[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

It read to me that you were switching under the condition that someone (I want to say laine) Would vote sooh with you today.

I'm not saying you didn't suss him. I know you did.

In my eyes he was just making it known that he would much rather vote Sooh but that he's compromising on someone else he was suspecting.... and that he had every intention to return to the very same point the next day. No one made him any promises anyhow so he wasn't doing it in exchange of anything.

What do you make of Sooh backing down from voting Zander (her top suspicion) onto Nolder (who was in her null pile).....vs moving to Pral, who was her second scum suspicion?

Hallia · February 6, 2016

Official Vote Count:

Thane(1): Eldrick

Sooh(1): Zander

BG(1): Lily

Not Voting: Everyone else

Eldrick4221 · February 6, 2016

It read to me that you were switching under the condition that someone (I want to say laine) Would vote sooh with you today.

I'm not saying you didn't suss him. I know you did.

In my eyes he was just making it known that he would much rather vote Sooh but that he's compromising on someone else he was suspecting.... and that he had every intention to return to the very same point the next day. No one made him any promises anyhow so he wasn't doing it in exchange of anything.

What do you make of Sooh backing down from voting Zander (her top suspicion) onto Nolder (who was in her null pile).....vs moving to Pral, who was her second scum suspicion?

IIRC Pral didn't have a train, so moving to him instead of Nolder didn't make much sense. I didn't like the fact that she didn't go back to Zander (her top scum read) when he had pressure, though.

Eldrick4221 · February 6, 2016

It read to me that you were switching under the condition that someone (I want to say laine) Would vote sooh with you today.

I'm not saying you didn't suss him. I know you did.

In my eyes he was just making it known that he would much rather vote Sooh but that he's compromising on someone else he was suspecting.... and that he had every intention to return to the very same point the next day. No one made him any promises anyhow so he wasn't doing it in exchange of anything.

What do you make of Sooh backing down from voting Zander (her top suspicion) onto Nolder (who was in her null pile).....vs moving to Pral, who was her second scum suspicion?

Just because no one agreed doesn't mean he wasn't trying to garner a future Sooh vote by switching.

Zander? · February 6, 2016

Without her mom around, she was an easy target. Poor Jo, she was vulnerable, and demons always pray on who is vulnerable.

Turin - Jo Harvelle - Vanilla Town has been killed!

It is now D2! With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is in 48 hours.

Superbowl is tomorrow. Unless we lynch before hand i suggest an extension.

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

IIRC Pral didn't have a train, so moving to him instead of Nolder didn't make much sense. I didn't like the fact that she didn't go back to Zander (her top scum read) when he had pressure, though.

I disagree. It would have made all the sense of the world to me. This is a hybrid hammer game. Not a majority game. She didn't have to do anything but vote for who she thinks is scum. Besides, it's not like it was close to deadline... so, who cares if Pral didn't have any votes at the time? She had exactly two scum reads at the time. Zander and Pral. Zander eventually got votes and she didn't move there.... and she made no effort to start a train on her second suspect, Pral.

Zander? · February 6, 2016

IIRC Pral didn't have a train, so moving to him instead of Nolder didn't make much sense. I didn't like the fact that she didn't go back to Zander (her top scum read) when he had pressure, though.

I disagree. It would have made all the sense of the world to me. This is a hybrid hammer game. Not a majority game. She didn't have to do anything but vote for who she thinks is scum. Besides, it's not like it was close to deadline... so, who cares if Pral didn't have any votes at the time? She had exactly two scum reads at the time. Zander and Pral. Zander eventually got votes and she didn't move there.... and she made no effort to start a train on her second suspect, Pral.

You wanna vote Sooh today with me?

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

Just because no one agreed doesn't mean he wasn't trying to garner a future Sooh vote by switching.

So let me get this straight. ScumZander would expect to garner support on a future Sooh lynch by helping town lynch a townie?

lol okay.

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

You wanna vote Sooh today with me?

I'm seriously considering it.

LilyElizabeth · February 6, 2016

Votes on Nolder:

I included all votes, even the ones who later unvoted.

Kind of a weird switch by Lily IMHO, willing to pursue.

[unvote]

[v]Lily[/v]

I'm giving Zander the benefit of the doubt, since he said it was a joke, but not ruling him as scum out yet. What's weird about that?
It's the timing and also I don't agree with your vote.

Your vote on Alanna came right after Zander's but with enough time between to make me think it wasn't just a coincidence or fluke.
I also don't agree that Alanna seems to be pushing a scummate's case...or any case really she just said Eldrick seemed awkward.
If she had voted maybe I'd agree but she didn't.

To me it looks way more likely that you and Zander would be scummate's who distanced and then jumped on the same person than it does that Alanna and Sooh are scummates.

Previous post post I quoted had you saying you were Voting Alanna for not voting. Now you are saying that you would understand how she would look bad if she had voted yet you voted for the opposite reason. You further used this a reason to vote someone else. It looks to me like you were just looking for anything to take your vote off Alanna.

[unvote]
[V] Nolder [/v]

We know he was town

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

Zander I think you and I need to have a talk.

Ok whats up?

