[Basic] Bolshevik Mafia - TOWN WINS

[Darthe]

Hally WoT 1 (post 401)

 

 

Damn.  Five pages in:

 

[v]No Lynch[/v]

 

Bring on the hate!

I do not like.

 

[v]No Lynch[/v]

 

Bring on the hate!

 

 

Agreed.

Here. Be back later.

Don't care either way on no lynch, but appreciate Eldrick's effort to get things going

Wait so here, you don't care either way.

I'm exhausted, in pain, and full of stress.

Also ready to lunch wolves

Can't do that with a No Lynch, Eldrick

:dry:

And here you do care - What changed?

So anybody have intel on this Kronos guy? I have no idea who he is.

He is my bonded Souvra and pretty much the best gai ever

 

So anybody have intel on this Kronos guy? I have no idea who he is.

 

I dont know if this is alignment indicative of Eld or not, but I find a tad strange for him to ask atp.

 

Maybe its just me but still something i noted.

 

I didn't find it odd

 

 

So anybody have intel on this Kronos guy? I have no idea who he is.

 

I dont know if this is alignment indicative of Eld or not, but I find a tad strange for him to ask atp.

 

Maybe its just me but still something i noted.

 

I know everybody else. Have no idea what to expect from him. It's nice to know what to look for.

 

Mainly because of this.

 

2 very applicable rule:

LAL

and

ALL

These are rules that must always be adhered to!!!!!!!

So you are voting Darthe?

 

Always vote Derf.

Hey Thane :) I was going to use my work printer but I didn't have everything I needed while I was there and forgot the portion I DID have haha.

 

What are your thoughts on No Lynch?

What are your thoughts on it now?  It seems to have wavered.

thoughts on No lynch? Never to be done early game imo. In later stages, to improve odds and perhaps get a clearer view through NA's, perhaps. But early game (like untill D3 is over) it shouldn't even be considered.

I like this reasoning.

 

thoughts on No lynch? Never to be done early game imo. In later stages, to improve odds and perhaps get a clearer view through NA's, perhaps. But early game (like untill D3 is over) it shouldn't even be considered.

But arguably lynches are at least halfway responsible for town losses. We could no lynch for a few days, see who mafia NKs, then start the game. It's at least a null strategy.

 

That's terrible.

Nah, we lynch. I want a wolf to dangle.

Heck yeah Sooh!

 

thoughts on No lynch? Never to be done early game imo. In later stages, to improve odds and perhaps get a clearer view through NA's, perhaps. But early game (like untill D3 is over) it shouldn't even be considered.

 

Drop this no lynch talk....were not No lynching people!!!!!

 

Yusss.

No no lynch Bs.

 

Now someone re-explain seer cover to me. I remember having to do it in one game. Do we do it in this game? This seems like an applicable game.

I don't like the bold in this post - I can go into it if you like, but I kind of want to keep my reasoning to myself, at least for the time being.

 

Continuing on.

 

 

 

[Darthe]

Hally WoT 2 (post 406)

 

 

 

 

 

Up through page 11

IMO simplest explanation is Easter, but it's worth digging in a bit here because the seer talk is getting contrived.  [v] turin [/v]

Why?

 

Here. Be back later.

Don't care either way on no lynch, but appreciate Eldrick's effort to get things going

 

 

I'm exhausted, in pain, and full of stress.

Also ready to lunch wolves

Can't do that with a No Lynch, Eldrick

 

 

 

This bugged me last night, and it still is today.

 

She calls my no lynch vote an effort to get things going. It was very much a joke. Joke votes are a part of early game, and I found it weird that she thought it was serious.

 

And on top of that, she goes from not having a stance on no lynch to being against it from one post of zander's.

 

Glad to see I wasn't the only one to notice.

 

 

Here. Be back later.

Don't care either way on no lynch, but appreciate Eldrick's effort to get things going

 

 

I'm exhausted, in pain, and full of stress.

Also ready to lunch wolves

Can't do that with a No Lynch, Eldrick

 

 

 

This bugged me last night, and it still is today.

 

She calls my no lynch vote an effort to get things going. It was very much a joke. Joke votes are a part of early game, and I found it weird that she thought it was serious.

 

And on top of that, she goes from not having a stance on no lynch to being against it from one post of zander's.

 

 

I dont know if this is actually something important or not.

 

But Ive made note of her intro as well.

 

Same as above.

Alanna is prob a town. I use the logic that I find her wolfy and I suck at reading her. Discuss.

Dislike.

