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wish-tree · June 9, 2016

Oops almost flooded the house again, bbl

Lenlo · June 9, 2016

I'd like to look into Lwnlo today as well. Yesterday when I asked him for a reads list, he provided one with me on it that had me as slightly scummy, but when asked to vote me, he said he hadn't had problems with our slot, so didn't vote me and preferred Seph. I'd have less of a problem with this if he said something that reflected the state of his reads at that time, that he had us both as scummy but wanted Seph more.

Also, him leaving out Sili from the town circle of Hallia and Zander is not great. Hallia's defense of Seph minutes before EOD and then her giving up on him instead of calling out for my lunch if she really thought I was a wolf trying to lunch seph, just bothered me a lot. Stork and I got the chance to talk about that much earlier in our time together.

Sure she may have defended him since the beginning, but when the time came that actually mattered, when she felt so strongly about him, why was she not kicking and screaming that he was town and that I needed to die?

am i really that obvious that you feel like you can pocket me like that?

i.. don't know how to take it.

lenlo's had me as a vague wtl this bro every since i took him to the wall and almost hung him up.

Afew reasons im taking him out.

1) I dont think hes obvious town.

Oh wait? Thats the only reason I need.

Also you never almost hung me up. You got 3 votes. Never more then 4. Sooo... Yeah. Keep tryin.

LilyElizabeth · June 9, 2016

ISO (sort of) Lenlo

Ive never been offended by Sili. Only frustrated. Incredibly frustrated.

Welcome to phone thoughts. this was completed over the course of 20-30 minutes on a phone. Have fun.

Not Ordered

1. Darthe - Middle of PoE. Do something super towny or super wolfy. I just want you to move somewhere on the ladder
2. Thane Vakarian - Absent
3. BFG - Towny. I questioned her Seph/Laine post because I was curious, not because I thought it was wolfy. Gettin that BS out of the way now
4. Hallia - Town.
5. Zander - Posted alot, my eyes glazed over alot of his big quotes. Whats the case against him Clov? I remember you having one, mentioning he has an effort difference between me and Niniel. Null leaning town
6. Sili Quirrels - God... I really want to call him wolf but I cant tell if thats more my incredible frustration with him and his godforsaken attitude or because hes been wolfy. His argument against me is crap and so is how he treated it. I left to calm down earlier today and wouldnt fight lynching Niniel instead, cause it will give me to to figure out if its frustration or legit.
7. Katiora - Floating around alot. Null leaning town?
8. dicetosser1 - Null. Posts but remember nothing important. Last post of his I remember was like... pg 20 or somethign
9. Lenlo - Hi
10. Niniel - Wolfy
11. Clovdyx - Town
12. Seph - Wheres he been lately? Timezones? Theres not as much energy here as what I saw last game, only other game with him. Call him wolfy.
13. LilyElizabeth - Again need more. She says shes confused where teh thread is going? Either her or Lizabeth said that I think. Null
14. Wishtree/Stork hydra - Wistork - Stork doesnt exist, Wish is asking alot of questions but not really following up on anything that matters imo. Looks like alot of busy work. Null to slightly wolfy.
15. alannalynn - Leaning Town. I disagree with some of her reads naturally, but shes trying and the posts she makes dont have problems
16. Lizabeth - Want more. I dont even remember posts from her

Twisting is frankly a stupid argument in mafia games like 90% of the time.

There's no inflection or body language, most of us don't know one another and we are all trying to either trick or judge one another. Good luck avoiding different perspectives

Yeah but some meanings or more likely then others, so when you start presenting it as one of the least likely ones, theres a problem.

Hallia or Zander ain't getting shot tonight or lynched tomorrow if I can help it. They are the towniest people in this game.

I included the reads list that Nini had mentioned and his being adamant on Hally and Zander being town.

