[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Guest]

which means you'll be dead either by lynch or by nk - right? so WWWHYYYYYY

[Niniel]

To keep the doc alive? Doh!

[Darthe]

^ woof

[Darthe]

Besie, that is

[Niniel]

Yup.

[Guest]

and why is that, darthe?

[Katiora]

So some of the votes on Nin have bothered me. Some more than others. 

 

The biggest thing really bothering me... like... a lot... Has anyone else noticed how Wish is sheeping the popular vote every time?? 

 

Ok SOOOO day1. 

 

She goes after Zander all day... Even compliments Lainey on her vote, but never votes herself. I don't think it ever gets over 2 votes on him. MAYBE it got to 3. But he was her scummiest all day long. 

 

Goes with Majority vote for pretty much no reason. 

Votes Seph. (seph dies is VT) 

 

Today - She was soooo sure yesterday that Nin was town. But now.. Nin's the Easy vote. Votes Nin for idk why. And some of her comments... 

 

 

 

wish-tree, on 07 Jun 2016 - 9:48 PM, said:

This is a post about zander.. then never followed through... went to Seph.. Zander wasn't a Viable option any more.. and he died that night so... no biggie for her if she couldn't lynch him during the day. I think he had her number and she knew it.

 

alannalynn, on 07 Jun 2016 - 9:45 PM, said:

good vote

Unvote

 

Vote: Zander

 

I'm asking Stork to make the deciding vote atm tho b/c I might be completely biased against Zander, and I want a second eye 

 

just imagine that there's a huge piano labeled vote dangling above Zander's head

 

gngn <3

 

 

wish-tree, on 10 Jun 2016 - 05:41 AM, said:

 

Lenlo town town town, frustration probably real. I think he genuinely believed at EOD that the arguments against stork and me were baseless, and yeah, the problem I primarily had with him was the shift between him reading us as slightly scummy to having no problems with our slot.

After ISO, it looks like a few important things should be noted: he became caught up in the argument with sili, got extremely frustrated and thought that sili was intending to shade him on purpose, so moved sili down in his town circle. Chris, you're right, in retrospect his move of sili out of his town core makes sense, even if it's slightly OMGUS.

What bothered me yesterday about the move was that Lenlo at one point thought that sili was still town and thought he could be wrong because he was blinded by their argument, but still persisted in the fight.

However, last night, after the Hallia and Sili spat, both Lenlo and Sili have calmed down and been more open to reason, which I think is good for both of them. I don't think that the Lenlo/sili or the Hallia/Sili fights could have ever been staged.

Lenlo's continued frustration with dice misrepping his arguments or thought processes also feels genuine to me.

I'm not sure what this is. You notice she doesn't really town anyone there though... everything just feels "genuine" 

 

wish-tree, on 10 Jun 2016 - 05:49 AM, said:

This is crazy... no reason to believe dice... Key made it where claiming doesn't really mean crap unless you are PR.. Anyone can claim Vanilla Town with any band. Not sure if she's pocketing or trying to help dice out.. if you know what i mean. 

I think I believe dice.

 

wish-tree, on 10 Jun 2016 - 06:09 AM, said:

Passing out again, too sleepy. Please answer my questions, but leaving my vote on niniel now that I am more confident in Lenlo being town, and I think dice's claim makes sense.

Lenlo's right, niniel linking together him and me is suspect especially if she doesn't reevaluate after his explanation of why he voted in that way.

Also, returning to my original reads before I got all tunnely on seph:

Niniel/Blessie/Hallia/?

I need to look into bfg, Chris, Liz, and Lily, I think I've been reading them as town for entrance/interaction/how they've treated me reasons, don't think that these reads are as solid as they could be.

Dice gets a one day pass for the claim. Lenlo also needs to get out of his sili spat and step it up tomorrow.

 

Never saw her as that tunnely on seph... I mean.. you just didn't agree with him... you've done this with every thing you've gotten in with anyone.. No one seems to really understand your arguments with them. Zander didn't... seph didn't... your case on Nin doesn't... ehhhhhhhhh i just can't... 

 

wish-tree, on 10 Jun 2016 - 06:10 AM, said:

And I didn't even vote niniel...

Okay loll

Vote: niniel

 

And then the vote.. i don't like it...

 

 

I have been hard core after Nin since yesterday and only got off to vote wish cause I didn't see seph as scum, but I can't vote Nin right now. I can't... I think we need to cut the head off the Hydra.... 

 

Vote: wistork

 

 

and I've tried fixin formatting on this post like 3 times... this is as good as it's gonna get. 

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Niniel (6) - Sili, Hallia, Wistork, Lenlo, Clov, Besie

Lenlo (2) - Niniel, dice

Dice (1) - BFG

Besie (1) - Darthe

Wistork (1) - Katiora

 

 

Not Voting (3) - Lily, Alanna, Lizabeth,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

NINIEL IS AT L-2.

 

Deadline: Friday, June 10, 4:30pm CDT

 

On mobile. Will have links later.

[Katiora]

 

[unvote]

What? Haven't you been pushing her all game?

 

I posted... just took a while... didn't want anyone to hammer while I was making my case... 

[Katiora]

grrrrr crazy dm formatting took off my red for some reason... 

 

[v]wistork[/v]

[Katiora]

btw I hate Nin's claim... 

[Lizabeth]

 

 

I think I believe dice.

Why?

The flavour of his claim. He's been softing it since d1.

 

 

What's the flavour of his claim?

 

(ftfy by the way )

[Lizabeth]

Besie votes are the best votes, folks

Why?

