[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

[Nynaeve]

I wasn't aware he was the leading train. I normally don't pay attention to that.

 

Maybe you should? Lol

[Eldrick4221]

 

This Lily/Laine interaction is really confusing me. I don't get Laine's reaction at all. The way she describes how she is perceiving what Lily is doing gives me the feeling she thinks Lily is scum tunneling her, but then she has a town read on her. I would think scum in her shoes, but that's just me I guess.

Are you saying that people shouldn't evolve their reads? I thought Alanna explained why she thinks some of LIly's posts is town and why she thinks some of Lily's posts is scum. Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

It wasn't evolving reads, though. She listed things she noticed about lily. Things that if I was in her shoes would make me think Lily was scum. And then she townread lily. It didn't make sense to me.

[Eldrick4221]

 

I wasn't aware he was the leading train. I normally don't pay attention to that.

 

Maybe you should? Lol

Why does it matter? I vote for who is scummy, not for who is almost lynched.

[Nynaeve]

I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm townreading them. Reasons to suspect and perceiving a v/v interaction imo. Makes them null at best. All I'm saying is I'm not wtl them today.

You just presented two different reads in the same post on the same people. Lol

 

V is villiger. It implies a town read. It is far from being a null read. So if you say you get a v/v feel from two people its not equivalent to a null read.

 

You need to work on how you phrase yourself. Because you're making it really hard to understand you.

[Eldrick4221]

Leading trains don't matter until eod. I don't see why town has a reason to watch them.

[Eldrick4221]

 

I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm townreading them. Reasons to suspect and perceiving a v/v interaction imo. Makes them null at best. All I'm saying is I'm not wtl them today.

You just presented two different reads in the same post on the same people. Lol

 

V is villiger. It implies a town read. It is far from being a null read. So if you say you get a v/v feel from two people its not equivalent to a null read.

 

You need to work on how you phrase yourself. Because you're making it really hard to understand you.

And what happens when you get a town read for some stuff and a scum read for others? Viola. Null. I thought I articulated that well.

[Nynaeve]

 

 

I wasn't aware he was the leading train. I normally don't pay attention to that.

 

Maybe you should? Lol

Why does it matter? I vote for who is scummy, not for who is almost lynched.

Erm... generally speaking, looking at VCs is always important. It's a tool and it's something that can be analysed. But we can talk about that post game if you want.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

I wasn't aware he was the leading train. I normally don't pay attention to that.

 

Maybe you should? Lol

Why does it matter? I vote for who is scummy, not for who is almost lynched.

Erm... generally speaking, looking at VCs is always important. It's a tool and it's something that can be analysed. But we can talk about that post game if you want.

I want, if you don't want to discuss it here.

[Nynaeve]

 

 

I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm townreading them. Reasons to suspect and perceiving a v/v interaction imo. Makes them null at best. All I'm saying is I'm not wtl them today.

You just presented two different reads in the same post on the same people. Lol

 

V is villiger. It implies a town read. It is far from being a null read. So if you say you get a v/v feel from two people its not equivalent to a null read.

 

You need to work on how you phrase yourself. Because you're making it really hard to understand you.

And what happens when you get a town read for some stuff and a scum read for others? Viola. Null. I thought I articulated that well.

Hello face... meet palm. I can already tell you're gonna be best friends!

[Nynaeve]

I'm out for lunch. Family dinner in a restaurant! Toodles :-D

[Eldrick4221]

/shrug

 

That's how I interpret it. I guess I used the wrong terms, but I'm not currently sold on either of them being scum. I can't explain it any better than I already have.

[Eldrick4221]

Pral, could you explain why you still think it's w/w or w/v?

[Turin Turambar]

Was there a post by Alanna saying someone else looked worse if Nolder specifically flipped goon? I am on mobile and can't look it up. I thought I saw it. If someone could link it or quote it I would greatly appreciate it.

[Eldrick4221]

Was there a post by Alanna saying someone else looked worse if Nolder specifically flipped goon? I am on mobile and can't look it up. I thought I saw it. If someone could link it or quote it I would greatly appreciate it.

I can do that for you once I get off mobile myself. I've been reading up in my car and haven't bothered going inside yet.

[Eldrick4221]

And I suppose that's proper motivation to move :P

[alannalynn]

Eldrick is confusing the crap outta me, tbh

 

I don't have any time but for brief impressions right now but.... Turin yes I'm town reading you. I think I was clear about my switch wrt reading Lily town. Anddd Turin I don't remember a post like that from me? But I do think that Nolder/Sooh have w/w equity, definitely.

[Eldrick4221]

Worrying about GF before there are any scum flips is a bad idea. No point thinking about GF until you're confident you can't trust cop views anymore. Thinking about it now just makes you paranoid and makes the cop useless.

[Eldrick4221]

Eldrick is confusing the crap outta me, tbh

 

I don't have any time but for brief impressions right now but.... Turin yes I'm town reading you. I think I was clear about my switch wrt reading Lily town. Anddd Turin I don't remember a post like that from me? But I do think that Nolder/Sooh have w/w equity, definitely.

It's not on purpose I swear. I'm strongly considering getting a mentor next game.

[Eldrick4221]

Was there a post by Alanna saying someone else looked worse if Nolder specifically flipped goon? I am on mobile and can't look it up. I thought I saw it. If someone could link it or quote it I would greatly appreciate it.

