[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 2:52 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:47 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

i've seen many people bus more than that. it's hardly unlikely. in fact it depends a lot on the person and the context. =/

i might come to the same conclusion as you, but i'd go about it a different way.

Under what circumstances have you seen someone bus?

Kat wanted Niniel dead from early D1 but then suddenly shifts to go after Lenny when Lenny wasn't in danger otherwise. You're telling me that you expect her to bus that way?

god, so many.

i've seen wolves break ties in favor of town just for perks. i've seen wolves go at each other like hounds all day in a thunderdome. i've seen some wolves actively bus weaker members cannibal style.

Lizabeth · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:45 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:42 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

The assumption bussing doesn't happen is bs. I ain't even suspecting kat here. I'm suspecting you for thinking 'it's next to impossible'.

As far as nin is concerned however, as far as i understand the situation niniel's wagon was dropping and wish's was the only other competitive wagon with seph's.

hm.

i changed my mind a little.

to be precise it looks a little good she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons.

We're talking about D2 here, not D1.

And you're contradicting yourself here.

First you say that you're not suspecting Kat, you're suspecting me for sayng that it's next to impossible for her to be teamed with Lenny.

Then you're saying you "changed your mind" (suggesting that you were suspecting her) and it looks "a little good" she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons....

do you think i cleared kat or something?

or that i was merely saying that i can't town read her push day 1 on wish?

perhaps you think not suspecting someone at a given moment is equivalent to town reading them?

whatever the case is.

i am more suspicious of you than I am of kat.

Sili, are you actually reading what I'm saying or are you choosing to ignore it?

I already said, we're not talking about D1. We're talking about D2.

Based on D2 do you actually think that Kat and Wish could be partners?

Lizabeth · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 2:54 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:52 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:47 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

i've seen many people bus more than that. it's hardly unlikely. in fact it depends a lot on the person and the context. =/

i might come to the same conclusion as you, but i'd go about it a different way.

Under what circumstances have you seen someone bus?

Kat wanted Niniel dead from early D1 but then suddenly shifts to go after Lenny when Lenny wasn't in danger otherwise. You're telling me that you expect her to bus that way?

god, so many.

i've seen wolves break ties in favor of town just for perks. i've seen wolves go at each other like hounds all day in a thunderdome. i've seen some wolves actively bus weaker members cannibal style.

Those scenarios are all very different from what happened on D2 between Kat and Wish.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:43 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:39 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:36 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:52 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:49 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/12/2016 at 4:50 PM, BFG said:

Ok Liz, would love your opinion on Chris when you have time as well :)

Have fun!

I'm leaning town on him right now. But I've never seen him play town other than in a weirdly setup turbo.

The last two games I played with him, I thought he sounded ridiculously town, but I was holding back on a full town read on him because there was something that felt missing - I kept feeling like he'd have more "bite" as town than he did. Especially in his reactions to certain players/arguments. It's what kept me from protecting him in Mario Karts when I was the doc.

In this game I'm seeing more of the "bite" that I'd expect. And I don't know that he'd seem as genuinely frustrated as he has been this game if he were scum. But I don't know for sure. So it's an (always) tentative town read for me. I feel more comfortable calling him likely town this game than I did in the other two games.

tl;dr he is acting funny but you still think he is town.

you are very verbose.

How is he acting funny?

I said that he's acting more like I'd expect him to act as town this game, and that's why I'm reading him as more likely town than not.

And yes, I am very verbose. You're not the first person to point this out.

I bolded the parts I equated to funny.

Are you generally verbose or more verbose this game?

1. How are those things funny?

2. You've met me before

I unfortunately don't remember.

Funny in the figurative loose sense. acting 'funny', as in different.

You don't remember tangoing with me in Mafia Karts? Should I be incredulous or insulted?

As for the "acting funny" part, if anything he was "acting funny" to me in the previous two games, which is why I was less comfortable with my town read in those games than I am now. It would/should be hard for you to have missed the fact that Chris and I are close friends outside the game and I know him pretty well and have talked to him pretty extensively about his approach to mafia and his history in mafia. So yes, calm Chris leans more scum to me (especially after the past two games) whereas aggressive Chris leads more town. He'll never be a 100% town read to me because I know what he can do. You choosing to describe it as "Chris acting funny" is you putting words in my mouth.

i don't really care that much about the specifics. you said clov was town but you weren't sure, agreed?

good.

