[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

[Sooh]

Sorry that's everything from EOD1 to here. Not everything in the thread.

You've sussed Hallia and said something about Shad being scummy (IIRC, I was in the middle of my Shad ISO when I read these posts). 

 

Why are you suspicious of Shad, and do you have any leans on anyone else, town or scum?

[csarmi]

BFG's self-assessment about leadership is correct.

[BFG]

Giiiirls dont clear someone based on D0. Pretty sure everyone was town then.

I'm trying to reform reads excluding that, but /shrug

[Nolder]

 

Sorry that's everything from EOD1 to here. Not everything in the thread.

You've sussed Hallia and said something about Shad being scummy (IIRC, I was in the middle of my Shad ISO when I read these posts). 

 

Why are you suspicious of Shad, and do you have any leans on anyone else, town or scum?

 

I detailed what bothered me about Shad not too long ago.

 

Leans? Not much.

Monstr is playing how I recall him playing a long time ago but I don't remember if he was town or not that game lol.

I think he was town though so I guess I'd lean town on him based on a shaky meta read from like a single game a year ago or something.

Kind of bothered Lenlo said he shot me and I didn't die but who knows with that.

After Looking at my train Calder's vote seemed off so I'd like to follow up on that at some point.

 

that's about it I think.

[BFG]

Anyway out again for now

[Sooh]

 

 

Sorry that's everything from EOD1 to here. Not everything in the thread.

You've sussed Hallia and said something about Shad being scummy (IIRC, I was in the middle of my Shad ISO when I read these posts). 

 

Why are you suspicious of Shad, and do you have any leans on anyone else, town or scum?

 

I detailed what bothered me about Shad not too long ago.

 

Leans? Not much.

Monstr is playing how I recall him playing a long time ago but I don't remember if he was town or not that game lol.

I think he was town though so I guess I'd lean town on him based on a shaky meta read from like a single game a year ago or something.

Kind of bothered Lenlo said he shot me and I didn't die but who knows with that.

After Looking at my train Calder's vote seemed off so I'd like to follow up on that at some point.

 

that's about it I think.

 

Ok I'll go look at your thoughts about Shad. 

 

Considering what you've read as well I'm not surprised you have no lean on me yet.

[BFG]

Nolder - weren't you both in Rustlemania together?

[BFG]

Both being you and Manbat, if it's not obvious

[Zander?]

ohhhh lots of new stuffs to read.  Shoud I?

 

lolololololol

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

Zander, why are you reading Lenlo as mafia at this point?

 

 

Why should I not be?

 

And Ive answered this more then once.

 

On Page 2; you go from saying that wolves will follow Lenlo, implying that Lenlo is town, to saying that Lenlo is mafia because he missed your colour code thing, later you accept his reason for missing it, but still have your vote on him, except now it's for unexplained reasons. You next say 'look at where your vote is' so are finding Lenlo scummy for reasons, but they remain unexplained for a while, now you're voting him because his reaction's 'off' and because he's not noting your meta play, etc, etc and the post where you explained this was immediately before mine, so your multiple explanations don't exist :/

 

I'm not a fan of this progression Tbh. A number of your posts feel calculated, the initial attempt to clear using colour code, the posts he's making about his own meta, particularly the one about OP's.

 

Meh I'm not going to be able to read Zander when he's on the defence like this.

 

Lenlo's position on you is equally odd, but I'm more inclined to lean town at the moment.

 

 

 

Why is Len's position equally odd?

 

I keep feeling like you are quietly pushing at people and seeing what sticks atp.  I could be reading it wrong at this point.

 

Because of his certainty. Some of his meta points were weak, but I believed Lenlo could believe them, and his continuing to look elsewhere looked good

 

 

 

Where was he looking elsewhere then?  Please provide quotes.

[Zander?]

 

OK I GOTTA BAIL TO DO STUFFS FOR A BIT

 

I WILL CONTINUE MY ISO OF BFG LATER!!!!

I think this is going to get tedious pretty quickly TBH.

 

 

Quite possibly!!!!!

 

lololololololololol

[Nolder]

Nolder - weren't you both in Rustlemania together?

Possibly.

I know I was in that game but that's not the game I was drawing my meta read from.

[Nolder]

I'm gonna try to sleep now.

