[Advanced] Nightmare Before Christmas - Town Wins!

[Lenlo]

So guys. We have an hour and a half or so. Do we wanna start wrapping this up cause atm Tab is in the lead, but has two very very close competing trains.

[Lenlo]

 

I quit WoW right before I started college. Decided it was the best thing to do.

Server and faction?

 

Oh who am I kidding, of course you were horde. We never played together but I still might have murdered you long long ago.

 

Drenden, Horde obviously.

[Shad_]

 

 

If Nolder is town, how do we turn him into a murder target instead of a lynch target?

 

Question is for everyone.

Assuming you mean a scum murder, if I don't trust a strong player I'll sometimes keep it to myself so scum don't get it in their heads that he/she can be mislynched.  But I don't really see this ever applying to Nolder at this point in the game.

 

But I think I know where you're going with this.

 

 

That's awesome.

 

I don't need sychophants as my fellow townies, but when they come up with similar ideas or can at least follow my strange brain, that makes me feel less like a total alien being.

 

(I was wrong.)

[Shad_]

So guys. We have an hour and a half or so. Do we wanna start wrapping this up cause atm Tab is in the lead, but has two very very close competing trains.

I'm about caught up and still debating where to drop my vote, but it's not going on Tab I don't think.

[Zander?]

Good evening people

[Zander?]

 

So guys. We have an hour and a half or so. Do we wanna start wrapping this up cause atm Tab is in the lead, but has two very very close competing trains.

I'm about caught up and still debating where to drop my vote, but it's not going on Tab I don't think.

 

 

 

Why not Tab and who are you thinking then?

[Andrej]

Help me lynch Snow instead Shad?

[Shad_]

 

 

Unvote Thane

 

Vote: Nolder

 

With Tabor as my alternate, since JS is still higher on my list than Tabor. JS for the consolidation to combine with Dice and make a lynch happen, but wouldn't be pleased with it unless he flipped scum unexpectedly.

 

 

"Why not NotBob" no one asked, disappointingly.

 

 

I thought you wanted to lynch Tab with me?  And poss try your plan with Nol?

 

I do, if my plan is agreed upon. That hasn't happened yet. I want it to happen, and I'll give time for it to happen, but you weren't even on board with it.

 

I wanted you to be.

 

:)

 

My vote moves a lot. I'm telling you where it's moving to next if things happen that I want to happen.

 

Wait what?

 

I could have sworn you said lynching Nolder would be op but your plan would be a second best option.

[Shad_]

Help me lynch Snow instead Shad?

Possibly. The main thing holding me back there is that you've been sketching me out a little.

[Shad_]

 

 

So guys. We have an hour and a half or so. Do we wanna start wrapping this up cause atm Tab is in the lead, but has two very very close competing trains.

I'm about caught up and still debating where to drop my vote, but it's not going on Tab I don't think.

 

 

 

Why not Tab and who are you thinking then?

 

Without going into detail (and I may or may not later, depending on time), I'm perfectly null on Tab and find Nolder and Snow scummy, so I will be tying the trains. I just haven't decided which yet.

[Zander?]

Like are neither of you at all bothered by the fact she's not even here defending herself, trying to prove she's town, making reads well basically doing anything?

 

 

Because that's starting to sketch me out.

[Shad_]

Let's start at the top (note each category is in no order) which brings us to AJ. He's seemed pretty open about everything so far. From when he's going to be around to whether he agrees or disagrees. If there's one point against him I'd say that he's being a bit too friendly to everyone and I'd like to see some teeth but other than that I feel good about him.

I don't hate this observation.

[dicetosser1]

snow isnt here either zander

[Zander?]

snow isnt here either zander

 

 

But at LEAST he posted he wouldnt be.  And still avoided the thread like Tab did when she started getting pressure.  Big difference imo.