Lizabeth · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 2:58 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:43 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:39 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:36 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:52 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:49 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/12/2016 at 4:50 PM, BFG said:

Ok Liz, would love your opinion on Chris when you have time as well :)

Have fun!

I'm leaning town on him right now. But I've never seen him play town other than in a weirdly setup turbo.

The last two games I played with him, I thought he sounded ridiculously town, but I was holding back on a full town read on him because there was something that felt missing - I kept feeling like he'd have more "bite" as town than he did. Especially in his reactions to certain players/arguments. It's what kept me from protecting him in Mario Karts when I was the doc.

In this game I'm seeing more of the "bite" that I'd expect. And I don't know that he'd seem as genuinely frustrated as he has been this game if he were scum. But I don't know for sure. So it's an (always) tentative town read for me. I feel more comfortable calling him likely town this game than I did in the other two games.

tl;dr he is acting funny but you still think he is town.

you are very verbose.

How is he acting funny?

I said that he's acting more like I'd expect him to act as town this game, and that's why I'm reading him as more likely town than not.

And yes, I am very verbose. You're not the first person to point this out.

I bolded the parts I equated to funny.

Are you generally verbose or more verbose this game?

1. How are those things funny?

2. You've met me before

I unfortunately don't remember.

Funny in the figurative loose sense. acting 'funny', as in different.

You don't remember tangoing with me in Mafia Karts? Should I be incredulous or insulted?

As for the "acting funny" part, if anything he was "acting funny" to me in the previous two games, which is why I was less comfortable with my town read in those games than I am now. It would/should be hard for you to have missed the fact that Chris and I are close friends outside the game and I know him pretty well and have talked to him pretty extensively about his approach to mafia and his history in mafia. So yes, calm Chris leans more scum to me (especially after the past two games) whereas aggressive Chris leads more town. He'll never be a 100% town read to me because I know what he can do. You choosing to describe it as "Chris acting funny" is you putting words in my mouth.

i don't really care that much about the specifics. you said clov was town but you weren't sure, agreed?

good.

I've pretty clearly said that Chris is in my "never fully trust ever" category as a player but I feel better about reading him as town this game than I did in the past. That's what I said.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 2:54 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:45 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:42 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

The assumption bussing doesn't happen is bs. I ain't even suspecting kat here. I'm suspecting you for thinking 'it's next to impossible'.

As far as nin is concerned however, as far as i understand the situation niniel's wagon was dropping and wish's was the only other competitive wagon with seph's.

hm.

i changed my mind a little.

to be precise it looks a little good she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons.

We're talking about D2 here, not D1.

And you're contradicting yourself here.

First you say that you're not suspecting Kat, you're suspecting me for sayng that it's next to impossible for her to be teamed with Lenny.

Then you're saying you "changed your mind" (suggesting that you were suspecting her) and it looks "a little good" she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons....

do you think i cleared kat or something?

or that i was merely saying that i can't town read her push day 1 on wish?

perhaps you think not suspecting someone at a given moment is equivalent to town reading them?

whatever the case is.

i am more suspicious of you than I am of kat.

Sili, are you actually reading what I'm saying or are you choosing to ignore it?

I already said, we're not talking about D1. We're talking about D2.

Based on D2 do you actually think that Kat and Wish could be partners?

i was talking about day 1, except where it concerned your statement.

i have not talked about day 2 in detail in my own words for a reason. I don't know what i think yet. i just don't think the 'next to impossible' is a well considered statement considering what's been described so far.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 3:00 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:58 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:43 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:39 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:36 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:52 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:49 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/12/2016 at 4:50 PM, BFG said:

Ok Liz, would love your opinion on Chris when you have time as well :)

Have fun!

I'm leaning town on him right now. But I've never seen him play town other than in a weirdly setup turbo.

The last two games I played with him, I thought he sounded ridiculously town, but I was holding back on a full town read on him because there was something that felt missing - I kept feeling like he'd have more "bite" as town than he did. Especially in his reactions to certain players/arguments. It's what kept me from protecting him in Mario Karts when I was the doc.

