[Advanced] Salem Mafia - GAME OVER - MAFIA WIN

[Shad_]

[v]Thane[/v]

 

Five players left, possibly three non-town.  There is no world where Thane is a villager here, and anyone who struggles to see that is probably his partner.

[Shad_]

I'm not going to put very much work into this phase.  I'm in two other games right now and one of them is an insane mishmash with 14,000 posts as of EoD2.  My brain's mush and I feel like I contributed a ton to this game when no one else was much interested in playing it.

 

Seriously, lynch Thane.  There is no world where he behaves the way he did as town.

[Shad_]

Also seph wtf at removing your avatar

 

It's like I don't know you anymore

[seph]

Also seph wtf at removing your avatar

 

It's like I don't know you anymore

but your the wolf.

also was suppose to be bowser. yay internet

[seph]

your literally pushing thane without looking at anything else.
no re evaluation. just keep on tunnelin i guess

[seph]

[v]Thane[/v]

 

Five players left, possibly three non-town.  There is no world where Thane is a villager here, and anyone who struggles to see that is probably his partner.

also what do you mean possibly 3?

[Thane Vakarian]

possibly 3, seeing the NK's were cleaned, so could be a neutral too.

 

Shad, you're not lynching me this game.

 

[v] Shad [/v]

 

I am town, the way you handled me this game was... not good. Turin is another non-town imo. Seph could be, BFG could be. Haven't fully decided yet, ftm BFG has more townie points.

 

Shad, IF you are town, which is a big IF, who besides me would you lynch? 

[Thane Vakarian]

hold on a sec..

 

unvote

 

we do need to use the time we have to check who is who. *nods*

[Thane Vakarian]

Seph, who besides Shad is non-town and why? 

[seph]

I think turin. he has had moments where i thought he was town. He hasn't always been here but has given decent imput.
he is just my lowest town. the only non town I have atm is shad. 

I think i lynch you last, just because i am more comfortable with my read on you. I haven't seen bfg as a non town. but nothing about her play seems off to me.
turin is mainly poe

[Thane Vakarian]

I doubt that BFG would be non-town. I'd be surprised were she mafia or SK this game. 

[seph]

I doubt that BFG would be non-town. I'd be surprised were she mafia or SK this game. 

agreed.

[Eldrick4221]

Vote Count!

 

Shad (1): Seph

 

Thane (1): Shad

 

With 5 alive, 3 votes are needed to enter Voting Phase

 

 

Not Voting - BFG, Thane, Turin

 

Day 2 will end at 5pm Friday

 

 

[Turin Turambar]

 

[v]Thane[/v]

 

Five players left, possibly three non-town.  There is no world where Thane is a villager here, and anyone who struggles to see that is probably his partner.

also what do you mean possibly 3?

 

 

 

possibly 3, seeing the NK's were cleaned, so could be a neutral too.

 

Shad, you're not lynching me this game.

 

[v] Shad [/v]

 

I am town, the way you handled me this game was... not good. Turin is another non-town imo. Seph could be, BFG could be. Haven't fully decided yet, ftm BFG has more townie points.

 

Shad, IF you are town, which is a big IF, who besides me would you lynch? 

Has everyone read the rules of the game and about the roles???

 

This is not really looking good at the moment. Best case Scenario is we are looking at 3-1-1. Worst case it is 2-2-1.

 

Turin: I know I'm town. 

BFG: Shad's analysis of this is correct. She was RBD N1 and there was a mafia kill and a mafia Janitor as well as a SK kill. Zander flipping witch removes the last possible non town role so she is definitely town.

 

Unfortunately those are the only two slots I know are town. Of the rest we have:

 

Shad: He did the werk on BFG at start of D1 which looks good. He hammered Zander who flipped indy so that is null. I don't see his response to Thane's basically unsubstantiated rush is out of character. 

Seph: Dice showed how he didn't try to kill Sili but I look back and I see He did shoot at me. Since I know I'm town that doesn't sit well. I was low volume on D0 mostly because I was busy elsewhere which made me a good no info lynch. A SK would be willing to go for me obviously. Plus none of that prevented him from being mafia. 

Thane: the whole weird posting situation feels wrong. I don't get how you are so grumpy about being not town read despite not really looking townish. I trusted Dice but now I know that at least 2 of you 3 are non town I can't just let you slide on a good feeling from Dice. 