You vote, and then immediately unvote her a minute later?

 

What was the point of that?

That's just Wolf and I.

[v]Kronos[/v]

 

Talked myself into thinking it's a scum slip. That he knows Hally's alignment, and is therefore scum.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

I'm more interested in Turin and Darthe's votes at this time.

Why?

 

That said I've still read nothing and now I will be going to bed

BUT BE VERY AFRAID

 

 

So SpooOOkkKKKyyyyyyy

 

.....wait wrong game....

 

lolololololololol

 

SPOOKYDOODLERS

 

 

 

Here. Be back later.

Don't care either way on no lynch, but appreciate Eldrick's effort to get things going

 

 

I'm exhausted, in pain, and full of stress.

Also ready to lunch wolves

Can't do that with a No Lynch, Eldrick

 

 

 

 

This bugged me last night, and it still is today.

 

She calls my no lynch vote an effort to get things going. It was very much a joke. Joke votes are a part of early game, and I found it weird that she thought it was serious.

 

And on top of that, she goes from not having a stance on no lynch to being against it from one post of zander's.

Eldrick, how do you know what I think? I wasn't being serious lol but you know how people are about No Lynch, it always gets somebody's panties in a twist 

And the second one obv a joke. Nice try, though.

 

I'm trying to find out if your eagerness, irt me and Kronos in particular, is a good thing or not.

 

#130 Zander, re: your "note" about my entrance. What up, Z?

This reads awfully defensive to me.

 

 

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

 

[BFG]

 

Ok, lets keep this simple

 

Why did you vote Turin?

 

Why are you ignoring the 3/4(?) people who have asked you this question?

I think it's just been you asking it over and over.  Maybe Hally too.

 

The answer remains the same as it is for most of my actions in the game so far.  I wanted to at that moment.  Further, I couldn't give two ****s about my vote yet.  

 

I have a question as well.  Why do your questions suck so much?  They lack depth or interest.  They're the 6th grade homework assignment of mafia questions, the tropic slamming expected of a green player.  

 

Also, the continuous use of the word "why" is in poor taste don't you think?  They actually train psychologists to avoid the word why because it always implies judgement.  Consider the difference between "Why is the trash in the house?" and "What's the reason for the trash being in the house?".  It's quite substantial, so when i see someone exclusively leaning on why questions I tend to assess them as someone who is trying to create pressure where it doesn't exist.  

 

I really do wish you had better questions.

 

I have literally no idea what you mean by your issue with the use of the word why

 

I think Kronos/Manbat/myself/maybe Hallia have questioned the reasons for your votes, the reason I'm repeating the question is because you're not answering. And at this stage the not answering is more interesting than the answer to the actual question. It's not the most interesting question in the world of ALL TIME, but I'm curious as to why you've avoided answering given that voting is one of the easiest things to hold people accountable for

[Darthe]

part 2

 

 

 

Hallia, I dont see at all why my asking how Seer Cover works says my peek is fake. I also dont understand why its bad, considering in an open game like this, from what I was taught, protecting the seer is very very important.

 

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

IO dont understand how you can have such a strong read of Hallia at this point

No, I had like instant regrets after the last few posts. 

 

Can I take back my pretty green?

 

 

 

 

Which she has waffled on.

 

Sooh, what did you dislike?

Your progression on Darthe mainly is what I disagree with right now. I don't see what you see, therefore I would like to hold off on clearing you too much just yet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hallia, I dont see at all why my asking how Seer Cover works says my peek is fake. I also dont understand why its bad, considering in an open game like this, from what I was taught, protecting the seer is very very important.

 

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

IO dont understand how you can have such a strong read of Hallia at this point

No, I had like instant regrets after the last few posts. 

 

Can I take back my pretty green?

 

Did she even post anything before those posts?  Btw your Turin read seems out of place too

 

I read her first posts, nodded to townie Hallia, then posted my reads. She posted more, instant regrets.

 

 

 

 

Now this?  This is a progression.  And it's an odd one.  Sooh went from strong town to take Hally off the list in the span of 20 posts based on one read that didn't develop from the first post.  

 

Sooh, in your shoes I'd call that a pickle.

[Darthe]

 

 

Ok, lets keep this simple

 

Why did you vote Turin?

 

Why are you ignoring the 3/4(?) people who have asked you this question?

I think it's just been you asking it over and over.  Maybe Hally too.

 

The answer remains the same as it is for most of my actions in the game so far.  I wanted to at that moment.  Further, I couldn't give two ****s about my vote yet.  