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Honestly, I struggled with this ISO, because of all the argument with Sili. If you take that out, Len doesn't have a lot of content that I could find. Or maybe my eyes just glazed over from all the back and forth with Sili. Not sure where to go with Lenlo. Slight scum, maybe. I'd like to find someone I feel stronger about, honestly.

LilyElizabeth · June 9, 2016

I'm going to take a shower, then look at Dice.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

I'd like to look into Lwnlo today as well. Yesterday when I asked him for a reads list, he provided one with me on it that had me as slightly scummy, but when asked to vote me, he said he hadn't had problems with our slot, so didn't vote me and preferred Seph. I'd have less of a problem with this if he said something that reflected the state of his reads at that time, that he had us both as scummy but wanted Seph more.

Also, him leaving out Sili from the town circle of Hallia and Zander is not great. Hallia's defense of Seph minutes before EOD and then her giving up on him instead of calling out for my lunch if she really thought I was a wolf trying to lunch seph, just bothered me a lot. Stork and I got the chance to talk about that much earlier in our time together.

Sure she may have defended him since the beginning, but when the time came that actually mattered, when she felt so strongly about him, why was she not kicking and screaming that he was town and that I needed to die?

am i really that obvious that you feel like you can pocket me like that?

i.. don't know how to take it.

lenlo's had me as a vague wtl this bro every since i took him to the wall and almost hung him up.

Afew reasons im taking him out.

1) I dont think hes obvious town.

Oh wait? Thats the only reason I need.

Also you never almost hung me up. You got 3 votes. Never more then 4. Sooo... Yeah. Keep tryin.

I could have gotten seph to vote you too. With seph that's 5. I could have. Engrave fear into your soul imo.

Lenlo · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

Katiora · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

Honestly lenlo right now I've been reading ISO's and I don't think I'll vote you today. It's a gut feel of something I think could be. It's gonna take one heck of a case to change my mind.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

muhaha

but seriously that and no ones gonna care probably makes you a wolf.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

i'm just you know... saying bro. i can't help you if you're actually evil.

Katiora · June 9, 2016

So I ISO'd Zander So who did he accuse last night...

For BFG EYES ONLY

You think Chris and Liz could be Scummates together...

Ok So here Zander Tinfoils Clov and Liz

Lily/Lenbot could make sense.

Here he says it could be Lily and Wish

Is this a serious question?
Yes. I'm not reading the thousand posts you have to see what the hell you're thinking, certainly not when I think you're wrong.

Wish push on both me and seph

Her linking us together

Her association reads and reads based on punctuation.

Her forced air of conifdence on believing she had 2 lock wolves d1.

Her dont take things personal quote to seph.

Soft claim hinting.

Just off the top of my head.

Nina sheeping BFG comment, her sheeping sephs Zander posting pointless question to vote me.

No re evaluation.

Vague thin reads.

Being around doing nothing but hinting at soft claim then bailing when the vote swings away from here.

Again just off the top of my head.

Here is his reasoning for NinaScum

Let's say I trust you, Zander... who is mafia?

Prolly Wish and or Nina atp.

He thinks WIsh and/or Nina is scum

FINAL DAY 1 Vote Count:

Seph (6) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork, Lenlo, Lily
Wistork (5) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia, Katiora
Lenlo (4) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov, BFG

Not Voting (1) - Lizabeth,

SEPH HAS BEEN LYNCHED. Write up coming momentarily!
Hmmmmm

Where the heck was Liza?

My vote was supposed to be on Seph. I don't know why it wasn't. And I was at work.

I read your ISO you never voted seph.

You said he was your top Scum read tho.

He was my top scum read and I intended to vote for him and thought I did. I'll have to go back.

I put in [v]Vote Seph[/v]

or I thought i did

For my own personal lololololol's im gonna say voting a dead Townie is wolfy....