 

 

I've been playing for almost 6 years, I'm pretty sure I know the term WIFOM when I come across it.

 

Things are just as verifiable asking other players but you don't seem concerned with knowing if I'm telling the truth or not, you seem more concerned with discrediting me.

 

Do not lynch Zander

Do lynch Nolder

 

When Nolder flips scum, will you trust me then?

 

This is the only post of hers I can find that she even references his flip. Are you sure it was Laine?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Eldrick is confusing the crap outta me, tbh

 

I don't have any time but for brief impressions right now but.... Turin yes I'm town reading you. I think I was clear about my switch wrt reading Lily town. Anddd Turin I don't remember a post like that from me? But I do think that Nolder/Sooh have w/w equity, definitely.

It's not on purpose I swear. I'm strongly considering getting a mentor next game.

 

What's confusing you? Any questions I can answer?

[alannalynn]

Nolder has been caught as scum at least 3 times in games where he either plays dumb about clearly stated game rules or misunderstanding and feeling confused about dumb crap. That's a fact.

 

Everyone can feel free to ignore that of course. But Nolder has done nothing to appease my initial suspicion and has flat out refused to give reads on most of the players. That's suspicious in general...but also specifically for him because he is bad at providing read lists that don't lead back to his scummates.

 

He is by far the best lynch today and for a D1 suspicion? That ain't half bad imo.

^YES

[alannalynn]

Im waiting for them to open my school right now...

 

 Eldrick, You just seem to be all over the place moreso than usual. First you had that post with the quotes between me and Zander about thane but then you realized that that wasn't even my quote so I'm still not sure what you were getting at. That's leaving me a little confused. In addition you had a comment that you don't pay attention to the vote counts? Thats also leaving me a little confused. That makes absolutely no sense to me, how can you be a villager and literally not care about what's going on in your village?

 

Ftr, Calder claimed mafia last game before he became recruiter. Lol

[alannalynn]

 

Eldrick is confusing the crap outta me, tbh

 

I don't have any time but for brief impressions right now but.... Turin yes I'm town reading you. I think I was clear about my switch wrt reading Lily town. Anddd Turin I don't remember a post like that from me? But I do think that Nolder/Sooh have w/w equity, definitely.

It's not on purpose I swear. I'm strongly considering getting a mentor next game.

I think you really just need to filter your thoughts a bit more, if anything

[alannalynn]

Alanna, your reply post seems to be treating me as solid town. Is that your current read? Also, your last line asking what I will do WHEN you, Z and Thane flip town, how can you KNOW that will happen? I certainly don't (nor do I believe it will happen). But to answer your actual question, I will continue to take into account all information itt. I expect I will be fighting my own lynch tho if I push 3 town lynches tbh.

Turin, yes I'm town reading you. As for all three of us flipping town, I know that I will and I'm very confident that Zander will. As for Thane Im somewhat confident there as well.

[BFG]

ISOing using mobile is something I am never doing again

 

 

 

 

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

 

Talk to me about Sooh.  Im currently voting her,  The reasoning is pretty obv imo.  Can you also touch on how you feel irt my arguments against her.

 

Dont just start voting random please it sketches me out.

LOL who was it who complained about me not voting? It was probably Nolder. But I think I can put him lower on my list due to that FEELING when he's mafia. It's just there. And Thane brought it up a page or so back and it reminded me of it so I switched over. I actually would like to hear from NYN irt Nolder, since she saw the same things I saw in Rustlemania, I wanna know if she's feeling the same thing here. What are YOUR thoughts on Nolder, in summary?

 

As for Soohhhh at lot of my pings were her pushes on you which I didn't think were legitimate at all, as well as her TOAN and a few other things but let me go back and check what you've said recently. I'm a little wary to push a lynch on Sooh today because she's sick and I wouldn't want to push a potential mislynch through due to change in behavior from sickness =/

Actually I wasn't complaining about you not voting...I was bothered by what seemed like a push onto someone with no vote so early in the game.

My reasoning was if you've found something "bad" to say about someone so early why not vote them? I thought it was weird.

 

And here we go with Rustlemania again. >__>

 

I'm getting the admins of that site to delete the damn thread I never want to hear about it again lol.

  

 

 

Kind of a weird switch by Lily IMHO, willing to pursue.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Lily[/v]

 

 

I'm giving Zander the benefit of the doubt, since he said it was a joke, but not ruling him as scum out yet. What's weird about that?

It's the timing and also I don't agree with your vote.

 

Your vote on Alanna came right after Zander's but with enough time between to make me think it wasn't just a coincidence or fluke.

I also don't agree that Alanna seems to be pushing a scummate's case...or any case really she just said Eldrick seemed awkward.

If she had voted maybe I'd agree but she didn't.

 

To me it looks way more likely that you and Zander would be scummate's who distanced and then jumped on the same person than it does that Alanna and Sooh are scummates.

Nolder can you explain why when you voted Laine you said it was because she was pushing someone without voting, but when you voted Lily it was partly because you disagreed with her and didn't think Laine was pushing a case?

 

 

Can you also explain your thoughts on Lily when you unvoted? You accepted the teammate confusion, what did you think about Lilys response to your point about Laine pushing a case?