 

I have a question as well.  Why do your questions suck so much?  They lack depth or interest.  They're the 6th grade homework assignment of mafia questions, the tropic slamming expected of a green player.  

 

Also, the continuous use of the word "why" is in poor taste don't you think?  They actually train psychologists to avoid the word why because it always implies judgement.  Consider the difference between "Why is the trash in the house?" and "What's the reason for the trash being in the house?".  It's quite substantial, so when i see someone exclusively leaning on why questions I tend to assess them as someone who is trying to create pressure where it doesn't exist.  

 

I really do wish you had better questions.

 

I have literally no idea what you mean by your issue with the use of the word why

 

I think Kronos/Manbat/myself/maybe Hallia have questioned the reasons for your votes, the reason I'm repeating the question is because you're not answering. And at this stage the not answering is more interesting than the answer to the actual question. It's not the most interesting question in the world of ALL TIME, but I'm curious as to why you've avoided answering given that voting is one of the easiest things to hold people accountable for

 

it's boring and I would rather be lynched than be bored.  You're frankly annoying me with it at this point given that it's understood that I vote at near random or for incredibly base reasons in parts of D1 and yet you continue to belabor this point.  ARE YOU SATISFIED YOU PLIGHT OF MY SOUL?

[BFG]

I'll accept it for now

[Darthe]

Sometimes Nicole gets that analytical and I get like this.  She thinks it's hilarious.

 

I get miffed.

[BFG]

Awwwwwwwwwww

[Darthe]

Seriously which of you are already playing your heart out during D1?  This is the warm up phase.  The only way we reliably catch wolves is if we are all here and involved or if they make big enough mistakes today.

 

Neither of those has happened so far.

[Darthe]

Awwwwwwwwwww

You're one of those aren't you?

[Darthe]

BTW Cory I've meant to tell you for a long time that the wallpaper in the background of my sig is absolutely worthy of being torn down or painted over.  

[Darthe]

GN all

[BFG]

 

Awwwwwwwwwww

You're one of those aren't you?

 

Without knowing who you mean by one of those, I'm probably. going to agree anyway

 

 

 

What's your current opinion on Manbat?

[Eldrick4221]

Two things I noticed worth talking about. Darthe voted kronos without unvoting. When it was pointed out that he needed to unvote first, and asked why he didn't, he ignored it. He hasn't given a reason as to why he didn't correct the situation.

 

Other thing is Sooh's early green read on Hally. It doesn't make sense with the content Hally had already provided. There was nothing in that imo that would give a read other than null. Only reason to not be a null read would be a peek, and Sooh's read on Hally doesn't fit a peek either.

 

[unvote]

[V]Sooh [/v]

[alannalynn]

I'm here, and catching up right now. Sorry for my absence, I'll be digging in from here on out.

[Thane Vakarian]

I'm sorta here. Trying to read the game, read through the pages, but can't get a connection somehow. I'll need to reread before making any sort of statement on people's alignments. 

[Turin Turambar]

I blame Darthe.

[alannalynn]

Broke this into two parts for ease of quoting, also it took forever because Idiocracy came on tv and I had to watch it lol

 

#218 This weak push on Eldrick is awful. "I remember him doing it once and he was wolf, so he only does it as wolf" Obvious fallacy. Don't like. Monstr corrects this though and Turin unvotes, but it's not sitting well with me irt Turin.

#242 Also a weak push from Zander, but I can see where he's coming from irt Darthe's behavior. Just like with me, activity/commitment depends on RL stuffs. (conf. 252)

#257 (ref) I find it odd that Zander and Eldrick are questioning Sooh's comment about Turin seeing some post from Eldrick indicating he's mafia. Y'all have seen this so many times when someone catches something and it's like an unspoken agreement to let it play out. What's the problem here with Sooh's reaction? I mean I'm not even close to giving Sooh a town read but her reaction to Turin holding that post close sat fine with me. #260 is bad, Z.
 

Zander is town btw.
 
Not a peek.
 
He has his nitpicky glasses on.

Ehhh meh. I think you come to this conclusion too easily.

Getting tired of this "I saw ____ do this once as mafia, they must be mafia here" Like wut? Don't agree with Zander's case on Turin precisely because it's on what Zander is currently doing to Turin irt Eldrick. I do agree with some of  #288 on Turin's meta though, Z.

Skimmed a little bit because y'all are reitering the same stuff and it's all blurring together because it's going no where. >_>
 

[alannalynn]

Real talkin real?

