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Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:07 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:49 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:34 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:31 PM, Clovdyx said:

And I know you and I approach the game with vastly different methods, but most of that seems pretty obvious to me, so you seemingly not getting any of is probably a bad sign.

 

I have some thoughts pertaining to you, but I kinda wanna see where you take this first.

 

So were different, we look at things differently and have different ways of approaching things yet me not following you on what you think of me, when I obv KNOW that Im Town is a bad sign?

 

 

It's a bad sign that you seemingly haven't grasped a lot of things I feel are pretty basic concepts.  You're not a bad player.  You're not an inexperienced player.  So yes, even though we use different methods, I would expect Town!Zander would eventually look at something I've said and say "Well, you're wrong about me, but I at least get where you're coming from."

 

 

All this doesnt mean we view, look, interrupt, process or perceive things the same way tho does it.

 

 

?

 

I just said we don't.

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Zander? Spam Master

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:05 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:39 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:43 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:37 PM, Zander said:
  On 6/7/2016 at 3:48 PM, Katiora said:

I like thia post because as Scum imo she'd have the opportunity to push at least someone from this list.

 

Can you elaborate on the Bold? 

 

Yes... to elaborate... From what they're saying neither one of them particularly think the other is scum. They're just arguing about phonetics lol They don't agree.. they should, to use something else.. LET IT GOOOOO LET IT GOOOOOOOOOO 

 

 

I mean more along the liines of you think its T/T?

 

Or like do you feel ONE of them has an agenda?

 

 

I think it's POSSIBLE both of them have an agenda or one, or neither... At this point though it doesn't matter. The fights killing the thread and I don't think it's good for town regardless of their alignment. It's one thing to have a few post argument or if you legitimately think you have a scum and are going after them. It's something else entirely if you're just arguing because you wanna look right and go on for PAGES and ignore everything and everyone else. 

 

 

What did you think of Chris's correct comment about him Scum reading and voting Lenlo?

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:11 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Key I'm so proud of you

 

GAME INTEGRITY :wub:

:) :wub:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Key I'm so proud of you

 

GAME INTEGRITY :wub:

 

LOCK CLEAR

 

<3 <3 <3

 

Better be talking about me ;).

 

 

Forcing a read?  Probably a bad look - could vote Key today.

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:08 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:06 PM, BFG said:

Wish, minor question but what do you mean by ISO?

 

I know it usually means reading people's posts in isolation, but I can't really do that, people are usually connected to each other and separating them would destroy the reads I have, which are usually associative. When I ISO I group posts together by similar time frame but also related content, and also by groups of people I have as connected/tied to each other.

 

Ok, that's fine, I prefer to read in context as well if I have the time

 

So did you get each group of posts write your stuff and get the next, or did you grab all of them and then wrote it later on?

wish-tree Rising Star

wish-tree

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:06 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:06 PM, BFG said:

Wish, minor question but what do you mean by ISO?

Or, rather what was your process last night when you made your posts?

 

I wanted to analyze you/sili, sili/seph, you/seph, thought there was a potential connection there after you backed off of Sili. I have kind of two reads budding, the reads that I have currently just reading the thread, which are not very strong and prone to change like the weather, based off of tiny things people do. The other kind of read is me separating myself from the thread in order to get a clearer head, instead of being so affected by what I think of people (lol) and getting swept up by the thread momentum. I try to reconcile those reads to come to a conglomerate.

 

I made the opening post analysis because I'm usually jumping into the thread raring to go, and start analyzing people's openings. That's really big for me b/c a lot of people aren't aware of how they enter a thread, and often that's the most vulnerable and easiest time for me to tone read people (even if I'm somtimes horrible at it, and sometimes super on top of it).

 

I felt obliged to keep up with the thread b/c Stork hasn't been, so I've been reading the thread, but really don't have the time or the concentration to analyze every post, which is something that I'm really used to doing as town.

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:12 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:11 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Key I'm so proud of you

 

GAME INTEGRITY :wub:

:) :wub:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Key I'm so proud of you

 

GAME INTEGRITY :wub:

 

LOCK CLEAR

 

<3 <3 <3

 

Better be talking about me ;).

 

 

Forcing a read?  Probably a bad look - could vote Key today.

 

Chris plz :(

 

Key obv town

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:11 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Key I'm so proud of you

 

GAME INTEGRITY :wub:

:) :wub:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Key I'm so proud of you

 

GAME INTEGRITY :wub:

 

LOCK CLEAR

 

<3 <3 <3

 

Better be talking about me ;).

 

 

So its for Cory, leaning Scum on you after randing me the Band you did....

 

(id have said which band but i dont recall if we can character claim or not because I never read the rules and havent seen anyone else do it that I can recall.)

 

lolololololol

Zander? Spam Master

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:11 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:07 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:49 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:34 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:31 PM, Clovdyx said:

And I know you and I approach the game with vastly different methods, but most of that seems pretty obvious to me, so you seemingly not getting any of is probably a bad sign.

 

I have some thoughts pertaining to you, but I kinda wanna see where you take this first.

