[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

[Yates]

I just wasn't really on. Its hard on mobile, but the boss is away today, so I can be on desktop.

I get it. But I know you know that no posting Hally is far more often than not scum Hally. So all I had was your previous body of work to deal with and it wasn't much. Just keep posting and don't worry about the haters.

[Yates]

I just wasn't really on. Its hard on mobile, but the boss is away today, so I can be on desktop.

Quick follow up since it's fresh in your mind. Let's assume you are Town. I don't think EVERYONE giving you a hard time was simply Town misreading you. I would assume at least one of them are scum trying to push your mislynch. Of the people that were giving you the business, who looked the most genuine and who seemed to be blending in/forcing a scum read on you?

 

This is of interest to me.

[Andrej]

Zander has kinda bought himself more scum equity in my eyes, but maybe that's just cause I'm bias. I don't think defensiveness is a good reason, of course I am defensive. That's null at best.

[Andrej]

Lol I already know where you're going with this.

 

I think I'm there as well.

[Yates]

Zander has kinda bought himself more scum equity in my eyes, but maybe that's just cause I'm bias. I don't think defensiveness is a good reason, of course I am defensive. That's null at best.

Where did you get the scum equity from? Did you see that reads list? It was, in a word, "masterful."

[Hallia]

Most genuine: Leelou. I chalk it up to us not playing together very much recently here on DM.

 

Least: Lenlo.

[Andrej]

Yeah, I read it.

 

Like I said earlier today, I didn't like how suddenly with my lynch viable Zander wanted to start questioning me all over again and couldn't make a call on my slot. I've interacted with him a good bit this game and have been spoon feeding him answers at every turn whenever he asks. Yet he still is wishy washy? That bugs me.

[Yates]

Yeah, I read it.

 

Like I said earlier today, I didn't like how suddenly with my lynch viable Zander wanted to start questioning me all over again and couldn't make a call on my slot. I've interacted with him a good bit this game and have been spoon feeding him answers at every turn whenever he asks. Yet he still is wishy washy? That bugs me.

Consider it a compliment and a sign that he respects your game?

[Lenlo]

I have explained why I am wtl Len and not my two other, how is that inconsistent?

Because you've flipped between calling me wolfy and calling me null.

[Yates]

@AJ - what do you think of Hally's answer?

[Lenlo]

Most genuine: Leelou. I chalk it up to us not playing together very much recently here on DM.

 

Least: Lenlo.

Am I scum reading you?

 

Zander: <3

[Andrej]

@AJ - what do you think of Hally's answer?

It's not who I would've said.

[Yates]

 

I have explained why I am wtl Len and not my two other, how is that inconsistent?

Because you've flipped between calling me wolfy and calling me null.

 

What? I don't understand your point. Can you clarify - specifically in *this* case?

[Yates]

 

@AJ - what do you think of Hally's answer?

It's not who I would've said.

 

Who were you thinking?

[Lenlo]

Zander has kinda bought himself more scum equity in my eyes, but maybe that's just cause I'm bias. I don't think defensiveness is a good reason, of course I am defensive. That's null at best.

Zander's not being near as loud or aggrivated as I remember wolf Zander being. He's also nor tunneling you or lambasting you just for thinking he may not be town, which is what he usually does.

[Lenlo]

 

 

I have explained why I am wtl Len and not my two other, how is that inconsistent?

Because you've flipped between calling me wolfy and calling me null.

What? I don't understand your point. Can you clarify - specifically in *this* case?

She put me in with Nolder in her will vote list. Then said I was null, but not as null as Thane and Verb apparently. Then says I'm reminding her of my wolf game, which means she thinks I'm being wolfy, and now is calling me "null" again while still saying I'm the least "genuine" in my questioning of her. Am I null or wolf?

[Hallia]

I didn't say wolfy at any point.

[Hallia]

AS I was reading up, you were null, BUT I was willing to vote you. I wrote my concerns. There is no flipping.

[Andrej]

 

 

@AJ - what do you think of Hally's answer?

It's not who I would've said.