Not much, I just like to clear or condemn you early and I'd like to be able to do it soon.

Let's try some questions...

Gun to head which one person of the following people would you absolutely not let into the village right now: Sooh, Pral, Alanna, Thane, Eldrick.

Why these people specifically?

Nolder that's a terrible question when he's already mentioned scum reads on 2/5 and has null-town the rest lol

it is but its ok. I wanna see where he goes with this.

@Nol- Why Pral?

Sorry everyone woke up and is talking to me now.

The thing about Pral, and I don't mean to be insulting, even when he's town I don't find his posts that helpful or insightful 90% of the time.

He's just kind of there. So that's more meta than anything else but that's why I chose him.

That's a terrible reason.

+1 on it being a terrible reason. you don't find him helpful as town, so you want to lynch him for not being helpful.

[v]Nolder[/v]

Later retracted due to misunderstanding, iirc

[v]Nolder[/v] wakey wakey, sleeping beauty

Don't understand the reason for this vote. @Nyn can you explain?

I've been playing for almost 6 years, I'm pretty sure I know the term WIFOM when I come across it.

Things are just as verifiable asking other players but you don't seem concerned with knowing if I'm telling the truth or not, you seem more concerned with discrediting me.

Do not lynch Zander

Do lynch Nolder

When Nolder flips scum, will you trust me then?

Leap of faith

[v]Nolder[/v]

@Sooh - I think you explained it already, but would you explain this vote again, please?

I was wrong. I am voting one of them.

I noticed it earlier. It's been addressed several times. The fact that Nolder is flat out refusing to give a reads list means something. I want to find out what that something is.

[v]Nolder[/v]

Okay reason, I guess

I figured as much.

Vote Nolder

Out of all the votes, Sooh's looks the worst

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

I don't read her as well as you do. I have mislynched her before. But I just can't get over her content and vote choices. It's really hard to swallow.

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

That was @Zander

Zander? · February 6, 2016

Votes on Nolder:

I included all votes, even the ones who later unvoted.

Kind of a weird switch by Lily IMHO, willing to pursue.

[unvote]

[v]Lily[/v]

I'm giving Zander the benefit of the doubt, since he said it was a joke, but not ruling him as scum out yet. What's weird about that?

It's the timing and also I don't agree with your vote.

Your vote on Alanna came right after Zander's but with enough time between to make me think it wasn't just a coincidence or fluke.

I also don't agree that Alanna seems to be pushing a scummate's case...or any case really she just said Eldrick seemed awkward.

If she had voted maybe I'd agree but she didn't.

To me it looks way more likely that you and Zander would be scummate's who distanced and then jumped on the same person than it does that Alanna and Sooh are scummates.

Previous post post I quoted had you saying you were Voting Alanna for not voting. Now you are saying that you would understand how she would look bad if she had voted yet you voted for the opposite reason. You further used this a reason to vote someone else. It looks to me like you were just looking for anything to take your vote off Alanna.

[unvote]

[V] Nolder [/v]

We know he was town

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

Zander I think you and I need to have a talk.

Ok whats up?

Not much, I just like to clear or condemn you early and I'd like to be able to do it soon.

Let's try some questions...

Gun to head which one person of the following people would you absolutely not let into the village right now: Sooh, Pral, Alanna, Thane, Eldrick.

Why these people specifically?

Nolder that's a terrible question when he's already mentioned scum reads on 2/5 and has null-town the rest lol

it is but its ok. I wanna see where he goes with this.

@Nol- Why Pral?

Sorry everyone woke up and is talking to me now.

The thing about Pral, and I don't mean to be insulting, even when he's town I don't find his posts that helpful or insightful 90% of the time.

He's just kind of there. So that's more meta than anything else but that's why I chose him.

That's a terrible reason.

+1 on it being a terrible reason. you don't find him helpful as town, so you want to lynch him for not being helpful.

[v]Nolder[/v]

Later retracted due to misunderstanding, iirc

[v]Nolder[/v] wakey wakey, sleeping beauty

Don't understand the reason for this vote. @Nyn can you explain?

I've been playing for almost 6 years, I'm pretty sure I know the term WIFOM when I come across it.

Things are just as verifiable asking other players but you don't seem concerned with knowing if I'm telling the truth or not, you seem more concerned with discrediting me.

Do not lynch Zander

Do lynch Nolder

When Nolder flips scum, will you trust me then?

Leap of faith

[v]Nolder[/v]

@Sooh - I think you explained it already, but would you explain this vote again, please?

I was wrong. I am voting one of them.

I noticed it earlier. It's been addressed several times. The fact that Nolder is flat out refusing to give a reads list means something. I want to find out what that something is.

[v]Nolder[/v]

Okay reason, I guess

I figured as much.

Vote Nolder

Out of all the votes, Sooh's looks the worst

Mine's not there

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

@Lily I made my case well before my vote and then had a string of exchanges with Nolder that eventually led to that vote.

Eldrick4221 · February 6, 2016

IIRC Pral didn't have a train, so moving to him instead of Nolder didn't make much sense. I didn't like the fact that she didn't go back to Zander (her top scum read) when he had pressure, though.