In this game I'm seeing more of the "bite" that I'd expect. And I don't know that he'd seem as genuinely frustrated as he has been this game if he were scum. But I don't know for sure. So it's an (always) tentative town read for me. I feel more comfortable calling him likely town this game than I did in the other two games.

tl;dr he is acting funny but you still think he is town.

you are very verbose.

How is he acting funny?

I said that he's acting more like I'd expect him to act as town this game, and that's why I'm reading him as more likely town than not.

And yes, I am very verbose. You're not the first person to point this out.

I bolded the parts I equated to funny.

Are you generally verbose or more verbose this game?

1. How are those things funny?

2. You've met me before

I unfortunately don't remember.

Funny in the figurative loose sense. acting 'funny', as in different.

You don't remember tangoing with me in Mafia Karts? Should I be incredulous or insulted?

As for the "acting funny" part, if anything he was "acting funny" to me in the previous two games, which is why I was less comfortable with my town read in those games than I am now. It would/should be hard for you to have missed the fact that Chris and I are close friends outside the game and I know him pretty well and have talked to him pretty extensively about his approach to mafia and his history in mafia. So yes, calm Chris leans more scum to me (especially after the past two games) whereas aggressive Chris leads more town. He'll never be a 100% town read to me because I know what he can do. You choosing to describe it as "Chris acting funny" is you putting words in my mouth.

i don't really care that much about the specifics. you said clov was town but you weren't sure, agreed?

good.

I've pretty clearly said that Chris is in my "never fully trust ever" category as a player but I feel better about reading him as town this game than I did in the past. That's what I said.

yeah, great.

are you trying to be difficult? this has nothing to do with the core of my message.

i merely said you were verbose. it raised an eyebrow. about everything else i'd actually have no way of knowing whether it was a villagery conclusion or a wolfy conclusion from you.

Lizabeth · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 3:00 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:54 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:45 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:42 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

The assumption bussing doesn't happen is bs. I ain't even suspecting kat here. I'm suspecting you for thinking 'it's next to impossible'.

As far as nin is concerned however, as far as i understand the situation niniel's wagon was dropping and wish's was the only other competitive wagon with seph's.

hm.

i changed my mind a little.

to be precise it looks a little good she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons.

We're talking about D2 here, not D1.

And you're contradicting yourself here.

First you say that you're not suspecting Kat, you're suspecting me for sayng that it's next to impossible for her to be teamed with Lenny.

Then you're saying you "changed your mind" (suggesting that you were suspecting her) and it looks "a little good" she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons....

do you think i cleared kat or something?

or that i was merely saying that i can't town read her push day 1 on wish?

perhaps you think not suspecting someone at a given moment is equivalent to town reading them?

whatever the case is.

i am more suspicious of you than I am of kat.

Sili, are you actually reading what I'm saying or are you choosing to ignore it?

I already said, we're not talking about D1. We're talking about D2.

Based on D2 do you actually think that Kat and Wish could be partners?

i was talking about day 1, except where it concerned your statement.

i have not talked about day 2 in detail in my own words for a reason. I don't know what i think yet. i just don't think the 'next to impossible' is a well considered statement considering what's been described so far.

Sili....I...don't...even....

Sorry, I have to say it

W-T-F!

You're challenging me on a statement I made based on D2 by referencing your own thoughts about D1?

Seriously

WTF

(really trying not to get myself modkilled right now)

Lizabeth · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 3:02 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 3:00 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:58 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:43 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:39 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:36 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:52 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:49 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/12/2016 at 4:50 PM, BFG said:

Ok Liz, would love your opinion on Chris when you have time as well :)

Have fun!

I'm leaning town on him right now. But I've never seen him play town other than in a weirdly setup turbo.

The last two games I played with him, I thought he sounded ridiculously town, but I was holding back on a full town read on him because there was something that felt missing - I kept feeling like he'd have more "bite" as town than he did. Especially in his reactions to certain players/arguments. It's what kept me from protecting him in Mario Karts when I was the doc.

In this game I'm seeing more of the "bite" that I'd expect. And I don't know that he'd seem as genuinely frustrated as he has been this game if he were scum. But I don't know for sure. So it's an (always) tentative town read for me. I feel more comfortable calling him likely town this game than I did in the other two games.

tl;dr he is acting funny but you still think he is town.

you are very verbose.