 

So were different, we look at things differently and have different ways of approaching things yet me not following you on what you think of me, when I obv KNOW that Im Town is a bad sign?

 

 

It's a bad sign that you seemingly haven't grasped a lot of things I feel are pretty basic concepts.  You're not a bad player.  You're not an inexperienced player.  So yes, even though we use different methods, I would expect Town!Zander would eventually look at something I've said and say "Well, you're wrong about me, but I at least get where you're coming from."

 

 

All this doesnt mean we view, look, interrupt, process or perceive things the same way tho does it.

 

 

?

 

I just said we don't.

 

 

I know.  Was kinda my point.

wish-tree Rising Star

wish-tree

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:13 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:08 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:06 PM, BFG said:

Wish, minor question but what do you mean by ISO?

 

I know it usually means reading people's posts in isolation, but I can't really do that, people are usually connected to each other and separating them would destroy the reads I have, which are usually associative. When I ISO I group posts together by similar time frame but also related content, and also by groups of people I have as connected/tied to each other.

 

Ok, that's fine, I prefer to read in context as well if I have the time

 

So did you get each group of posts write your stuff and get the next, or did you grab all of them and then wrote it later on?

 

I intended to grab all the posts at one time and write them in one huge post, because as I was reading the thread I essentially multiquoted as I went, finding the posts that I had questions on/were pingy to me. But that failed because I had too many posts, so I then rearranged and grouped them into separate walls of text (which I have been calling ISOs, lol if that's the wrong interpretation). I had some things written before underneath the posts, but had to change some of them and reinsert other posts because the focus of each wall of text would just not make sense logically. So, sort of both? 

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:10 PM, Clovdyx said:

Lenore, do you have much experience with Hallia?  Because - with no offense intended to Hallia, I think she knows I think she's awesome - she's not exactly the "fiery reads" kind of player.  She'll give her opinion, and she'll justify it where she can, but it's not like she's going to thunderdome somebody into the ground.

 

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:00 PM, wish-tree said:

Darthe called you his top town for you being just fire or fiery, and at that point you were posting little more than "I agree with this" and 1-liners that didn't demonstrate to me any original content. Imo your opening was great but you haven't done anything to make you strongest town in that way, and I think Darthe is also suspicious for dropping that read, plus really? How does Darthe make that kind of read his strongest when there's nothing much to back it up?

 

I don't think this is a bad observation for her, though.

I sadly don't have much experience with her, only one game where we were all mafia, so uhhh I don't really know what I'd be looking for. Thanks for this. Irt meta with people, I don't really care enough/have enough cares in my bones to follow games I'm no longer playing in, much less games I don't have any vested interest in, so assume the only meta I have on you I actually have to search for to find/or is from the games we've played together.

 

What is your read on Darthe/Hallia, then? 

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wish-tree

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:17 PM, BFG said:

Ok, thanks :) actual useful questions incoming. Just may take me a while to link the stuff I need

No problem

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:15 PM, Zander said:

I know.  Was kinda my point.

 

 

...Then I have no idea what point you're making.  

 

Are you saying I ought to think it's a good sign you seem to disagree with me on almost everything of value so far?

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wish-tree

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:08 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:06 PM, BFG said:

Wish, minor question but what do you mean by ISO?

 

I know it usually means reading people's posts in isolation, but I can't really do that, people are usually connected to each other and separating them would destroy the reads I have, which are usually associative. When I ISO I group posts together by similar time frame but also related content, and also by groups of people I have as connected/tied to each other.

 

This explains a lot... thanks.... 

 

Could you actually talk to me about what problems you had about my posts/thought processes last night?

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wish-tree

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:10 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:00 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:58 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:55 PM, wish-tree said:

not sure if this is a rule on this site against talking about subbing out

 

until I find out, that is a dirty read and I won't voice it

 

There's not a site rule, but it is dirty and I don't like it, so:

 

 

 

No discussion of replacement request.

 

got it, thanks and sorry

 

No harm no foul, wish :).  You basically asked before providing a dirty read, so no worries.

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:02 PM, wish-tree said:

lol XD

 

I remember pre-MU days on PerC where we just discussed subs all the time and whether it was more likely for x to be scum if they had a history of subbing out b/c of that

 

We used to do that here too, but I never liked it.  Especially since I have had to sub out of both town and scum roles due to RL. 

 

:wub:

 

I'm incorrigible, but I don't break the rules

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:11 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:05 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:39 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:43 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 7:37 PM, Zander said:
  On 6/7/2016 at 3:48 PM, Katiora said:

I like thia post because as Scum imo she'd have the opportunity to push at least someone from this list.

 

Can you elaborate on the Bold? 

 

Yes... to elaborate... From what they're saying neither one of them particularly think the other is scum. They're just arguing about phonetics lol They don't agree.. they should, to use something else.. LET IT GOOOOO LET IT GOOOOOOOOOO 

 

 

I mean more along the liines of you think its T/T?

 

Or like do you feel ONE of them has an agenda?

