[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

May 16, 2016

Lol I see that. Lol. I can't stop giggling.

Sooh · May 16, 2016

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Turin (5) - Darthe, Celeste, Zander, Thane, Besie

Besie (5) - Turin, Lenlo, Sili, Eldrick, seph

Seph (1) - , Dice

Not voting (1): Shad,

With 12 alive there are 7 to lynch!

Turin and Besie at L-2

May 16, 2016

That was to Lenlo

seph · May 16, 2016

no zander lol. There are much better cases for why besie is scum

Zander? · May 16, 2016

The fact you do nothing but misread stuff, dismiss other stuff, and defend Besie.

What am I misreading?

It's not worth explaining to you again.

You should

[unvote]

[v]besie[/v]

Please unvote turin. I think besie has to be the lynch today to clear up alot for us tbh. I Think she flips scum

No

seph · May 16, 2016

shad and turn. you guys please choose besie. She is by far the better lynch today. Look how many times she has contradicted herself that have been brought up in just the last few pages.

If we are wrong I will take a freaking policy lynch tomorrow

Lenlo · May 16, 2016

Me Z, arbitrarily.

Do me a favour and make a list like that where the order is changed. Go ahead.

Okaaaaayyyyy peeps! So everybody's votes were just scattered everywhere.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Eldrick (1) - Shad

Thane (1) - Turin

Seph (2) - Thane, Dice

Hallia (1) - Kivam

Celeste (2) - Lenlo, Nyn

Darthe (1) - Eldrick

Turin (1) - Celeste

Dice (1) - Seph

Kivam (1) - Sili

Not voting (4): Darthe, Hallia, Zander, Besie

With 15 alive there are 8 to lynch!

Came up with a plan to find the one (or more) person that at least most people can agree on lynching.

The idea is this: if more than 5 people think a single person is scummy, and thus lynchable, these 5 are (1) not all wolves, they (2) all have their own reasons for thinking as such, and (3) if a scum member was bussing or covering, then they just doomed their own teammate.

Okay, #3 is maybe closer to hopeful thinking and might be what they want. But #1 and #2 is true. And if #2 is true, then that person, by general consensus, is the most scummy.

I'm going to vote that person, because that person is the person that the town, in general (with #1 and #2 in mind) agree on.

On page (p) 41, I asked everyone for at least 3 of their top wtl. This is the outcome:

Besie - p41 - Shad, Hallia, Turin, Darthe

Sili - p41- Seph, Shad, Kivam

Lenlo - p41 - NO - p42 Seph, Celeste

Celeste - p41 - Turin, Sili

Zander - p42 - Thane, Shad, Kivam, Darthe

Hallia - p44 - Besie, Kivam, Thane, Celeste

Shad - p45 - Hallia, Kivam

Seph - p45,46 - Dice, Hallia, Sili, Kivam, Celeste , Nyn, Turin, Darthe

Dice - p46,47 - Seph, Nyn

Nyn - p48 - Celeste, Darthe, Turin

Turin - p50 - ????, Thane (voted)

Thane - ????

Darthe - ????

Kivam - ????

Eldrick - ????

When each person is then sorted according to how many people is wtl him/her, the list is as follows:

(5) Kivam

(4) Turin

(4) Celeste

(4)Darthe

(3) Shad

(3) Hallia

(3) Seph

(2) Sili

(2) Nyn

(2) Thane

(1) Besie

So, [v]Kivam [/v]

(5) Kivam
(4)Darthe

(4) Celeste

(4) Turin

(3) Hallia

(3) Seph

(3) Shad

(2) Thane

(2) Nyn

(2) Sili

(1) Besie

Done. List in a new order, adds up right.

Lol Len. Hi.

And is this still in effect? Or can you give me a way that you sorted it, like I can?

No I mean you certainly did control the order the names were posted in in a narrow way. Now I was the first to say it was reaching and weak but afaict you did control the order of the names in such a way as turin describes.
Lol... nah. I didn't. Lol.
Yeah you did. This is why you are meh.
How, Sili?
Multiple players were tied. You can rearrange them and still keep the overall order from 5 - 0.

Lol. The people with the same score were just typed in as I read down from the wtl list. Check, and you'll see.

You didnt preface that in the original post, you asked for it to be rearranged while still keeping the numbers consistent. You demanded it be done as if it couldn't be done. Well news for you, a list of objects with equal value can be sorted in a factorial number of ways! That includes sublists of lists!

People are thinking shes Scummy for how the list was ordered???

No, I simply reordered it because she said it couldnt be done.

Sili Quirrels · May 16, 2016

You didnt preface that in the original post, you asked for it to be rearranged while still keeping the numbers consistent. You demanded it be done as if it couldn't be done. Well news for you, a list of objects with equal value can be sorted in a factorial number of ways! That includes sublists of lists!

People are thinking shes Scummy for how the list was ordered???

Not really. In the scheme of things it was an aside.

Sili Quirrels · May 16, 2016

The fact you do nothing but misread stuff, dismiss other stuff, and defend Besie.

What am I misreading?

It's not worth explaining to you again.

You should

It will fall on deaf ears, so no.

Shad_ · May 16, 2016

My biggest take away from Turin's ISO was that Besie is more likely to be town lol.

gth v/v trains

You think Turin is Town as well. Why?

It's messy.