Thinks Liz putting a vote on the already dead towny is wolfy... Not sure I agree with him, but I can see what he means... I don't know Liz well enough to tinfoil on her for this lol

Nin, wish, idk
Nobody has once been willing to explain to me how wish = wolf

There's just so much that she says that just doesn't make sense. Like the punctuation thing with me. The Zander null meta. Her overreaction at Seph's being town. Her laine soul read.

It's hard for me to believe someone that's not a newb saying some of the stuff she does. I think she's convienently ditzy and it doesn't sit well with me.

She tried to derp clear in the Mash as well.

And a point he made about Wish derping clear in the past...

Ok... So the reason I ISO'd Zander was I was trying to figure out who had the most to gain from him dying. So yesterday he blatantly told Wish "I'm going after you today" afterwhich he said he was going to lynch her and she said he'd probably live so that he would mislynch her.

I'm usually really right or really off on day 1 reads

i was so sold this time around that I was never changing

I'm going to talk to stork when he wakes up and he can call me an idiot meh >.<

Do w/e you want....if Im alive tomorrow im sending you straight to the grave.

Probably means that you're going to be kept alive so that you can mislynch me tomorrow :/

The question here is... Did she say this knowing they were going to NK him and she'd be fine.. but this would kinda look like she was all towny...

IDK

I've always had wish as a little bit scummy. or at least not very towny. I think she's a bit too Derp to be plausible about some of it and she has a history of derp-clearing as mafia.

On the the next: Nin

This was one of Zander's other big calls, and you can see by the Post Night, morning posts that this was the one that resonated with everyone else. I definitely think it could be possible for Nin and Wish to be scummates. They have soft defended each other... no "oh she's definitely town" but they've both... I'm not sure but they FEEL more town than scum. Something that's not condemning but doesn't really link them together either. And they're on opposite sides of the posting spectrum. Wish has a lot.. Nin has almost none lol... I could get this and I think that this is what Zander would have pushed today most likely.

The problem is... Anyone could tell that by his posts that this is probably what zander would have pushed this morning. Did he die to keep from pushing it, so that they could throw shade and get off or did he die to give zander a better case so we would push it?

So if not them who?

I've already given my opinion on how Besie was quiet until Zander died... then posted a good bit, but with her coming in so late in D1 it's really hard to judge.. COULD be coincidence.

He was pretty hot on Dice some yesterday. So Zander dying and us trying to lynch Nin and Wish would throw heat off of him.

Gah the problem is it could be anyone that's not Wish and Nin.

Honestly I think i'll end up voting one of them. I honestly think if one clears the other will look SLIGHTLY better. but not clear. And right now i'm more for Nin...

I still think it could be Nin, WIsh, Besie lol but idk.. I could definitely be wrong.

Liz could also be in on it... He was one of the strongest against her yesterday afternoon.

What are ya'lls thoughts?

/end superwordylong post

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

Honestly lenlo right now I've been reading ISO's and I don't think I'll vote you today. It's a gut feel of something I think could be. It's gonna take one heck of a case to change my mind.

don't feed his ego.

also, why?

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

So I ISO'd Zander So who did he accuse last night...

For BFG EYES ONLY

You think Chris and Liz could be Scummates together...

Ok So here Zander Tinfoils Clov and Liz

Lily/Lenbot could make sense.

Here he says it could be Lily and Wish

Is this a serious question?
Yes. I'm not reading the thousand posts you have to see what the hell you're thinking, certainly not when I think you're wrong.

Wish push on both me and seph

Her linking us together

Her association reads and reads based on punctuation.

Her forced air of conifdence on believing she had 2 lock wolves d1.

Her dont take things personal quote to seph.

Soft claim hinting.

Just off the top of my head.

Nina sheeping BFG comment, her sheeping sephs Zander posting pointless question to vote me.

No re evaluation.

Vague thin reads.

Being around doing nothing but hinting at soft claim then bailing when the vote swings away from here.

Again just off the top of my head.

Here is his reasoning for NinaScum

Let's say I trust you, Zander... who is mafia?

Prolly Wish and or Nina atp.

