say what is on my mind, though I have been trying to hold back a bit. I usually end up starting the game, or become a main discussion because I play pretty aggressive. as mafia I tend to overpush the person I want mislynched, and ignore most of the game. my last game before I went mia shad described my mafia game to a t actually.

I dont remember the game but he won over sooh and someone in the final 3

 

 

 

2. He town-reads BFG really early and seems very eager to buddy BFG (and Alanna) and paint him and BFG as part of a town core (I missed the part about Hally that Darthe has pointed out, but yeah...that too)

 

 

 

 

also ganna give sili a light town read.

dem page 4 reads are op.

hallia and i are probably very easy and necessary reads at this point.

 

 

for wolf seph.

the top two comments look like you ar insinuating there is a chance I am mafia, right?

 

 

sili have I ever wolfed against you?

Unsure.

 

So you think Seph is mafia?

No.

 

me and bfg try to get into your thought process here and you shut us out completely, and I don't understand why.

 

 

looks like once that I saw in darthes middle of earth game. The reason i am asking is I found the statement odd with there only being like 20% if that of the game checked in.

 

 

 

 

 

It's not that important. I just don't feel like explaining rn.

 

then why even bother saying it if it isn't important, at the time you obviously thought it has some meaning.

This is so silly. It was an argument I don't care about anymore.

me and bfg were only asking question, we were not berating you. If you can explain where you were coming from maybe it will make sense to us, that's all we are trying to do is see this from your pov.

but i agree with bfg I don't understand where you are coming form

 

 

 

 

I stopped doing quotes at that point and just noted page numbers, but I noted that in #298 he disagrees with Lenlo saying that Zander is off and BFG town – buddying BFG???? Protecting a town buddy?

 

 

3. He seems to shade and be unconcerned about shifting his votes even when he supposedly no longer has a scum read on Sili - which always reads to me like scum wanting to wait and see if their "leftover" vote could be picked up into a wagon later:

#167 Seph claims that he hasn’t unvoted Sili because he’s lazy

 

 

5. In the first quote I quoted in #1, I also noted that he seems eager to shade Zander, Dice, and Clov, and then in #176 Seph answers Zander it felt like he was shading Zander again* (note about Zander coming up later).

 

6. He just seems too...cocky this game. I've played with him as town in to games now, and I was able to pick up signs of "town!Seph" by this point. Especially in the last game where he was clearly town to me even though he voted against my mason partner in an attempt to save Clov who turned out to be mafia. But I'm not seeing town!Seph here. I've missed a good chunk of posts, granted, but even when we finally were posting in the thread at the same time he seemed eager to sling shade at me after I started questioning other people about him, and he seemed more defensive than productive when people started suggesting that he was scum, getting sulky and claiming VT.

 

 

I also have supsicions on Lenlo, Dice and Darthe, but I feel like I haven't had a chance to test out any of those theories because they don't seem to be responding to my probes...or they're not responding when I'm around. Darthe, I will admit (sorry Darthe) is that he seems nicer than I expect him to be. But I actually agree with his thoughts on Seph (with the exception of that ridiculous theory about punctuation that I'm hoping he's joking about)

 

*With Zander - I don't think he can be scum with Seph, Niniel, or Lenny. I want to think he's not scum at all. The thing with both Seph and Niniel claiming that he's asking pointless questions at points when I didn't think he was (prior to his engagement with them - as I pointed out I thought his repetitive questioning of Niniel's read on Kat (?) was circular, but that was AFTER Niniel's claim that his earlier questioning was meaningless).

 

 

With Lenny, I think her accusations that Zander must be scum because he was too jokey to be town were ridiculous. But (no offense) that's more what I expect from town Lenny than scum lenny. She drove me nuts the one game I played with her because she kept picking up on things that I considered nonsensical to try to push people with, and then she'd also tell people what she expected to see from them if they were scum or town (even though I explained to her that TELLING people what she expected made her supposed tells useless). Scum lenny seems to be more subtle and calculating.

 

And now I have to go to work because that took me almost 15 minutes to type...

[Zander?]

 

 

Hi Besie GL?

Thanks.

I properly read up to p20 ish, skimmed up to p40, and then saw the msg to sub so I've still a bit to read through. I'll only properly quote and such from here, everyone.

So up to the p40ish skim+read, my feels have been the following:

Towny:

Sili

Wish

Hallia

Alanna

Clov

Not town:

Zander

Scummy:

Seph

BFG

And neutral-ish on the rest. I'll stay caught up with the newer posts (from here), and I'll try to read the ones I missed (p40ish to p90ish) somewhere today.