 

Eldrick

Lenlo

Zander

Thane

Manbat

 

all townies. Manbat barely made that list tho so don't trust me on it

 

BFG

Laine

Kronos

 

possible wolves

 

the rest of you I've yet to decide on.

Disagree with most of this, Darthey.

 

Skipped Hally's catch up, too many quotes, not readable.

 

I get discouraged when people take my every word seriously. It's actually really tilting for those of you who've played with me long enough to know better.

This is pretty much how you deal with Cory too. He's like 20% serious and 80% jokes.

 

#453 Darthe "Much like Laine, when I think Sooh is town she tends to be a wolf and vice versa" False. And Sooh can be rather townie as town too, so that doesn't always hold true. Darthe, how many recent games have you played with me where I was a wolf? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that you just can't read me? LOL

[alannalynn]

Quick reads list since I have a moment before I try to sleep again...

 

Alanna

Kronos

Monstr
Turin
Lenlo
BFG

Hally
Darthe
Calder
Thane

 

Eldrick
Sooh
Zander
 

I'm really not that confident in my reads yet, I feel like there hasn't been a lot to go off of, just the same "why did you vote x, I don't like that, you only do xyz as wolf, yadda yadda yadda". Basically, there hasn't been a lot of substance and that bothers me as far as D1 goes. As for noting my list, Kronos is my peek, Monstr is giving me good feels. Turin, though I didn't agree with some of his pushes, his responses have been solid enough. Lenlo and BFG slightest town reads because their posts didn't make me want to throw my laptop at the wall. The huge null section either made me want to throw my computer at the wall, has given me no leans thus far, or hasn't posted at all. Nulls are mostly un-ordered. I really really hate having Zander as my lowest read but there is something off and his pushes are not coming off to me as genuine enough. I'm also having a hard time following some of his arguments because they don't make logical sense and I know he knows better than to try and put a square peg in a round hole.

[alannalynn]

Also I just realized how rude it comes off that I didn't read any of Hally's posts. Um... it's not that they're bad or that I hate you, but the formatting just doesn't do it for me and I'm having trouble reading it because it all blurs together with the quotes and I get lost every time I try. Also, trying to respond to any particular part of it is a nightmare. I could do with some 1-1 time with you to get a better read, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to read posts like that. Give me a tl;dr and we'll be golden

[alannalynn]

 

This is pretty much how you deal with Cory too. He's like 20% serious and 80% jokes.

FTR, to clarify, I'm 80% serious and 20% jokes. I'm basically a buzz kill unless I'm in a good mood. Poor Cory.

[alannalynn]

Darthe, BFG's nitpicky silly questions that seem to have no meaning somehow result in her making meaningful reads and I have no idea how she does it but there is method to her maddness. I just wish it made sense.

 

Calder hasn't posted at all.

 

I only remember two posts of Thane's, one is right here on p25 and the other one was a post saying he'd be back or something. I don't remember any kind of meaningful contribution though. Hello, I'm pot, nice to meet you kettle. 

 

I'm confident that Darthe will be hard read for me this game per usual unless he does something stunningly townie so I'm waiting for that, please don't let me down. If you do, we can just lynch a wolf.

 

Additionally, Eldrick and Sooh are separated from my null list because they are naturally scummy. Eldrick has kind of been all over the map but I appreciate him trying to get things going at the start of the game. However, I know that Eldrick is perfectly capable of that as a wolf. And I also know that people clear him precisely because he's a unique player and they expect him to do strange things. In regards to Sooh, there were some posts that fell completely flat for me and that's what's giving her a lower read, however I did like her responses to Zander about Turin. So they both kinda have +/- and I'm not sure what to do with either, I guess. Fence sitting, I am. Will sort them latter, definitely.

 

Ummmm anything else.... nopeee.... I'm fixing to go to bed if nobody is online though.

[BFG]

Laine <3

 

I'll be around in an hour, just skimming on a coffee break right now

 

can you go into more detail on Zander?

[BFG]

Two things I noticed worth talking about. Darthe voted kronos without unvoting. When it was pointed out that he needed to unvote first, and asked why he didn't, he ignored it. He hasn't given a reason as to why he didn't correct the situation.

 

Other thing is Sooh's early green read on Hally. It doesn't make sense with the content Hally had already provided. There was nothing in that imo that would give a read other than null. Only reason to not be a null read would be a peek, and Sooh's read on Hally doesn't fit a peek either.

 

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[v]Sooh [/v]

Regarding Sooh, what do you think of her responses to this already?