[Zander?]

ebwop and not still avoiding

 

#theenglishishard

[Shad_]

Nomi...well I'll be honest here I might have played with him maybe once on another site (maybe?) but this may as well be my first time playing with him so I don't have any meta to look back on here. We're in the same boat in that regard. My thought is that he's being taken in by his own narrative about what I'd do in one game compared to what I'd do in another game etc etc. Truth is people act different from game to game not just role to role. For example I think my last 3 or 4 games prior to this I got mafia all in a row which is why I took a few months break from mafia I was just getting exhausted playing the same role/team over and over. I have no doubt that my last game as mafia wasn't as good a performance as the first game. Anyway I'm taking a long time to simply say I think he's overestimating his ability to understand the way I act from game to game and I think a lot of people do this with everyone to some degree. THAT SAID, I do like that he came out guns blasting and tried to make something happen. I put him leaning town because of that but he's not blue because I'm worried about my ability to read him in the first place. Unlike some people I'd rather hedge my bets on people I've never played with before than think I'm reading them right on D1 of our first game together. :P

I did out scum!Leelou once for conveniently forgetting that meta gleaned from modding is still meta. But the circumstances are somewhat different--you aren't pushing a case on him.

 

I really hope you answered this between where I'm at and current content, because Shad doesn't double-post a question for raisins:

 

 

 

Claiming it as inconsistency is not wrong nor is it distortion and you can think what you want about being scummy or not but usually when someone is right that's not scummy so I don't know where you're trying to go with that other than trying to call me scum as many times as you can and hope it sticks in the minds of others. It is inconsistent to be suspicious of Notbob for disagreeing with you on one person and not another. Simple fact. You sir are the one who's trying to distort the situation.

Nolder, if you're still here, what's your follow-through on red?

 

Bumping this because it got stuck at the bottom of the page.

 

[dicetosser1]

the fact that BOTH of them are doing the same thing is making me think they arnt scum together

[Zander?]

the fact that BOTH of them are doing the same thing is making me think they arnt scum together

 

No they dont necessarily have to be.  Tab is just more likely then John Snow.  John in British Mon disappeared for quite awhile and he was town.  He claimed vig and even after Pral kept it going in that game as well,  John does John stuff I guess.  My ability to read him isnt great but that fact alone makes me feel more solid about Tab then him atp.

[Shad_]

Thane...well there's not much to say. He hasn't said much and promised to be around more on D2. I put him leaning scum for one reason. I didn't like how when Nomi voted me the first time he jumped to my defense and called it wolfy (post #103). Just strikes me as extremely early to call out a bad vote. Or even a good vote. Any vote. I mean Nomi could have just been joke voting you know? I don't it just struck me as an attempt to buy early credit. Maybe I'm wrong about that but I didn't like it. Hopefully Thane can do some more on D2 to clear his name. Or not, I'd be willing to lynch him if anyone else is up for it.

Thane did explain himself though, and it was in line with his town mentality. I've seen town!Thane make obscure or dishonest statements as town in order to test people/get a discussion rolling many times.  You might think that the way he does it is, eh, a little weird, but it's normal town!Thane behavior.

[Shad_]

Andrej, on 16 Dec 2015 - 10:46 AM, said:

Actually let that question be to everyone whenever they see this post

 

Including details

 

Snow   disappeared   doesnt seem to me to be solving  his pop up to try and convince me was a complete failure  still waiting for reasons from him re me and zander. also he raised his hand about not being excited for SW

Tab   i gave her a chance to get thoughts out there after she questioned me. she didnt take it and then has disappeared. add zanders case to that

 

Shad  he has openly said on skype that he does not like Star Wars and in fact likes star TREK. He has been ex communicated from the Band and needs to be killed with fire.

 

Dice.  Pretty comfortable with this read.

[Andrej]

I was amused by that one earlier too.

[Andrej]

Like are neither of you at all bothered by the fact she's not even here defending herself, trying to prove she's town, making reads well basically doing anything?

 

 

Because that's starting to sketch me out.

No I agree with you and said as much earlier. She is probably getting lynched today but I still want others to weigh in first. We have like four people that aren't voting yet

 

If no one is going to lynch Snow then I will ensure its Tab

[Andrej]

 

Help me lynch Snow instead Shad?

Possibly. The main thing holding me back there is that you've been sketching me out a little.

The only thing to fear is fear itself.

[Shad_]

 

@ Nolder Your best bet is Tabor for an actual lynch, or Thane for a suspect we both agree on.

Let's see if we can get something going then.

 

[v]Thane[/v]

 

 

How committal is Nolder as town to voting his scummiest reads?

 

I'm having flashbacks to when he pushed and pushed for a Kivam mislynch in AoL and when it didn't happen was just like "ok fine I'll vote someone else".

[dicetosser1]

he does tend to do that iirc shad