How is he acting funny?

I said that he's acting more like I'd expect him to act as town this game, and that's why I'm reading him as more likely town than not.

And yes, I am very verbose. You're not the first person to point this out.

I bolded the parts I equated to funny.

Are you generally verbose or more verbose this game?

1. How are those things funny?

2. You've met me before

I unfortunately don't remember.

Funny in the figurative loose sense. acting 'funny', as in different.

You don't remember tangoing with me in Mafia Karts? Should I be incredulous or insulted?

As for the "acting funny" part, if anything he was "acting funny" to me in the previous two games, which is why I was less comfortable with my town read in those games than I am now. It would/should be hard for you to have missed the fact that Chris and I are close friends outside the game and I know him pretty well and have talked to him pretty extensively about his approach to mafia and his history in mafia. So yes, calm Chris leans more scum to me (especially after the past two games) whereas aggressive Chris leads more town. He'll never be a 100% town read to me because I know what he can do. You choosing to describe it as "Chris acting funny" is you putting words in my mouth.

i don't really care that much about the specifics. you said clov was town but you weren't sure, agreed?

good.

I've pretty clearly said that Chris is in my "never fully trust ever" category as a player but I feel better about reading him as town this game than I did in the past. That's what I said.

yeah, great.

are you trying to be difficult? this has nothing to do with the core of my message.

i merely said you were verbose. it raised an eyebrow. about everything else i'd actually have no way of knowing whether it was a villagery conclusion or a wolfy conclusion from you.

Oh my god.

Oh my god

Walking away now. Going to let other people weigh and maybe explain to you why you're the one who seems to be wanting to be difficult right now.

whether it's on purpose or because you're clueless right I'm not even going to try to figure out right now because I'm just shaking my head in awe

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 3:03 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 3:00 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:54 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:45 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:42 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

The assumption bussing doesn't happen is bs. I ain't even suspecting kat here. I'm suspecting you for thinking 'it's next to impossible'.

As far as nin is concerned however, as far as i understand the situation niniel's wagon was dropping and wish's was the only other competitive wagon with seph's.

hm.

i changed my mind a little.

to be precise it looks a little good she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons.

We're talking about D2 here, not D1.

And you're contradicting yourself here.

First you say that you're not suspecting Kat, you're suspecting me for sayng that it's next to impossible for her to be teamed with Lenny.

Then you're saying you "changed your mind" (suggesting that you were suspecting her) and it looks "a little good" she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons....

do you think i cleared kat or something?

or that i was merely saying that i can't town read her push day 1 on wish?

perhaps you think not suspecting someone at a given moment is equivalent to town reading them?

whatever the case is.

i am more suspicious of you than I am of kat.

Sili, are you actually reading what I'm saying or are you choosing to ignore it?

I already said, we're not talking about D1. We're talking about D2.

Based on D2 do you actually think that Kat and Wish could be partners?

i was talking about day 1, except where it concerned your statement.

i have not talked about day 2 in detail in my own words for a reason. I don't know what i think yet. i just don't think the 'next to impossible' is a well considered statement considering what's been described so far.

Sili....I...don't...even....

Sorry, I have to say it

W-T-F!

You're challenging me on a statement I made based on D2 by referencing your own thoughts about D1?

Seriously

WTF

(really trying not to get myself modkilled right now)

no. i references your thoughts and others' thoughts on day 2.

i said pretty much exactly that bussing happens.

then you conflated what i said about day 1 with what i said about day 2.

Katiora · June 13, 2016

Omg y'all the imbedded texts!!!! Please make it stop lol. I'm doing my best to stay semi caught up so tomorrow when I'm on a of I can sorta know what's going on! Please let me be able to actually read the thread lol

Katiora · June 13, 2016

GRRRR when I'm on a PC tomorrow. I HATE autocorrect

Hallia · June 13, 2016

Sure Liz :happy:

It started earlier when she misconstrued something I'd said. It continued when she said I would do something to the effect of telling people to stfu, which I would never. (even game related :laugh: ) instead I worked with them. I believe it was the Sili/Len fight. Thirdly it's tone, the way she was going with Zander.

alannalynn · June 13, 2016

I couldn't read this page because of the nested quotes, I'm only reading one letter per line. Can y'all..... not??