I disagree. It would have made all the sense of the world to me. This is a hybrid hammer game. Not a majority game. She didn't have to do anything but vote for who she thinks is scum. Besides, it's not like it was close to deadline... so, who cares if Pral didn't have any votes at the time? She had exactly two scum reads at the time. Zander and Pral. Zander eventually got votes and she didn't move there.... and she made no effort to start a train on her second suspect, Pral.

I see your point.

LilyElizabeth · February 6, 2016

Votes on Nolder:

I included all votes, even the ones who later unvoted.

Kind of a weird switch by Lily IMHO, willing to pursue.

[unvote]

[v]Lily[/v]

I'm giving Zander the benefit of the doubt, since he said it was a joke, but not ruling him as scum out yet. What's weird about that?

It's the timing and also I don't agree with your vote.

Your vote on Alanna came right after Zander's but with enough time between to make me think it wasn't just a coincidence or fluke.

I also don't agree that Alanna seems to be pushing a scummate's case...or any case really she just said Eldrick seemed awkward.

If she had voted maybe I'd agree but she didn't.

To me it looks way more likely that you and Zander would be scummate's who distanced and then jumped on the same person than it does that Alanna and Sooh are scummates.

Previous post post I quoted had you saying you were Voting Alanna for not voting. Now you are saying that you would understand how she would look bad if she had voted yet you voted for the opposite reason. You further used this a reason to vote someone else. It looks to me like you were just looking for anything to take your vote off Alanna.

[unvote]

[V] Nolder [/v]

We know he was town

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

Zander I think you and I need to have a talk.

Ok whats up?

Not much, I just like to clear or condemn you early and I'd like to be able to do it soon.

Let's try some questions...

Gun to head which one person of the following people would you absolutely not let into the village right now: Sooh, Pral, Alanna, Thane, Eldrick.

Why these people specifically?

Nolder that's a terrible question when he's already mentioned scum reads on 2/5 and has null-town the rest lol

it is but its ok. I wanna see where he goes with this.

@Nol- Why Pral?

Sorry everyone woke up and is talking to me now.

The thing about Pral, and I don't mean to be insulting, even when he's town I don't find his posts that helpful or insightful 90% of the time.

He's just kind of there. So that's more meta than anything else but that's why I chose him.

That's a terrible reason.

+1 on it being a terrible reason. you don't find him helpful as town, so you want to lynch him for not being helpful.

[v]Nolder[/v]

Later retracted due to misunderstanding, iirc

[v]Nolder[/v] wakey wakey, sleeping beauty

Don't understand the reason for this vote. @Nyn can you explain?

I've been playing for almost 6 years, I'm pretty sure I know the term WIFOM when I come across it.

Things are just as verifiable asking other players but you don't seem concerned with knowing if I'm telling the truth or not, you seem more concerned with discrediting me.

Do not lynch Zander

Do lynch Nolder

When Nolder flips scum, will you trust me then?

Leap of faith

[v]Nolder[/v]

@Sooh - I think you explained it already, but would you explain this vote again, please?

I was wrong. I am voting one of them.

I noticed it earlier. It's been addressed several times. The fact that Nolder is flat out refusing to give a reads list means something. I want to find out what that something is.

[v]Nolder[/v]

Okay reason, I guess

I figured as much.

Vote Nolder

Out of all the votes, Sooh's looks the worst

Mine's not there

Sorry. I'll go back and find it.

LilyElizabeth · February 6, 2016

@Lily I made my case well before my vote and then had a string of exchanges with Nolder that eventually led to that vote.

Thanks. I only scrolled back so far. I'll go looking.

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

My bad, the exchange was after the vote, not before.

Zander? · February 6, 2016

I don't read her as well as you do. I have mislynched her before. But I just can't get over her content and vote choices. It's really hard to swallow.

Ya i have too early on in my Mafia career but ive been getting better the last few games. I think her struggle as Scum!Sooh is having to build cases against Town and as Scum shes more concerned with how people perceive her.

LilyElizabeth · February 6, 2016

[v] unvote [/v]

[v] Nolder [/v]

Sooh tomorrow.

Yeah, I remember this one. You voted in exchange for Alanna's support today. Nothing unusual about that.

Nynaeve · February 6, 2016

@Lily I made my case well before my vote and then had a string of exchanges with Nolder that eventually led to that vote.

Thanks. I only scrolled back so far. I'll go looking.

Here are the posts where I talked about him:

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/96562-basic-supernatural-mafia-day-one/?p=3605154

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/96562-basic-supernatural-mafia-day-one/?p=3605559

Hallia · February 6, 2016

Sooh is replaced by Turin!

Also: due to Superbowl I will extend the deadline to 11am PST on Tuesday, Feb 9th.

LilyElizabeth · February 6, 2016

You didn't have to do that for me. Thanks. You are sitting solidly town in my list. You had a good solid case, even if you were wrong.

LilyElizabeth · February 6, 2016

Sooh is replaced by Turin!

Also: due to Superbowl I will extend the deadline to 11am PST on Tuesday, Feb 9th.

Welcome back, Turin

LilyElizabeth · February 6, 2016

Well, a soilid case for day one. lol

[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

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