Trying to think back where page 40 was. I feel like it was Monday night? If that's the case, I'm not sure what you saw that made you think BFG or Seph were particularly scummy.

 

I'm "okay" at reading her and thought she was incredibly more likely to be town at that point. Her activity and interest alone should have been enough for that, and I had no problems with her content. Her back and forth fighting with Zander isn't really something I've seen from her really, but I know she dislikes randing mafia and have a hard time picturing her deliberately picking a fight she knows she's going to have a hard time pushing AND is going to basically always result in 'retaliation'. She's told me before that she would have a hard time pushing Cory or me because it takes a lot of time. I very rarely get as invested as Zander, so I would assume the same caveat applies.

 

Still not seeing it with Seph, either, but he makes more sense at that point (and probably most of the game, tbh) tham she does. I think the best argument for him being mafia this game is, ironically, the 'contradiction' Zander posted. I still think a lot of townies could make that post, and I'm not sure thats in the pages you've skimmed anyway.

 

Can you pull some quotes to explain these?

 

 

Agree with the BFG part.

 

I just get a kick out of how many people are Scum reading me yet agreeing with things Im saying when Cory and Shad who read me the best say its my cases and pushes and reasonings that are my Tell one way or the other.

 

Makes 0 sense to me.

 

And yes Chris I read the part about Town making the post is quite possible but my point stands.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Zander [/v]

good vote

 

I'm asking Stork to make the deciding vote atm tho b/c I might be completely biased against Zander, and I want a second eye 

 

just imagine that there's a huge piano labeled vote dangling above Zander's head

 

gngn <3

My vote was 50/50: I don't trust Zander yet and this is almost 90 pages and I should. The other 50% is a policy vote for his damned quoting.

 

Like you didnt trust me when you mislynched me....

You seriously can't hold this against me forever. I don't want the damn guilt trip about why I'm not town reading you. I'm willing to vote Lenlo/Zander today and that's probably it atm.

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Zander [/v]

good vote

 

I'm asking Stork to make the deciding vote atm tho b/c I might be completely biased against Zander, and I want a second eye 

 

just imagine that there's a huge piano labeled vote dangling above Zander's head

 

gngn <3

My vote was 50/50: I don't trust Zander yet and this is almost 90 pages and I should. The other 50% is a policy vote for his damned quoting.

 

Like you didnt trust me when you mislynched me....

You seriously can't hold this against me forever. I don't want the damn guilt trip about why I'm not town reading you. I'm willing to vote Lenlo/Zander today and that's probably it atm.

 

I can when I KNOW Im Town Lainey.

 

What are you gonna say when I flip Town?

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Zander [/v]

good vote

 

I'm asking Stork to make the deciding vote atm tho b/c I might be completely biased against Zander, and I want a second eye 

 

just imagine that there's a huge piano labeled vote dangling above Zander's head

 

gngn <3

My vote was 50/50: I don't trust Zander yet and this is almost 90 pages and I should. The other 50% is a policy vote for his damned quoting.

 

Like you didnt trust me when you mislynched me....

You seriously can't hold this against me forever. I don't want the damn guilt trip about why I'm not town reading you. I'm willing to vote Lenlo/Zander today and that's probably it atm.

I can when I KNOW Im Town Lainey.

 

What are you gonna say when I flip Town?

That depends on if you flip town. I have 40 pages to catch up on anyways so glgl me

 

[unvote] until I'm caught up and I'll place my vote then

This is an incredibly good looking exchange for her. Not sure what game Zander is referring to, but I hate this reply either way. If she was town that game, he's basically suggesting she isn't allowed to be wrong. If she was mafia, his post basically implies she's mafia here...and I'm not sure he's said anything all game to suggest this would be the case (though I'll concede I have low certainty in that statent)

 

Regardless of what she was before, her actually willing to be against him is a positive. Basically echoing what Darthe said.

 

 

I have a Town lean on Lainey.

 

And no people I think that know me well arent gonna skate by with BS reaasons to suss me period.

 

Ill bring it up Lainey brought up the time we did to her.

 

The difference was when we did it to her we had it down to PoE of pretty much 2 and had a Mislynch,

 

Im the game where she mislynched me was similar to this, she wasnt super invested, gave me a early Scum read and I fought with her to re read me to show progression, re evaluation on D1 and she wouldnt/didnt.

 

Like I know obv you dont know my alignment. 

 

But I really have a hard time thinking you dont  think to yourself this is quite possibly/likely how Town!Zander handles reacts to to this stuff.