 

I need to go look at everyone today. It might be a while. i guess the good news is it is 66% for me to hit non-town today.

[Turin Turambar]

I thought I might take a short cut by seeing if there was any connection to Hallia on the odd chance that she was mafia accidentally killed during the night by virtue of dice's transporting. I didn't get much

 

 

Hallia whispers Shad.

Shad what did you talk to Hallia about? 

 

Give me some thoughts on Thane, Lily/Seph?

Seph: current thoughts on Thane?

 

Well, that's disappointing. I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out what Turin meant. 

 

That's really the only thing I find suspicious so far, because I know I'm town, and I don't understand his reason for his vote. 

Lily/Seph very low on activity. Only able to possibly form a read on me if I explain my vote on her. Lily is very  low content as a wolf IIRC and she seemed to be in that mode early. Sick and subbed out so might be null might not be. 

 

 

Or maybe I chose to play differently, seeing i'm trying to actually give you something to work with in the little time i can be here?

 

Once again, Shad, lynching me would be... not that good.

 

But,who am I kidding, right? " It's Thane, he's scummy, let's kill him and just not believe he actually might be telling the truth. "

 

Sometimes I really wonder why I even try....

 

Back to my previous gameplay MO, perhaps? Just lurk my way through the game, make excellent reads list noboby believes, hammer a wolf and try not to get lynched? I can do that too. Buh bye

 

#somuchfortryingsomethingnew

 

ugh, I dont know how this makes me feel at all.

 

 

 

 

Turin, I don't understand your vote. Can you explain it in other words, please?

 

Have you said or done anything this game reads wise?

 

Im not being a jerk i just dont recall anything.

 

 

No, I've been sick and I said I'd start playing today. I want an answer to my question to Turin, and then I might have a read on him, but nothing else yet. 

 

 

Is this all?

 

Now Zander was 3p but he would still be looking to find at least the SK. He might be looking to figure out who the mafia were and suss them some but maybe not so much look to get them lynched.  Gonna keep looking 

 

 

 

 

I will be back and forth between this game and Ithi's today because it is DL there today. 

[Thane Vakarian]

we need to clear townies at this stage i think....

 

mislynch = possible 3vs1, best case 2vs2. 

NA's: no more townies left worst case.

 

For town to actually be able to win, i'll do something silly and claim.

 

I have the town protective role. N0 shad; N1 bfg.

 

Now, re-evaluate.

[Thane Vakarian]

and the entire DT goes:

 

[Thane Vakarian]

I probably get the reward for worst doc in history on DM

[Turin Turambar]

How did you go from protecting Shad on N0 to coming out and calling him obvious wolf on D1 when you were protecting him and your main reasoning was he didn't die?

 

 

I know you would get notified if he was attacked but it seems that was a huge leap to make from top town to mafia? Your previous explanation has been lacking. 

[Turin Turambar]

Question for everyone... What was your read on Hallia? 

 

I was somewhat suspicious of her for her treatment of me in regard to Lily/Seph. She put a bad vote on me IMO which could have been defending Lily/Seph. Then She took it off for an easy soft reason when it was clear that Lily wasn't really in any danger.  I hope she was mafia and got killed in effect by Dice.  

 

 

Thread needs more BFG. 

[BFG]

En route to South Korea, see you later :)

[Thane Vakarian]

I had no real townreads D0 and was just randomly picking someone. Never stated he was my top town read. Don't assume things.

[Thane Vakarian]

I had Hallia as a null. Which i had stated before. Not townie enough, nothing incriminating enough.

[Turin Turambar]

I had no real townreads D0 and was just randomly picking someone. Never stated he was my top town read. Don't assume things.

Then why not just protect yourself? Makes more sense than to pick someone at random to me. 

 

This game is all about making assumptions about what people say and why they do the things they do.

 

I can't see how you would pick a random person to protect. If you are a BG then you are putting your life at risk for someone you don't know. If you are Doc then you are doing the same(granted in that case you would be burning your only self protect by not picking someone else).

[Turin Turambar]

BFG, what is your opinion on Shad's reasoning for his near mechanical clear of you? And I suppose my taking it the next step to complete clear based on the Zander flip?