Besie's done a lot of scummy things. Pending ~5 pages of catch up I feel like it's scummy town. I didn't really feel like Turin was twisting much in his ISO of her, especially after glancing at his ISO of Lily in ToS. He pointed out a lot of supposed scum signs that made me go "that's more likely to come from a villager than someone with an agenda", but they were all things that really happened, and a lot of them could easily be perceived as scummy, because Besie is superficially scummy. But some of the things he called out, like Besie arranging her non-reads list to subliminally make us target towns, were straight up over-the-top.

So like, is scum!Turin able to hide it better because he doesn't have to twist things to build a case on her?

Or is town!Turin a little dirtier than I'm used to because he's so deep in the tunnel?

I'm hedging towards the latter.

Zander? · May 16, 2016

My biggest take away from Turin's ISO was that Besie is more likely to be town lol.

gth v/v trains

please look at the post I just made. not so much of the reads list. She literally tells turin she doesn't want to make the vote go random, and wants the town to come together.

Then at eod, makes it go random and hard defends it.

Everyone please vote besie, I don't see how she is town atm

i've been saying this for like days -.-

I haven't payed that much attention towards d2 sorry :(

Yet your sure Besie is Scum and Turin is Town?

Turin Turambar · May 16, 2016

Well since I am tied with Bes and we have 1 hour left.

Hardclaim: TOWN BUSDRIVER.

only claiming so I can give my action from N1.

I switched Shad ( a town read due to claim that I thought could take fire) with Dice (a mafia read that I doubted would draw NAS).

I still think that most likely mafia team is Bes, Celeste, Dice. Mix in Z, Darthe, maybe Seph if there are 4 or one of the others are wrong.

I think I have said and done all I can

Sili Quirrels · May 16, 2016

My biggest take away from Turin's ISO was that Besie is more likely to be town lol.

gth v/v trains

please look at the post I just made. not so much of the reads list. She literally tells turin she doesn't want to make the vote go random, and wants the town to come together.

Then at eod, makes it go random and hard defends it.

Everyone please vote besie, I don't see how she is town atm

i've been saying this for like days -.-

I haven't payed that much attention towards d2 sorry :(

Yet your sure Besie is Scum and Turin is Town?

it's a pretty easy conclusion for anyone who isn't angling for something or head first in the pool of acid.

Zander? · May 16, 2016

I honestly don't think it's Besie. Celeste train not taking off, I'll go with my the other lowest person on the reads list I posted yesterday

[v] Turin [/v]

I have no problem with a Celeste train.

seph · May 16, 2016

Shad I need you to go besie! plz.
You believed in me day 1 and I am sorry I got down after eod, I know day 1's are rough but I feel very confident atm. please trust me!

look at the trains and the difference from day1. It is obvious there is at least 1 mafia up for lynch today. If besie is town here I am completely lost on how to win this game.

@ zander. I have at least read besie iso, and explained why I think she is scum, Not only that lenlo pointed out a very good point about another contradiction in these last few pages. I also never said turin was town lol @ you.

Besie is most likely scum with these people. I would lynch them in this order = dice/zander/celeste

Turin Turambar · May 16, 2016

shad and turn. you guys please choose besie. She is by far the better lynch today. Look how many times she has contradicted herself that have been brought up in just the last few pages.

If we are wrong I will take a freaking policy lynch tomorrow

I assume you mean Thane. I'm already voting her.

seph · May 16, 2016

Well since I am tied with Bes and we have 1 hour left.

Hardclaim: TOWN BUSDRIVER.

only claiming so I can give my action from N1.

I switched Shad ( a town read due to claim that I thought could take fire) with Dice (a mafia read that I doubted would draw NAS).

I still think that most likely mafia team is Bes, Celeste, Dice. Mix in Z, Darthe, maybe Seph if there are 4 or one of the others are wrong.

I think I have said and done all I can

THANK YOU, I am sad it had to come to this turin, and sorry for suspecting you in there. but can we please LYNCH besie now

seph · May 16, 2016

shad and turn. you guys please choose besie. She is by far the better lynch today. Look how many times she has contradicted herself that have been brought up in just the last few pages.

If we are wrong I will take a freaking policy lynch tomorrow

I assume you mean Thane. I'm already voting her.

i did

Thane Vakarian · May 16, 2016

unvote

[v] Celeste [/v]

choo choo

all aboard.

Lenlo · May 16, 2016

I can get behind a Dice/Zander/Celeste/Besie team, though id lynch Celeste first in there after Bess

I dont understand how Turin is tied with Bess at this point.

seph · May 16, 2016

Well since I am tied with Bes and we have 1 hour left.

Hardclaim: TOWN BUSDRIVER.

only claiming so I can give my action from N1.

I switched Shad ( a town read due to claim that I thought could take fire) with Dice (a mafia read that I doubted would draw NAS).

I still think that most likely mafia team is Bes, Celeste, Dice. Mix in Z, Darthe, maybe Seph if there are 4 or one of the others are wrong.

I think I have said and done all I can

THANK YOU, I am sad it had to come to this turin, and sorry for suspecting you in there. but can we please LYNCH besie now

Turin I am going to look up this to see how it works, but I plan on helping you out

Lenlo · May 16, 2016

unvote

[v] Celeste [/v]

choo choo

all aboard.

You mean Bess.

seph · May 16, 2016

unvote

[v] Celeste [/v]

choo choo

all aboard.

wtf is this?

vote besie.... I love you thane but there is no way besie is town here

seph · May 16, 2016

I don't disagree with lynching celeste, because besie was soft defending her as a nul read

Zander? · May 16, 2016

no zander lol. There are much better cases for why besie is scum

Then whats the fixation with the list?

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