He thinks WIsh and/or Nina is scum

FINAL DAY 1 Vote Count:

Seph (6) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork, Lenlo, Lily

Wistork (5) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia, Katiora

Lenlo (4) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov, BFG

Not Voting (1) - Lizabeth,

SEPH HAS BEEN LYNCHED. Write up coming momentarily!

Hmmmmm

Where the heck was Liza?

My vote was supposed to be on Seph. I don't know why it wasn't. And I was at work.

I read your ISO you never voted seph.

You said he was your top Scum read tho.

He was my top scum read and I intended to vote for him and thought I did. I'll have to go back.

I put in [v]Vote Seph[/v]

or I thought i did

For my own personal lololololol's im gonna say voting a dead Townie is wolfy....

Thinks Liz putting a vote on the already dead towny is wolfy... Not sure I agree with him, but I can see what he means... I don't know Liz well enough to tinfoil on her for this lol

Nin, wish, idk
Nobody has once been willing to explain to me how wish = wolf

There's just so much that she says that just doesn't make sense. Like the punctuation thing with me. The Zander null meta. Her overreaction at Seph's being town. Her laine soul read.

It's hard for me to believe someone that's not a newb saying some of the stuff she does. I think she's convienently ditzy and it doesn't sit well with me.

She tried to derp clear in the Mash as well.

And a point he made about Wish derping clear in the past...

Ok... So the reason I ISO'd Zander was I was trying to figure out who had the most to gain from him dying. So yesterday he blatantly told Wish "I'm going after you today" afterwhich he said he was going to lynch her and she said he'd probably live so that he would mislynch her.

I'm usually really right or really off on day 1 reads

i was so sold this time around that I was never changing

I'm going to talk to stork when he wakes up and he can call me an idiot meh >.<

Do w/e you want....if Im alive tomorrow im sending you straight to the grave.

Probably means that you're going to be kept alive so that you can mislynch me tomorrow :/

The question here is... Did she say this knowing they were going to NK him and she'd be fine.. but this would kinda look like she was all towny...

IDK

I've always had wish as a little bit scummy. or at least not very towny. I think she's a bit too Derp to be plausible about some of it and she has a history of derp-clearing as mafia.

On the the next: Nin

This was one of Zander's other big calls, and you can see by the Post Night, morning posts that this was the one that resonated with everyone else. I definitely think it could be possible for Nin and Wish to be scummates. They have soft defended each other... no "oh she's definitely town" but they've both... I'm not sure but they FEEL more town than scum. Something that's not condemning but doesn't really link them together either. And they're on opposite sides of the posting spectrum. Wish has a lot.. Nin has almost none lol... I could get this and I think that this is what Zander would have pushed today most likely.

The problem is... Anyone could tell that by his posts that this is probably what zander would have pushed this morning. Did he die to keep from pushing it, so that they could throw shade and get off or did he die to give zander a better case so we would push it?

So if not them who?

I've already given my opinion on how Besie was quiet until Zander died... then posted a good bit, but with her coming in so late in D1 it's really hard to judge.. COULD be coincidence.

He was pretty hot on Dice some yesterday. So Zander dying and us trying to lynch Nin and Wish would throw heat off of him.

Gah the problem is it could be anyone that's not Wish and Nin.

Honestly I think i'll end up voting one of them. I honestly think if one clears the other will look SLIGHTLY better. but not clear. And right now i'm more for Nin...

I still think it could be Nin, WIsh, Besie lol but idk.. I could definitely be wrong.

Liz could also be in on it... He was one of the strongest against her yesterday afternoon.

What are ya'lls thoughts?

/end superwordylong post

lot of ifs.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

i usually don't like it when villagers try to follow a game plan like you just did and waste a whole bunch of time on nothing just to appear like they're working, but if you usually do this sort of thing and you actually feel its important ill give you a pass.

as for dice, probably.