Hallys case with me was some comment I made about her jumping in the middle of a fight early in the game, I didn't like her joke but I admitted to misreading the context. She calls is misrepping tho.

She also doesn't like my perpetual catch up. Neither does lenlo. Apparently I post less as mafia or something.

Tbh, I'm more likely to compensate with more posts as mafia but that's just my own opinion. I've been overwhelmed and behind as town many times before.

Tonight is my last night of the week at work so this week should be good, activity wise, for me.

alannalynn · June 13, 2016

Or what Hally said lol

I don't think my tone has been bad?

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

gonna go about showing you what happened.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:32 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:38 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:07 AM, BFG said:

On 6/13/2016 at 1:05 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/8/2016 at 8:35 PM, Katiora said:
well at least it's someone in my bottom......

I still think Nin is Scum btw. Just seems that no one is going there and it's almost EoD. And really Wish's defense of her doesn't make me feel that much better about Wish.

[unvote]

[v]wishstork[/v]
I don't think I should townread this Bfg.

Why not?

I've been feeling better about Kat throughout Day 1 and she pushes Wistork Day 2 iirc. I remember Darthe(?)ointing some weird stuff out about her Day 2, but I'm not there yet in my reread

Well I don't know about anything else, but what I do know is that in lenlo, liz, lil, kat, and besie there is 3 wolves or so.

besie seems like town. lil kind of seems like town. and it seems like kat has seph as a strong townread there. Some wolves bus to avoid voting their strong town reads.

Knowing that Lenny was mafia makes it next to impossible that Kat was mafia with her. I'm pretty sure that Kat was the first one to go back to Lenny on D2 and start pointing out the patterns that other people weren't noticing. I know Chris did it too, I think Lily did it after Kat, but I'm pretty sure that Kat was the first one.

i took issue with 'next to impossible' considering the evidence laid out in this post.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:36 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:25 AM, Sili Quirrels said:
wish was just a goon too. i'm more than willing to forego the town cred if no one else get's credit they shouldn't.

What?

this ref's day 1.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

didn't know the last line was day 2 (?) but doesn't matter.

was caught later.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:42 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

The assumption bussing doesn't happen is bs. I ain't even suspecting kat here. I'm suspecting you for thinking 'it's next to impossible'.

As far as nin is concerned however, as far as i understand the situation niniel's wagon was dropping and wish's was the only other competitive wagon with seph's.

hm.

i changed my mind a little.

to be precise it looks a little good she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons.

first line ref's bussing in general, addresses day 2 business.

lines after that are about day 1.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:43 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:39 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:36 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:24 AM, Sili Quirrels said:
i guess that might be considered a wolfy comment by lilly, but it seemed so natural to me lol

Why?

On 6/13/2016 at 2:36 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:25 AM, Sili Quirrels said:
wish was just a goon too. i'm more than willing to forego the town cred if no one else get's credit they shouldn't.

What?

we know wolves have at least one pr.

it would make sense if they had 2.

wish is just a goon. easy to justify bussing a goon depending on team comp and your own thread stances.

That reasoning would make sense IF Wish were in danger of being lynched at that point. But she wasn't, if I'm recalling correctly -- I actually saved all the vote count posts so I can look back at this for sure, but I remember making a note that it was highly unlikely that Kat and Lenny could be scumbuddies based on the timing of Kat's flip of the attention onto Wish. It's ridiculous to think that a mafia member would sacrifice any team member like that when they didn't have to, when that scum partner was nearly lynched the day before and turning attention to them when other people were up to lynched could get them close to a lynch again.

I didn't get the impression that DM was a site where people bussed partners just for the sake of bussing...

i was referencing day 1.

you i think reference day 2 here thinking i was talking about the same thing as you.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:47 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

i've seen many people bus more than that. it's hardly unlikely. in fact it depends a lot on the person and the context. =/

i might come to the same conclusion as you, but i'd go about it a different way.

referencing bussing in general.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:45 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:42 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

The assumption bussing doesn't happen is bs. I ain't even suspecting kat here. I'm suspecting you for thinking 'it's next to impossible'.