 

 

I think it's POSSIBLE both of them have an agenda or one, or neither... At this point though it doesn't matter. The fights killing the thread and I don't think it's good for town regardless of their alignment. It's one thing to have a few post argument or if you legitimately think you have a scum and are going after them. It's something else entirely if you're just arguing because you wanna look right and go on for PAGES and ignore everything and everyone else. 

 

 

What did you think of Chris's correct comment about him Scum reading and voting Lenlo?

 

... your'e really going to make me search through 64 pages of stuff.. i remember the comment, kinda... but it was during one of those altercations where my brain partially shut down... lemme find the quote... 

 

Ok.. first off what do you mean by "correct comment" I don't understand the question fully. 

 

I understand his vote on lenlo, and I don't disagree with his reasoning. But I'm not SOLD on his reasoning. I agree that a town would never say "Well i've gone this far might as well screw town over and keep draggin this towny to the lynch" If town does that then they is bad town and they no need to be here lol. He acted like he knew that Sili was town and trying to drag him down. He even said "if i'm wolf" I wouldn't say that... ever.. I never want you to associate me with a wolf... no if.. I'm not. just how it is. So I see his point. But idk... though the more I type it out and think about it the more sense it makes.. lol 

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Katiora

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:20 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:08 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:06 PM, BFG said:

Wish, minor question but what do you mean by ISO?

 

I know it usually means reading people's posts in isolation, but I can't really do that, people are usually connected to each other and separating them would destroy the reads I have, which are usually associative. When I ISO I group posts together by similar time frame but also related content, and also by groups of people I have as connected/tied to each other.

 

This explains a lot... thanks.... 

 

Could you actually talk to me about what problems you had about my posts/thought processes last night?

 

It just didn't read like an ISO that I am used to... It was confusing.. now i understand.. That's all lol 

wish-tree Rising Star

wish-tree

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:23 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:20 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:09 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:08 PM, wish-tree said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:06 PM, BFG said:

Wish, minor question but what do you mean by ISO?

 

I know it usually means reading people's posts in isolation, but I can't really do that, people are usually connected to each other and separating them would destroy the reads I have, which are usually associative. When I ISO I group posts together by similar time frame but also related content, and also by groups of people I have as connected/tied to each other.

 

This explains a lot... thanks.... 

 

Could you actually talk to me about what problems you had about my posts/thought processes last night?

 

It just didn't read like an ISO that I am used to... It was confusing.. now i understand.. That's all lol 

 

lol okay

 

sorry XD

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Katiora

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Honestly I thought my brain had melted and I was missing something or something

<.< 

 

>.> 

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wish-tree

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I did see the one liz post about me being far more confusing to her as town than when I'm scum, which is pretty accurate, she gets a slight town lean from pointing that out?

 

But yeah, girl, you'll have to provide more than that for me to trust you this game.

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wish-tree

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erm, Katiora

 

people call the end result of reading my posts as their brains melting or their brains hurting, so I guess you're not alone

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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I have no read on Darthe.  He's firmly in my POE because he's done nothing to remove himself, and he's nowhere near the bottom because he hasn't done anything to draw my suspicion.  I won't vote him over Lenlo, Tina, Zander, and maybe throw Lily in there, but I'd CFD his ass in a heart beat if the counterwagon was one of the people I mentioned earlier.

 

Hallia I feel good about.  There's not a single post I would say couldn't come from Hallia as mafia, but her entire game total makes me feel good about her.  She's taken a few pretty strong stances, and none of her reasons seemed scummy or that they couldn't be genuine.  Her post about Alanna's stfu comment sounded REALLY pure to me.

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Lenlo

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  On 6/7/2016 at 9:21 PM, Katiora said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:11 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 9:05 PM, Katiora said:
 

... your'e really going to make me search through 64 pages of stuff.. i remember the comment, kinda... but it was during one of those altercations where my brain partially shut down... lemme find the quote... 

 

Ok.. first off what do you mean by "correct comment" I don't understand the question fully. 

 

I understand his vote on lenlo, and I don't disagree with his reasoning. But I'm not SOLD on his reasoning. I agree that a town would never say "Well i've gone this far might as well screw town over and keep draggin this towny to the lynch" If town does that then they is bad town and they no need to be here lol. He acted like he knew that Sili was town and trying to drag him down. He even said "if i'm wolf" I wouldn't say that... ever.. I never want you to associate me with a wolf... no if.. I'm not. just how it is. So I see his point. But idk... though the more I type it out and think about it the more sense it makes.. lol 

 

When did I ever try to drag him down? 

 

Also its a good thing im not you then. I dont care if saying "If im a wolf" associates that with me if it will help me get a point across. My job isnt to survive to the end of the game and never get lynched, its to find wolves or at the least, town tell so im not mistaken for one. If I can do both great. If not, ill atleast try to do one.

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For you Zander:

 

  On 6/5/2016 at 4:19 PM, keyholder21 said:

7. You may roleclaim or character claim whatever you please. Mafia will be provided fakeclaims.

and hey! There is nothing wrong with your band :tongue:.

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