Hallia · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

muhaha

but seriously that and no ones gonna care probably makes you a wolf.

Didn't people say that crap about Seph yesterday near end of Day?

Katiora · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.
Honestly lenlo right now I've been reading ISO's and I don't think I'll vote you today. It's a gut feel of something I think could be. It's gonna take one heck of a case to change my mind.
don't feed his ego.

also, why?

Guttish reasoning.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

muhaha

but seriously that and no ones gonna care probably makes you a wolf.

Didn't people say that crap about Seph yesterday near end of Day?

idk i stopped paying attention.

i'm just saying 'and no one's gonna care' why say that?

he's not on the chopping block. why is he emo?

seems to me to just be a statement to guilt me or guilt others or emphasize his argument that he's town.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.
Honestly lenlo right now I've been reading ISO's and I don't think I'll vote you today. It's a gut feel of something I think could be. It's gonna take one heck of a case to change my mind.
don't feed his ego.

also, why?

Guttish reasoning.

that's pretty poor.

Hallia · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

muhaha

but seriously that and no ones gonna care probably makes you a wolf.

Didn't people say that crap about Seph yesterday near end of Day?

idk i stopped paying attention.

i'm just saying 'and no one's gonna care' why say that?

he's not on the chopping block. why is he emo?

seems to me to just be a statement to guilt me or guilt others or emphasize his argument that he's town.

People did

He was upset and people were saying the same stuff to him. That does not make him scum.

Kat I'm on the same page.

Katiora · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.
muhaha

but seriously that and no ones gonna care probably makes you a wolf.

Didn't people say that crap about Seph yesterday near end of Day?

idk i stopped paying attention.

i'm just saying 'and no one's gonna care' why say that?

he's not on the chopping block. why is he emo?

seems to me to just be a statement to guilt me or guilt others or emphasize his argument that he's town.

People did

He was upset and people were saying the same stuff to him. That does not make him scum.

Kat I'm on the same page.

Found that yesterday knew you'd understand.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

I am truly afraid, not for my life but for that of a town that trusts you. Cause your gonna get me lynched some day probably. And im gonna flip town. And no ones gonna care.

muhaha

but seriously that and no ones gonna care probably makes you a wolf.

Didn't people say that crap about Seph yesterday near end of Day?

idk i stopped paying attention.

i'm just saying 'and no one's gonna care' why say that?

he's not on the chopping block. why is he emo?

seems to me to just be a statement to guilt me or guilt others or emphasize his argument that he's town.

People did

He was upset and people were saying the same stuff to him. That does not make him scum.

Kat I'm on the same page.

Lenlo isn't upset.

Seph was on a chopping block.

Lenlo is not.

So you're just speaking nonsense to me right now.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

So people who think lenlo is town can't articulate why, and will clear him unless an ironclad case is presented.

Do I like exist in a different dimension or something?

because i don't like this. sort of sketches me out. At least learn to articulate such strong reads.

Hallia · June 9, 2016

There are quite a few who think he is scum, and have said so. I can see him thinking he could very likely be on the block. I have articulated why just fine, thank you.

Katiora · June 9, 2016

Sili lets try this. There's at least 3 mafia. Let's say even if lenlo is one.

Who else??? You can't think me and Hallia are both mafia. That would be stupid to tie all three of us together like that.

What in your mind are the other 2 most likely mafia candidates?

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

There are quite a few who think he is scum, and have said so. I can see him thinking he could very likely be on the block. I have articulated why just fine, thank you.

I was moreso referring to kat, but also you because you're defending him for a reason that's probably bs.

Sili Quirrels · June 9, 2016

Sili lets try this. There's at least 3 mafia. Let's say even if lenlo is one.

Who else??? You can't think me and Hallia are both mafia. That would be stupid to tie all three of us together like that.

What in your mind are the other 2 most likely mafia candidates?

meh.

give a better reason for me to think lenlo is town and maybe i wont vote him.

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