Who were you thinking?

Leelou. I agree with Verb that it's kind of a little thing to be tunneling on, and I know you'll agree that Hallia can be seen as LHF.

 

That's why I made the comment I did earlier about whether it's actually something scummy or not.

[Lenlo]

I didn't say wolfy at any point.

There was alot of subtle implications that you thought it was wolfy.

[Hallia]

I did say in a land of so many town reads, to be read as null WAS concerning. Is that what you meant?

[Lenlo]

I did say in a land of so many town reads, to be read as null WAS concerning. Is that what you meant?

No. I meant you saying I remind you of a wolf game of mind. Equating me with Nolder who you apparently are wolf reading. Saying I'm apparently the least genuine in my annoyance of this whole thing.

[Hallia]

I will say now that I'm talking it out with me, rather than lashing out,I feel a bit better about you.

[Zander?]

I'm a rebel

 

And a Poutine Love and a Secret Canadian imo.

 

So I said te above before reading this:

 

 

Yates- Yates has been on point, involved and engaging, he's also been explaining things out and almost acting like an intermediary when theres been a disconnect between players.  That being said Yates is also 100% capable of fooling me but as of now, no one feels Townier then he does to me,

Hallia- Wasnt a fan of the Yates town read joke thing,  But Hallia has picked it up considerably after that.  Hallia like me doesnt always convey things clearly and also like me marches to the beat of her own drum. But Hallia's biggest town tell is volume and presence and I highly doubt Scum!Hallia cant replicate this imo.

Verb- He started off slow but has really picked it up.  And other then Hallia I think were seeing eye to eye on things which makes me feel better about him, 

Lenlo- I still cant believe im typing this.  But after his catch up hes feeling more involved and Lenlolike and fwiw this doesnt feel like Matirx or GnD to me,

 

Lee- Will need to look her over to form a better read.  I dont have a lot of experience with her.

Thane- Once I see his reasoning for reads Ill have a better idea of how to read him. 

Turin- Hasnt done nothing to ping me really so thats a good sign but ive also totally read him wrong the last couple games.  Will need more time to figure out.

 

Tina- Has been weird. but thats not totally uncommon for her. Ive liked her catchup posts more so theres that going for her.

AJ- Well heres the tough spot.  I felt he was defensive irt to me.  I havent liked some of his responses in regards to me.  And I feel like some of the stuff hes tried to sell us on like the constancy thing with Verb, hes backed down on.  My biggest thing is that Im not seeing Boss Town!AJ which Ive come to expect.

 

Nolder- His scum meta is to derp so to speak a bit.  I can kinda see where he came from irt to the Tina thing but still its hard to shake that feeling like hes well into his scum range.  I also think there may be ties between him and AJ.

Dice- Straight up doesnt feel like Town Dice to me.  He's been overly jokey.  No votes as of yet which is kind of uncommon for Town DIce imo.  No strong stances.  And really hes made a few solid game posts but there few and far between.

 

[v] Dice [/v]

 

Not my strongest scum read ever but my reads have also been pretty crappy lately.  Theres still some time left before DL to see what shakes out.  But atp prolly willing to lynch out of my bottom 4.

 

This post was basically copy/pasted from my brain. We might be secret masons after all... There is way too much mind melding in here for Zander to be faking it so he just locked himself Town for me in one post.

 

I'm particularly a fan of his Hally read as well as his thoughts on the bottom 5. We may disagree slightly on where AJ is ranked but I completely believe his thought process for having AJ exactly where he does.

 

 

 

 

 

Zander has kinda bought himself more scum equity in my eyes, but maybe that's just cause I'm bias. I don't think defensiveness is a good reason, of course I am defensive. That's null at best.

 

Im pretty sure I mentioned more the just being defensive tho...why didnt you comment or mention the other concerns I have

 

Also do you have a reads list AJ?

[Yates]

 

I didn't say wolfy at any point.

There was alot of subtle implications that you thought it was wolfy.

 

Look - even if she *did* waffle on her read - how is that scummy? Don't you think Town waffle as much or more than scum?