[Darthe]

grrrrr crazy dm formatting took off my red for some reason...

 

[v]wistork[/v]

Really

[Lizabeth]

 

1. I was testing a theory, not trying to get her lynched (yet). But me leaving my vote on her without being around at end of day to shift it if necessary could have led to me accidentally helping lynch her.

 

2. Last night I was trying to catch up on D1 and then trying to get caught up on D2 before going to bed. If there's a particular question you want me to respond to, why don't you do what BFG did and ask me again? I only have so much time for catch up so I'm trying to focus my energies where I think they'll be most productive. Coming through the night thread (still don't understand the night thread thing...) was not my priority.

Because it's not a single question that I wanted an answer to. It's an entire post I wanted to see how you would react to.

 

If I weren't on my phone, I'd pull it up, but forget that. Just editing the quotes out of this took two minutes.

 

Okay. If I have time when I finish my lunch and read I'll look it up now. Otherwise it will have to wait until tonight. I know you don't forget anything, so I'm sure you'll remind me if I forget :P

 

Or you could just find it for me and that would be easier :)

[Guest]

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Niniel (7) - Hallia, Zander, Clov, Katiora, alannalynn, Sili , Lenlo

Seph (4) - Darthe, Wistork, Besie, dice,

Zander (1) - Niniel, 

Liz (1) - Seph

 

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth,

 

Niniel is at L-2. 

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. 

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

 

 

 

Niniel, why didn't you claim doc here?

[Lizabeth]

 

 

Passing out again, too sleepy. Please answer my questions, but leaving my vote on niniel now that I am more confident in Lenlo being town, and I think dice's claim makes sense.

 

Lenlo's right, niniel linking together him and me is suspect especially if she doesn't reevaluate after his explanation of why he voted in that way.

 

Also, returning to my original reads before I got all tunnely on seph:

 

Niniel/Blessie/Hallia/?

 

I need to look into bfg, Chris, Liz, and Lily, I think I've been reading them as town for entrance/interaction/how they've treated me reasons, don't think that these reads are as solid as they could be.

 

Dice gets a one day pass for the claim. Lenlo also needs to get out of his sili spat and step it up tomorrow.

I'll admit that I haven't looked at Hallia particularly in depth recently, mostly because I haven't felt I've needed to. I said that my key to reading her is consistency - not that she can't / doesn't evolve reads, but just a prolonged sense of actuslly wanting to solve and trying to get her suspects lynched.

 

What is standing out to you as that scummy? I'm not sure I get to a point where I want to lynch her this game, so that's a really bad read to me.

 

And how doed her being mafia fit with you saying that the fight with Sili isn't fake?

Her EOD defense of Seph and then backing off when she realized it was too late. Sure, she defended seph earlier, but when it came down to the crucial moment, she only showed up to vote me when Zander asked her for her vote, and instead of strongly defending a town read, she seemed to give up. I have done the same exact behavior regarding penny/Celeste, so I can't just let this go. There feels like some amount of tmi in her defense also, because even though she might be a gut player, there is at least some amount she can explain.

 

Sili and her not feeling fake is because I don't think they can be teamed, so the argument wouldn't have been set up deliberately, I think Sili had a genuine problem with her read and I like that from him.

 

In my read-through, Hallia was indicating that she was willing to switch her vote to you from way earlier. She wanted Niniel dead but had you as a possible second. So I don't see that as her not trying to get someone other than one of her town reads lynched.

 

I didn't even see the argument between Hally and Sili. What was it about?

[Guest]

imho, if you were really doc, niniel, you would have claimed it when you were just as far into the lynch during d1. feeling regret that i didn't vote you d1 already.

 

were you so sure that you weren't going to be lynched? how many of the people that weren't on you, and later moved, were scum? because obviously they saved you.

[Guest]

being frustrated. ignore my tone

[wish-tree]

btw I hate Nin's claim... 

You hate the claim, yet you aren't voting her? Not sure if there's something wrong with that... hm

 

also, addressing your post. 

[Katiora]

Please for the love of town people unvote Nin and look at the ones that piled on her early and stayed and late.... of all the people to post this... i should have been one of the last you expected. lol I feel sooooooo stupid right now. 

[Katiora]

 

btw I hate Nin's claim... 

You hate the claim, yet you aren't voting her? Not sure if there's something wrong with that... hm

 

also, addressing your post. 

 

Yep... bad claim for a doc... but i understand she'd rather be NK'd then lynched.. at least we have a chance at getting more info with another lynch... 

 

 

And please feel free... get your friend besie to join in while you're at it... ya'll are on my crap list lol 

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

I think I believe dice.

Why?

The flavour of his claim. He's been softing it since d1.

 

 

What's the flavour of his claim?

 

(ftfy by the way )

 

nvm..... lollll

 

I thought Nirvana was a girl band *facepalm*

 

my own flavor and seph's are girl bands, so... lol

[Katiora]

Btw i'll vote Besie and/or Wish today... either, or... Doesn't matter to me 

[Lizabeth]

Official Vote Count:

 

Niniel (7) - Besie, Katiora, Sili, Hallia, Wistork, Lenlo, Clov

Lenlo (2) - Niniel, dice

Dice (1) - BFG

Besie (1) - Darthe

 

 

Not Voting (3) -  Lily, Alanna, Lizabeth,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. 

 

NINIEL IS AT L-1.

 

Deadline: Friday, June 10, 4:30pm CDT

 

 

If people think that Dice and Niniel are teamed, why are we running up Niniel with no counterwagon on Dice?

 

[v]Dice[/v]