Later.

[Zander?]

I can ask them for a definite answer, yeah. They didnt pm me about anything at the start of the day.

 

 

that would be good len

 

 

WHy are people asking if Len still has a bullet?  I dont get it.

[Sooh]

 

No kill with odd numbers. Whatever happened last night, we just earned a free lynch. :D

Small thing but I don't like that Shad said we earned a free lynch.

We don't know why there was no kill and either way mislynches are always bad.

Day 1 is usually viewed as a crapshoot because there is no prior info to go on but after that mislynches are never acceptable imo.

Just rubs me the wrong way it's not necessarily scummy although I could see a mafia saying this.

 

 

 

 

Csarmi claim or dont. No more messing around.

 

Same with Monstr.

you want a mass full claim?

 

you has the power man.. its on you

Is it ever a great idea to encourage this on D2?

 

I don't like that this is a question. It leaves you wondering whether Shad is for or against it. You think it implies he's against it but you're just applying tone to text. There is no real tone here. Taken at face value he is looking for someone else to justify this instead of taking a stance himself.

 

It feels a little weak to me. Perhaps now that you're current you can go back and read D1 after you've gotten some sleep?

[Sooh]

 

I can ask them for a definite answer, yeah. They didnt pm me about anything at the start of the day.

 

 

that would be good len

 

 

WHy are people asking if Len still has a bullet?  I dont get it.

 

Because he says he wasn't notified about his shot's failure. 

[Zander?]

Eldrick, if I rub you do I get wishes?

 

 

This is a PG-13 forum, be good you!!!!!

 

 

lolololololololololol

[Zander?]

Ok I've read from EOD1 to current.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

It's hard to believe she's been allowed to get away with soft claiming multiple times without anyone forcing her to take a stance.

I could also lynch Shad.

 

 

is this the only reason youre sussing her?

 

Weird.

[Sooh]

*waits for Zander to be current*

[Zander?]

 

 

Ok I've read from EOD1 to current.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

It's hard to believe she's been allowed to get away with soft claiming multiple times without anyone forcing her to take a stance.

I could also lynch Shad.

Why Shad?

 

Is Hallia's soft claim the only reason you're voting her?

 

Didn't like a couple things he said.

Felt kind of fake and like he was trying to direct the course of the conversation.

I realize that's like start of game tier reasoning but it's what you're gonna get from me for better or worse.

 

Yes pretty much.

She did it like 3 times that I know of and probably more that I don't.

 

 

But didnt you say you were caught up other then D0?

[Zander?]

I'm sorry, but width all the D1 cinten, for you to pick that out as what you're voting screams of copping out.

 

 

 

dont hate this response fwiw.

[Zander?]

I'm willing to reconsider if you hardclaim.

 

 

..................

[Zander?]

If there's one thing I'm not intimidated by this game, it's one vote from you.

 

 

lolololololololol

[Zander?]

 

Hallow's potential soft claim D1 was really gross, and unwarranted. But it doesn't mean she actually had a claim. And trying to dig it out of you feels remarkably close to fishing.

 

If she had a role, what's your endgame here, Nolder? Do you think she's scum because of the soft claim? If so, do you have any other reasons to back that up with?

If she has a role it should come out into the open for all to judge.

 

I believe soft claiming, hinting, breadcrumbing, etc is either always scummy or ineffective.

You have to assume while doing these things (as town) that the people you don't want to catch on will catch on which 99% of the time defeats the entire purpose in the first place.

And that other 1% is very rarely worth the risk in the first place.

 

As scum...well it's obvious why scum would want townies to think they have a role.

 

 

 

Do you really.....I disagree with that,

[Zander?]

Nolder I find it surprising that you are attacking hallia for softclaiming when I explicitly and loudly exclaimed multiple times that I didn't intend to claim at all

 

What's different about me?

 

 

 

 

I was vanilla town last night.

I do have something to fall back on at least should I start getting run up. Not worried.

Are you denying these are soft claims?

 

*raises hand*

 

i also soft claimed

why vote Hally over me?

 

 

 

Like, I'm not sure I buy the whole "No just make them claim immediately" thing when we have an unclaimed doctor most likely is what I'm trying to say

 

 

Lots of VOUCH here.