As far as nin is concerned however, as far as i understand the situation niniel's wagon was dropping and wish's was the only other competitive wagon with seph's.

hm.

i changed my mind a little.

to be precise it looks a little good she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons.

We're talking about D2 here, not D1.

And you're contradicting yourself here.

First you say that you're not suspecting Kat, you're suspecting me for sayng that it's next to impossible for her to be teamed with Lenny.

Then you're saying you "changed your mind" (suggesting that you were suspecting her) and it looks "a little good" she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons....

do you think i cleared kat or something?

or that i was merely saying that i can't town read her push day 1 on wish?

perhaps you think not suspecting someone at a given moment is equivalent to town reading them?

whatever the case is.

i am more suspicious of you than I am of kat.

i am merely saying and supporting rhetorically that there is no contradiction.

this really has nothing to do with day 1 but rather my statements about it and about kat by association.

On 6/13/2016 at 2:54 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:50 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:45 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:42 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lizabeth said:

On 6/13/2016 at 2:34 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

'next to impossible'

You know something about kat's personality i don't?

Why would she draw attention to a scum partner when attention had moved away from her scum partner?

why point out things that other people weren't noticing when people were gearing up to lynch one of two townies?

Why would she unvote Niniel BEFORE Niniel made her claim in order to vote for a scum partner?

The assumption bussing doesn't happen is bs. I ain't even suspecting kat here. I'm suspecting you for thinking 'it's next to impossible'.

As far as nin is concerned however, as far as i understand the situation niniel's wagon was dropping and wish's was the only other competitive wagon with seph's.

hm.

i changed my mind a little.

to be precise it looks a little good she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons.

We're talking about D2 here, not D1.

And you're contradicting yourself here.

First you say that you're not suspecting Kat, you're suspecting me for sayng that it's next to impossible for her to be teamed with Lenny.

Then you're saying you "changed your mind" (suggesting that you were suspecting her) and it looks "a little good" she didn't keep her vote on nin to spread out the wagons....

do you think i cleared kat or something?

or that i was merely saying that i can't town read her push day 1 on wish?

perhaps you think not suspecting someone at a given moment is equivalent to town reading them?

whatever the case is.

i am more suspicious of you than I am of kat.

Sili, are you actually reading what I'm saying or are you choosing to ignore it?

I already said, we're not talking about D1. We're talking about D2.

Based on D2 do you actually think that Kat and Wish could be partners?

day 1 really has no business being here. you're just thinking in a straightforward way, while i'm thinking along different lines at the same time.

these are arguments, all seperate.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

basic straightforward instance of mutlitple arguments happening at the same time and people getting confused about what the other person meant.

Cory Caboose · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 12:42 AM, BFG said:

Yuck

Key can I edit the formatting in the above post?

You may

- "Key"

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 3:08 AM, Hallia said:

Sure Liz

It started earlier when she misconstrued something I'd said. It continued when she said I would do something to the effect of telling people to stfu, which I would never. (even game related ) instead I worked with them. I believe it was the Sili/Len fight. Thirdly it's tone, the way she was going with Zander.

if you could quote a few posts, i might be interested.

alannalynn · June 13, 2016

Sili my Iso is only 5 pages :)

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

this is why i hate mafia. i care way more than other ppl do.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 3:23 AM, alannalynn said:
Sili my Iso is only 5 pages :)

i'm lazy and i have no real reason to suspect you yet.

but hallia's town and there is a chance she saw something i didn't. i can't trust my judgement about you besides.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

i care way way too much about settling the conflict with liz positively. in part because i used a bad word once out of frustration.

but i'm tired of taking the fall, and ill say something a lot worse if i stay, so ill leave and not come back to this.

i am suspicious of her because of her 'this is obvious stance', even while she's established that she is cautious of other players like chris. i read her comments and didn't think there was a lot there that was more compelling than i knew. i have seen many wolves bus for sustained periods, so my standards are pretty high, and that's why i merely suspect liz for tmi and it's not a fullblown read that i'm ready to commit to.

incidentally, if kat voted wish before nin's claim when nin was at 7 votes - that's not particularly indicative.

liz mentioned that i think, but i thought she meant something else.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

rereading it...

yes, i was clear enough.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

'it' being page 232.

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